Need Advice ASAP

[Fragadelic]

I have a dilemma here and I need some advice quick. Last night when I got home from work, my wife and my son were sitting at the kitchen table - my son was finishing up his trigonometry project. My wife said that my son had been working on it for three hours straight and he was very proud - did a bunch of graphs using different color magic markers, etc. As I walked over to look at his nearly-completed project, imagine my horror when I saw the he had used 4 sheets of my papervar!

Now, I normally would come clean with my wife (she knows I use) and make my son do it over on regular graph paper but the pride I saw in his eyes was just so overwhelming - I know it would break his heart so I said nothing other than how proud I was of him.

The problem is this -- his math teacher is a pretty jacked guy and I know he works at this local hard-core gym so I am pretty sure he will know what the stuff is. I am afraid that my son won't get his project back. So, do I let my son turn in this project? Also, assuming he does turn it in and assuming he does get it back from the teacher (a long shot, I know), is it OK to take it even though it has magic marker all over it?

Thanks so much for the input!

 

[beastboy]

Is this a joke?

 

[WODIN]

I have a dilemma here and I need some advice quick. Last night when I got home from work, my wife and my son were sitting at the kitchen table - my son was finishing up his trigonometry project. My wife said that my son had been working on it for three hours straight and he was very proud - did a bunch of graphs using different color magic markers, etc. As I walked over to look at his nearly-completed project, imagine my horror when I saw the he had used 4 sheets of my papervar!

Now, I normally would come clean with my wife (she knows I use) and make my son do it over on regular graph paper but the pride I saw in his eyes was just so overwhelming - I know it would break his heart so I said nothing other than how proud I was of him.

The problem is this -- his math teacher is a pretty jacked guy and I know he works at this local hard-core gym so I am pretty sure he will know what the stuff is. I am afraid that my son won't get his project back. So, do I let my son turn in this project? Also, assuming he does turn it in and assuming he does get it back from the teacher (a long shot, I know), is it OK to take it even though it has magic marker all over it?

Thanks so much for the input!

Kinko's -- Color Copies. 2 sets. One to keep as the originals and one for you son to turn in. Tell him you wanted make a copy to keep at home since he did such a wonderful job.

 

[westsnoop]

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Kinko's -- Color Copies. 2 sets. One to keep as the originals and one for you son to turn in. Tell him you wanted make a copy to keep at home since he did such a wonderful job.

Nice!

 

[beastboy]

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Kinko's -- Color Copies. 2 sets. One to keep as the originals and one for you son to turn in. Tell him you wanted make a copy to keep at home since he did such a wonderful job.

LMAO.....my dad ate my homework.

 

[havoc]

Good advice Wodin!

 

[CipherLock]

This would be funny if I had any idea what papervar was, now, if you had said sunshine acid ROFL.

 

[tuc biscuit]

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Kinko's -- Color Copies. 2 sets. One to keep as the originals and one for you son to turn in. Tell him you wanted make a copy to keep at home since he did such a wonderful job.

Lol, good advice fatty. I remember my sister did her homework on one of my 24oz sirloins once............oh how we laughed.

 

[beastboy]

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Lol, good advice fatty. I remember my sister did her homework on one of my 24oz sirloins once............oh how we laughed.

I hate you and your modship.

hey....I want to play blackjack on the cruise.....how can you gurantee I win?

 

[ChefWide]

lying sack of shit. Not to mention you wrapped your son up in some crap post. Shame on you, you smelly person.

 

[tuc biscuit]

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I hate you and your modship.

hey....I want to play blackjack on the cruise.....how can you gurantee I win?

A good way to win is to have a look round the tanles, see a player who is having a hot streak and put your bet in the box behind his, that way he makes the descisions, but you get paid out whenever he wins. Otherwise there are some good posts in the gambling forum by doctor dillio, have a look at the, there are a few basic principles in there that will increase your chances. Just bet small, only bet what you can afford to lose and enjoy it, too many people I see agonising when they don't get the card they want.

I hate you too, if I lived in america we would have met up by now for a right good tear up (fight).

 

[OMGWTFBBQ]

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I hate you and your modship.

hey....I want to play blackjack on the cruise.....how can you gurantee I win?

If you have a very good memory and can do some basic math pretty fast, and you also have a decent bankroll - then I can tell you a way to walk away a winner at roulette - but it is rather a lot of work mentally.
Much easier with a computer, but I would imagine they aren't going to be too happy about a computer in there - even a palm pilot would be enough, and even that would probably piss them off (I know when I was on a cruise I took a video camera into the casino and they got pissed).

As for blackjack, learn to count cards and go for the table with the fewest decks in their shoe.
If they have a single deck, all the better (unless they shuffle it each time - if they do, then find a table with a lot of people at it and sit at the end so that you are the last to get dealt).
I assume you know that counting cards is much easier than actually tracking which cards have been played entirely, but instead just keeping a running count of your odds on getting a 10 or not (and then you can add complexity from there if you so desire).

 

[beastboy]

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If you have a very good memory and can do some basic math pretty fast, and you also have a decent bankroll - then I can tell you a way to walk away a winner at roulette - but it is rather a lot of work mentally.
Much easier with a computer, but I would imagine they aren't going to be too happy about a computer in there - even a palm pilot would be enough, and even that would probably piss them off (I know when I was on a cruise I took a video camera into the casino and they got pissed).

As for blackjack, learn to count cards and go for the table with the fewest decks in their shoe.
If they have a single deck, all the better (unless they shuffle it each time - if they do, then find a table with a lot of people at it and sit at the end so that you are the last to get dealt).
I assume you know that counting cards is much easier than actually tracking which cards have been played entirely, but instead just keeping a running count of your odds on getting a 10 or not (and then you can add complexity from there if you so desire).

What is the trick to counting cards? Just count the 10's?

 

[tuc biscuit]

tell me the roulette system please omgwtfbbq

 

[OMGWTFBBQ]

tell me the roulette system please omgwtfbbq

In reference to card counting on blackjack - there I think Foxwoods will let you count cards and as long as you don't come back everyday (stick to weekends), and you keep your winnings low (uner $1000), then they seem to be okay with it.
There are some casinos in Vegas too that are off the main strip that need the business and will allow it too - and some even drop down to fewer decks in the shoe (I have heard that some go to a single deck, but have never seen it - I would assume that they change the rules if that is the case).
The dealer and the floor manager (if they are near your table) are going to be counting cards as well - so they will see it very quickly if you are changing your bets in accordance to your current odds (you want to raise the bet if your odds are good, and drop the bet to the table minimum if your odds are bad - this style of play is very easily detected and they will ask you to leave if it is winning).
There are several ways around this, but in the end they usually figure it out - the MIT boys that have made the press used a few ways around it - there are always new ways being thought up as long as the odds are there to be exploited in your favor.

As for roulette, roulette, when played on a computer is as random as the RNG (random number generator is). That is usually sufficiently random (unless you know the source of that rng's seed and you have access to the same rng - that was an issue back in the day for poker online - 95 or 96 - they were seeding with the time and you could then match your time to their server's time and then generate the same deck... anyway, I digress).

Roulette *should* technically be random in real life, but it isn't. A combination of gravity, friction, the way the ball is thrown, and the inertia of the wheel all lead to a scenario that is non-random.
That doesn't mean that it is 100% predictable, it just means that it is not a random chance for any given slot each time.

The largest issue is collecting data, which takes time. The exploits in the past have involved people buying the same wheel at home, playing out a large number of games, and then using that to determine their calculations at a casino (that is a tough way to do it since it could cost you a lot of money to get the wheel, and then the casino could change it).
But barring that, you can go into a casino (ideally one where you can either go back a lot over time... say you live in Vegas, or you are on a long vacation there) and mentally track the data as well - like I said, far easier on the computer.

Essentially, the roulette wheel should have the same odds each time that it is spun and a ball is dropped - the full wheel should be available as the probability space for any given move.
The same way that when you roll fair dice that you have a 1 in 6 chance for anything to happen and then the next roll is also a 1 in 6 chance.

But, with roulette, as it turns out due to the physical flaws in the system over that of a theoretical or computer system is that it actually does matter what the previous move was in terms of what the next move is.

I will go a bit into the math of it, but the general idea is that it (much like the stock market) will occasionally have multi-sigma events, but for the most part, it will stay within the standard deviation of previous moves.
What this means to you is that it is more than 50% likely to land on a spot near where it was the past move than it is to land elsewhere.

That means that you can bet more on those spots and bet none on the spots elsewhere.
This won't always win, but played enough over time, you will come out ahead more so than you would in a true random chance game.

If you are interested in the math, I can try to describe it on here, although it is much easier in person.

 

[tuc biscuit]

hmmmmm, I am not convinced, the human acts of spinning the ball and wheel are just that, human, therefore inconsistent. Experienced players like to play the french sections and neighbour bets (do they have these over there) and sometimes a section is 'hot', but everyone I see loses on roulette over time, I have delt to some pretty experienced players who play it seriously ($1000-2000 a spin) and they are no better equiped than a first timer imo. Also the diamonds on the inside of the wheel add to the randomness, the balls (sometimes made of ivory) jump around frequently after they seem to be nearly settled in a number. Imo roulette should be treated as a hobby that you find fun, because if you play frequently you will lose overall.

 

[tiger88]

paper var or son



hmmmm






bye bye kid see ya time to meet the foster family?


dont u hide that shit??


i live alone and my shit is like impossible to find

 

[OMGWTFBBQ]

It isn't my idea - it is a known issue with them. I agree that it seems like the inconsistencies of human variables added to the motion should make it more random - but that is linear thinking applied to a non-linear problem.
Our brains are designed to process things in a non-linear manner underneath it all, but we rationalize things generally in a linear fashion when we examine problems - it is an odd feature of human nature.
As a result, at first glance we very frequently do silly things in math.

In order to make use of this, you need a sufficient bankroll because you are going to go up and down, but over time you will make money.

You calculate your probability on the move (although that is slightly different in roulette) and then bet "(2P-1)*C" where P is the probability that you will win on that move and C is your current bankroll.
If it is truly random, you wouldn't bet, if you had a 51% chance of winning and had a $5K bankroll, you would bet $100.

If people follow the rules but then don't correctly bet, then you can lose too much (or conversely win too little) on any given move and you are therefore not following the system.

Generally, I don't think I could do it in my head, but on the computer you could track it.

As for other systems, I don't pay attention to them. I'm a math/stats/probability guy - I don't care for gambling.
The difference between risk and uncertainty can lose you a lot of money.

hmmmmm, I am not convinced, the human acts of spinning the ball and wheel are just that, human, therefore inconsistent. Experienced players like to play the french sections and neighbour bets (do they have these over there) and sometimes a section is 'hot', but everyone I see loses on roulette over time, I have delt to some pretty experienced players who play it seriously ($1000-2000 a spin) and they are no better equiped than a first timer imo. Also the diamonds on the inside of the wheel add to the randomness, the balls (sometimes made of ivory) jump around frequently after they seem to be nearly settled in a number. Imo roulette should be treated as a hobby that you find fun, because if you play frequently you will lose overall.