need advice on first serious cycle

[Taurus50]

I'm going to start my first real cycle in a couple of weeks...here's what i have on hand

30 ml QV enth
20 ml QV prop

Any advice I can get is much appreciated

I want to gain as much size as I can
Stats
5'10''
190
been lifting hard for 3.5 years

I've been reading a lot of good stuff about eq...would it be too much to add some in with the enth and prop
Thanks guys

 

[Dooley]

Don't run those together. It'd be pointless.

Run your enanthate at 250-500mg's/wk for 10-12 weeks, and the prop you could run between week 12 and your clomid therapy. I don't know a lot about prop, so I can't suggest a daily dose for that time frame.

How many cycles have you run in the past? How old are you?

Don't bother with the eq if this is your first cycle, you'll gain just fine on test alone.

 

[sh4dowf4lcon]

A quick cycle suggestion with those. I believe your Enan is 250mg and the prop is 100mg. So you could try this:

• WK1-2 ENAN 750MG (375MG 2X PER WEEK)
• WK3-8 ENAN 500MG (250MG 2X PER WEEK)
• WK8-10 PROP 100MG EOD
• WK11 HCG 500IU ED FOR 6-9 DAYS
• WK12 CLOMID REGIMINE, AVEENA, ETC...
• HAVE NOLVA ON HAND IN CASE OF GYNO SYMPTOMS

 

[Taurus50]

age and past cycle

sorry about that...
I'm 23 years old
about 10% bf

my fist cycle was about a year ago, this is the first chance i have had to do another one since then

1st cycle
sustanon 250mg/week
dbol 30 mg/day
saw good gains on this

would it be good to add dbol or another AS in at the beginning of the cycle?

 

[twistedneck]

sh4dowf4lcon is right on. If you want to use Dbol for the first 3 weeks you don't have to do the frontload like sh4dowf4lcon said. Since that is a 12 week cycle HCG will surely be needed. Not sure about ED for a week vs. 2x/EW through the cycle, thoughts?

You better have arimidex and nolvadex if you are gyno prone, you'll need arimidex even if your not gyno prone w/ the dbols. You'll know that from your first cycle.

Dont forget: Clomid/Nolvadex/Adex recovery after that's a long cycle.

 

[magman1]

first serious cycle? brotha, anytime ANY aas are in ur body, thats pretty fuckin serious

 

[02gixxersix]

EQ would not be a bad idea but you could do very well on jsut the test. I would run it like one of these:

Cycle 1:

Week 1-10 750mgs of enanthate per week.
Weeks 1-4 and 11-12 prop at 100mg eod or 50mg ed.
PCT therapy starts the day after your last prop shot.

Cycle 2:

Week 1-12 EQ at 400mg per week.
week 1-12 enanthate at 500mg per week.
week 1-4 and 13-14 or weeks 1-3 and 13-15 prop at 100mg eod or 50mg ed.
Again PCT the day after your last prop shot.

 

[Taurus50]

by my first serious cycle i meant that i am going to take it more seriously and do all the things right this time...I have learned a lot about eating and training in the past few years

Thanks for the info guys,

Are there any other AAS combos that have worked well for ya'll?

 

[Deleted member 33117]

Taurus, my favorite stack is prop/tren/eq, but that may be more than you wish to undertake just yet.

 

[Taurus50]

prop/tren/eq

I've been reading a lot on here the past couple of weeks, and i see a lot of good things about tren...definitely looks like something i wanna try sometime...

Just for future reference, what would a good cycle of prop/tren/eq look like?

 

[02gixxersix]

12 weeks of prop/tren/EQ sounds like a good idea for my next cycle.

 

[Deleted member 33117]

Taurus, it depends on your experience. I'm currently on 100 mg of prop ed, 30 mg tren ed, and 200 mg eq once a week with 1.25 mg letro eod. This will start a flame fest, but I also stay on at least test year round.

 

[Taurus50]

more questions

posted by 02gixxersix:
Week 1-10 750mgs of enanthate per week.
Weeks 1-4 and 11-12 prop at 100mg eod or 50mg ed.
PCT therapy starts the day after your last prop shot.

what you guys think about this cycle?
should i run the prop at the beginning and end; just at the beginning or just at the end?

I know there is no way to know but in general what type of results should i expect from this type of cycle provided that i train as hard as i can and eat at least 1.5g of protein per lb of bw?

I'll take some pictures before, during and after and post em when i'm done with the cycle to see what ya'll think...

Any other comments are welcome

 

[Deleted member 33117]

You can frontload the prop for 2 weeks, but I wouldn't go with 4 at that high of a dose of enathate. You're doses are a bit on the high side for your cycling experience, but you should make some outstanding gains. I would use a little letro or a-dex with that much test, and have some nolvadex on hand as well.

 

[Taurus50]

HCG

Any suggestions on how and when to run HCG during/after my cycle?

 

[magman1]

stay away from the tren just now...i like 500mg test, and 400mg eq...this was my first cycle and worked well, i just wish i had something to kickstart it

 

[flex2win]

Run the test at 500mg/wk, maybe add some dbol at the front to move things along faster...no need to go crazy on your first cycle, keep it simple..and eat like a mofo

 

[R/Tman]

id say 600mg test enth for 10 weeks, then do another cycle with 400mg test enth and 400mg Eq

 

[Taurus50]

maybe

so here's what i'm thinking...from all the responses i've gotten

test enth 500 mg/wk 1-10
test prop 50 mg eod wk 1-3

would it be too much to do 100 mg eod of the prop wk 1-3?

but i'll still have a shit load of prop left on my hands...i know i can save it for next time but i want to get all i can out of this cycle since it's been so long since i have done one

should i do more prop at the end and if so what weeks and what dosage?

 

[R/Tman]

i just think you need to see what works best for you. since its been awhile for you, u will get good gains on just the enth. but the prop will help u see gains faster

 

[magman1]

Re: maybe

but i'll still have a shit load of prop left on my hands...i know i can save it for next time but i want to get all i can out of this cycle since it's been so long since i have done one

should i do more prop at the end and if so what weeks and what dosage?

nah bro...just send it to me, and il put it to use

 

[Taurus50]

haha...sounds like a great idea.

i'll figure out some way to use it in this cycle or the next
can't let good quality prop go to waste now can i...

 

[bobbie8]

I would stay away from tren for now I was taking 1/2 mg eod and had sides like gyno,insomnia,headaches did not like at all just stick with your test/eq/dbol