Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below
napsgear
genezapharmateuticals
domestic-supply
puritysourcelabs
UGL OZ
UGFREAK
napsgeargenezapharmateuticals domestic-supplypuritysourcelabsUGL OZUGFREAK

need advice again....

flexygrl

New member
no flaming pahleese!

Okay, so for those who read the thread about the guy who lost his friend, it's about him.


Before the whole friend incident I was starting to have some trouble with him. Mainly him not calling when he said he would. He would always call but sometimes hours after he said he was going to. Always had an excuse, fell asleep, go caught up....

The night before the whole friend incident we went out. I was angry because that day he had done it yet again, not called when he said he was going too. I explained to him that it's not a control thing. That it actually makes me feel bad and that I don't feel important enough to be remembered. He said that this was not the case. That he liked me a lot but that sometimes he just gets lazy. We went out that night and had a great, romantic dinner and all was well after. He was a perfect gentleman, opened the door, paid, did and said all the right things.

Then the friend incident. I was there for him as much as I could be. The night he came over when he got upset, he said that the worse thing that could happen to him now is if he loses me. We talked and seemed to be on the same page about everything, how much we like each other, how we see ourselves together for a long time...

Well, it's tuesday. Yesterday was the worst with the no calling thing. I called him on my way home. He said he wanted to go out and that he'd call when he got home. Well 7:30 rolled around and nothing. I was pissed. I was waiting on him for an hour. So, I called and was definetely annoyed and we had our first tiff. His excuse, same as usual, he came home and got caught up with his family, etc.


So, I feel bad for being a bitch on wheels about this. But i explained it again to him on Saturday. He knows what I went through with my ex. I told him that i was going to have some trust issue's that i'm working out on my own. But that in order for me to start trusting him, he has to do what he says he's going to do. He said he understod, yet did it again the very next day.

As I write this, I'm realizing I'm an idiot. Boy, this sounds horrible. I know the obvious thing to do here is just let him go, but i really like him. He's great. His family is great.

He took me to his office's holiday party on saturday and introduced me to the whole world. Obviously he's proud of me, so that's not it. He did introduce me as "his friend". But we've only been dating for 3 weeks today and didn't have the "talk" yet.

So...with the whole "he's not into you" movement, I feel that he's probably really just not into me. He may like me physically but maybe he's not ready to settle down. He says he is and when there are any talks of the future HE brings them up, not me...

Oh, and he's always there when I call. Picks up right away or if he misses me always calls back within 5 minutes.

So guys, what do I do? Let it go? Move on?
 
Flexy, you seem like a sweet girl. He probably likes you but you are harrassing him too much about not calling. Maybe if you backed off him a bit, it would help. People do get caught up doing things. I thin youre pressing the issue about phone calls too much. The guy just lost his best friend. Youre driving him away. (my .02)
 
Did you do the Steak and Blowjob thing? huh?
 
Smurfy said:
Flexy, you seem like a sweet girl. He probably likes you but you are harrassing him too much about not calling. Maybe if you backed off him a bit, it would help. People do get caught up doing things. I thin youre pressing the issue about phone calls too much. The guy just lost his best friend. Youre driving him away. (my .02)


No, I totally understand. But this was happening BEFORE the friend thing. I know you are right, it just makes my blood boil!!!! To me it's a respect thing. I don't ask for much at all.
 
WELL WELL WELL

MY FLAT MATE HAS BEEN GOING TO THROUGH THIS AS WELL
HERE IS WHAT I TOLD HIM

When a guy is really into you, he does not mind making a fool of himself and calling 6 to 7 times a day, wanting to hear your voice, trying to book time ahead to spend with you,

The fact that he does not call when he is supposed too, tell's me that he has no regards for your time, U ARE NOT important enough to him, NEVER EVER GO by what a man says, always look to see what he does, after all Actions speaks louder than words,

When a man is late and his really into you, he brings your flowers, also he calls to let you know he is running late,

Now there are two things you can do, ONE - U CAN STAY AND PUT UP WITH IT OR TWO- U CAN BE THE Girl U would be PROUD of, and walk away, from this, after all SELF respect and self love is important

ONE THING I HAVE LEARNT IS WE TEACH PEOPLE HOW TO TREAT US
and by u putting up with it, shows him and tells him, he can get away with it, after all what will u do complain and that is about it

WELL NOT ANY MORE
 
Meantime1 said:
WELL WELL WELL

MY FLAT MATE HAS BEEN GOING TO THROUGH THIS AS WELL
HERE IS WHAT I TOLD HIM

When a guy is really into you, he does not mind making a fool of himself and calling 6 to 7 times a day, wanting to hear your voice, trying to book time ahead to spend with you,

The fact that he does not call when he is supposed too, tell's me that he has no regards for your time, U ARE NOT important enough to him, NEVER EVER GO by what a man says, always look to see what he does, after all Actions speaks louder than words,

When a man is late and his really into you, he brings your flowers, also he calls to let you know he is running late,

Now there are two things you can do, ONE - U CAN STAY AND PUT UP WITH IT OR TWO- U CAN BE THE Girl U would be PROUD of, and walk away, from this, after all SELF respect and self love is important

ONE THING I HAVE LEARNT IS WE TEACH PEOPLE HOW TO TREAT US
and by u putting up with it, shows him and tells him, he can get away with it, after all what will u do complain and that is about it

WELL NOT ANY MORE


That's what I thought too. Thanks. It's sad though. But you are right. Oh well. You really hope that if you are a good person someone wonderful will come into your life. This is not true, for me anyway.

Thanks though. :(
 
I hate calling people, why not just talk to him in person, isnt that enaugh?

My ex complained about that a lot, it was really annoying I thought so I slowly started to hate her and then ended up dumping her.

If anything just give him a call, sometimes we get lazy.
 
Negative thinking..

After 3 weeks you are way to caught up.

Guys don't like to be suffocated. Espcially that early.
 
MasterBates said:
I hate calling people, why not just talk to him in person, isnt that enaugh?

My ex complained about that a lot, it was really annoying I thought so I slowly started to hate her and then ended up dumping her.

If anything just give him a call, sometimes we get lazy.


LOL. I don't mean talking on the phone to talk. I HATE that too. I never was a phone person. Could care less.

I'm so confused. Judge him on his actions....

Well, i've met practically his whole family. Yesterday I was in his house sitting in his parents living room talking with his mom, dad and him. He's always affectionate.

At his holiday party he was very concerned that i was having fun and hugged and kissed me all night.

when he was late picking me up he did call.

I am confused. He's perfect. Does everything right, except for the phone thing. Oh and on Saturday when he came to pick me up at my parents he came in and sat down with my dad and sister while I was getting ready. I don't even live there anymore, lol. Was just getting ready there.
 
LISTEN TO ME SWEET AND LISTEN GOOD
U WILL FIND YOUR PRINCE, BUT until then, that does not mean, you should have a trail of broken hearts, instead learn to love yourself and be happy on your own, look to the future with a positive out look, telling yourself, I WILL HAVE A FANTASTIC YR, infact i know it, and believe u me you will,
Remember this the future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams,
Look at me, i too I'm a very nice person, BUT JUST BECAUSE I AM NICE, DOES NOT MAKE ME A PUSH OVER, and does not mean i have no self worth,

So be strong and tell him your needs and if he cant step up to the plate as a man, KICK HIM TO THE CURVE
 
I hate when people say someone is perfect.. especially when you have just given us quite a few reasons to say otherwise.

I think you might be too immutare for a relationship.

Fix your trust issues and thne try again
 
to clarify, i'm not talking about talking to bullshit. I'm talking about him saying we are going out and NOT calling.


Either way this is bad. Either I'm suffocating him or he's an asshole. Maybe I will back off and see if things change?
 
I'm not sure how old you are, but regardless, you truly need to sort through any trust issues you have before pursuing any further relationships.

You are taking baggage from past relationships and moving it into new ones.. this is not healthy.

flexygrl said:
to clarify, i'm not talking about talking to bullshit. I'm talking about him saying we are going out and NOT calling.


Either way this is bad. Either I'm suffocating him or he's an asshole. Maybe I will back off and see if things change?
 
CanadianCutie said:
I hate when people say someone is perfect.. especially when you have just given us quite a few reasons to say otherwise.

I think you might be too immutare for a relationship.

Fix your trust issues and thne try again

LOl. I'm 26 and already have been married and divorced. I'm mature enought to see trouble ahead. I communicated my needs to him. I think that's very mature.

But you are probably right about the not ready to be in a relationship. I was alone for over 9 months. Dated some people here and there but nothing serious. I just said this to my friend too. I thought i was ready, but i guess I'm not.
 
CanadianCutie said:
I hate when people say someone is perfect.. especially when you have just given us quite a few reasons to say otherwise.

I think you might be too immutare for a relationship.

Fix your trust issues and thne try again

I'm perfect
 
flexygrl said:
to clarify, i'm not talking about talking to bullshit. I'm talking about him saying we are going out and NOT calling.


Either way this is bad. Either I'm suffocating him or he's an asshole. Maybe I will back off and see if things change?


That is the best way, when he calls dont answer it, let your voicemail get it
when he leaves a message for u to call him back, DONT

and dont worry he will call again and when u do answer the first thing, he would like to know is where have u been, u can say oh u have just been busy, NEVER TELL HIM WHAT U HAVE BEEN DOING, let him wonder, it makes a man want u more when u have a bit of mystery, trust me, we love the HUNT, now let him work for it, make him work hard to get to spend time with u, when he asks u lets meet up, telling him, in your very nice voice, oh i am sorry but i have made other plans, maybe another night, even if u have made no plans at all, he does not know that, believe you me the more back away from him the more he will move closer towards u

I KNOW BECAUSE IT WORKS
 
Sadly.. this is true.. although i think in this case she should just clear the slat and start over.. damage is done

Meantime1 said:
That is the best way, when he calls dont answer it, let your voicemail get it
when he leaves a message for u to call him back, DONT

and dont worry he will call again and when u do answer the first thing, he would like to know is where have u been, u can say oh u have just been busy, NEVER TELL HIM WHAT U HAVE BEEN DOING, let him wonder, it makes a man want u more when u have a bit of mystery, trust me, we love the HUNT, now let him work for it, make him work hard to get to spend time with u, when he asks u lets meet up, telling him, in your very nice voice, oh i am sorry but i have made other plans, maybe another night, even if u have made no plans at all, he does not know that, believe you me the more back away from him the more he will move closer towards u

I KNOW BECAUSE IT WORKS
 
Meantime1 said:
That is the best way, when he calls dont answer it, let your voicemail get it
when he leaves a message for u to call him back, DONT

and dont worry he will call again and when u do answer the first thing, he would like to know is where have u been, u can say oh u have just been busy, NEVER TELL HIM WHAT U HAVE BEEN DOING, let him wonder, it makes a man want u more when u have a bit of mystery, trust me, we love the HUNT, now let him work for it, make him work hard to get to spend time with u, when he asks u lets meet up, telling him, in your very nice voice, oh i am sorry but i have made other plans, maybe another night, even if u have made no plans at all, he does not know that, believe you me the more back away from him the more he will move closer towards u

I KNOW BECAUSE IT WORKS
I would presonally never condone or suggest someone PLAY GAMES. Why lie? That does no good for the relationship.
 
CanadianCutie said:
Sadly.. this is true.. although i think in this case she should just clear the slat and start over.. damage is done


Thanks CanadianCutie

I should be called DR LOVE LOL
Anyway how u doing today babygirl
 
Games are wrong, but it I think it's also wrong for someone to make themselves too available.. especially in the beginning..

Smurfy said:
I would presonally never condone or suggest someone PLAY GAMES. Why lie? That does no good for the relationship.
 
True and i agree with you
we all like to know the other has a life and he/she is not sitting at home by the phone for u
 
Meantime1 said:
LISTEN TO ME SWEET AND LISTEN GOOD
U WILL FIND YOUR PRINCE, BUT until then, that does not mean, you should have a trail of broken hearts, instead learn to love yourself and be happy on your own, look to the future with a positive out look, telling yourself, I WILL HAVE A FANTASTIC YR, infact i know it, and believe u me you will,
Remember this the future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams,
Look at me, i too I'm a very nice person, BUT JUST BECAUSE I AM NICE, DOES NOT MAKE ME A PUSH OVER, and does not mean i have no self worth,

So be strong and tell him your needs and if he cant step up to the plate as a man, KICK HIM TO THE CURVE

I like Meantime. But, I disagree.

Flexygelgirl ;) , You sound like a nice person. But, guys hate to be harrassed about making calls. If he called as much as meantime suggested (6-7 times a day) you would be posting how you are dropping a needy guy.

Yes, to be polite he should call when he says. (and when girls say call at a time they mean exactly that time) I know this will sound stupid, but he is doing what I would do if I liked girl. (and I would guess some of the older guys here) Unfortunately, you can't call a girl you like all the time and tell her you really like her. You have to hold back a little, bc woman like the chase. (Not call exactly on time, not spend too much time with her right away, etc.)


It sounds like he really likes you. So, just relax and enjoy it.

Also, take it easy on him since his friend just died. He probably isn't his self.

Good luck
 
Maybe youshould go out on a date with fyxgel, he would probobly call you every other minute
 
awittyusername said:
I like Meantime. But, I disagree.

Flexygelgirl ;) , You sound like a nice person. But, guys hate to be harrassed about making calls. If he called as much as meantime suggested (6-7 times a day) you would be posting how you are dropping a needy guy.

Yes, to be polite he should call when he says. (and when girls say call at a time they mean exactly that time) I know this will sound stupid, but he is doing what I would do if I liked girl. (and I would guess some of the older guys here) Unfortunately, you can't call a girl you like all the time and tell her you really like her. You have to hold back a little, bc woman like the chase. (Not call exactly on time, not spend too much time with her right away, etc.)


It sounds like he really likes you. So, just relax and enjoy it.

Also, take it easy on him since his friend just died. He probably isn't his self.

Good luck


Thanks. I don't know what to say to you all. Lots of good advice here. I really don't think I made myself too available. I just love being with him and I'm not a game player either. To me, if the games start then it's over already. I dont' have time or patience for games. Games are for children and I'm an adult. I still hold by the theory that when it's right it's right. Nothing you can say or do will change that. IF you are are meant to be together you will be together.

So...the one piece of advice I'm taking is that I'm going to back off, way off. No calls from me period. IF he wants me, he knows how to find me.

thanks to all. I really wish I had some brothers....:(
 
I think you have to start doing your own thing and stop thinking so much about his every move.. Its obviously not that important for him to call you when he says he will but you are waiting on the edge of your seat for the call.. When he doesn't, you get upset b/c you feel that he should since you're waiting there for him...

I guarantee you if you do one of two things you will know if the relationship is meant to be: A) when he says he'll call don't wait around and just do your own thing and see if he ever calls you back or B) just don't call him and let him call you... If he likes you then you should get a call when he doesn't hear from you b/c he will get worried why you haven't called him and if he doesn't call then you know it wasn't meant to be!!!

Theres really no reason to be hounding someone to call you and those sound like some piss poor excuses not to call... You start making excuses when you don't want to talk to someone, not b/c you don't have time...
 
flexy, i understand your frustration and i'm sure its justified, but like a few others said, don't bother him about it. he's not doing it on purpose and since i know how busy and caught up i can get, i know that he could be head over heels for you but still not call when he says he will.
relax girl, he likes you a lot. :rose:
 
CanadianCutie said:
Negative thinking..

After 3 weeks you are way to caught up.

Guys don't like to be suffocated. Espcially that early.

1. Yes, too caught up after 3 weeks. Relax. :)

2. Guys don't like to be suffocated. Forget early. Ever.

3. That whole "He's not into you shit, it breeds nothing but self-centered divorced cynical people."

4. People who love you make sacrifices for you, even if it breaks rules #5, 8 and 9 in that stupid book.

Your smart and cute I'm sure, they'll be falling at your feet. Trust me. I fell like 11 times. Well tripped at least.
 
flexygrl said:
I am confused. He's perfect. Does everything right, except for the phone thing.

hammer on a nail here darlin.. Its his flaw. He likes you.. you like him.. eh.. I do the same thing sometimes.. have tons on my mind and just flat out forget to pick up the phone and call... when they call me I thank them cause I lost track of time.. etc.

So don't rely on him to call, you know he slacks, from now on you tell him "I'll call You" It will save you from .. waiting... and waiting.. and getting frustrated.. and Save him from feeling like you are being petty with the phone call issues.

Has he ever stood you up, because of a missed call or being sidetracked?
 
Frisky said:
hammer on a nail here darlin.. Its his flaw. He likes you.. you like him.. eh.. I do the same thing sometimes.. have tons on my mind and just flat out forget to pick up the phone and call... when they call me I thank them cause I lost track of time.. etc.

So don't rely on him to call, you know he slacks, from now on you tell him "I'll call You" It will save you from .. waiting... and waiting.. and getting frustrated.. and Save him from feeling like you are being petty with the phone call issues.

Has he ever stood you up, because of a missed call or being sidetracked?


No!! Never! Infact on Saturday he was 10 minutes late or so picking me up. I didn't even notice. He called my phone twice, but I left it in the car. So when I saw his he was like, I called to tell you I was running late.

I'm just gonna chill. If it'll be it'll be. I'll keep you all posted. Honestly part of my behavior is because I'm scared to death of falling in love with someone again. Part of me sees trouble and wants to bail when it's not gonna hurt so much. My baggage....I never knew I was THIS messed up.
 
I hear ya flexy, I know the feeling, but it is my friends who do this to me sometimes, just leave you sat around waiting for a call.

I will say though that when it comes to women sometimes blokes feel nervous about calling, like the phone call has to go well or you will start to not like them.

Keep in there, he is lucky.
 
flexygrl said:
I'm just gonna chill. If it'll be it'll be. I'll keep you all posted. Honestly part of my behavior is because I'm scared to death of falling in love with someone again. Part of me sees trouble and wants to bail when it's not gonna hurt so much. My baggage....I never knew I was THIS messed up.

Good deal... Just relax..

I understand the 'scared to death' part.. I'm a bit guarded at times.. Getting hurt isn't fun, I've never been deeply hurt, but only cause I won't let myself hit rock bottom.. to much more to life than that.. roll with the punches.

YOU ARE NOT MESSED UP! You've been through alot with your X... You maybe a bit insecure, and that will take some working on, but time heals all wounds.

don't bail on him, he seems to like you ALOT... We all have to take chances in life, if you don't then you'll never know what should have.. could have or would have.

Good Luck darlin
 
I agree
Just be chilled and go with the flow, u seem like a sweet heart and dont worry, Big Brother is here to make sure, u will never fall ok,

Keep us informed
xxxx
Meantime
 
flexygrl said:
No!! Never! Infact on Saturday he was 10 minutes late or so picking me up. I didn't even notice. He called my phone twice, but I left it in the car. So when I saw his he was like, I called to tell you I was running late.

I'm just gonna chill. If it'll be it'll be. I'll keep you all posted. Honestly part of my behavior is because I'm scared to death of falling in love with someone again. Part of me sees trouble and wants to bail when it's not gonna hurt so much. My baggage....I never knew I was THIS messed up.

You are not messed up. Everyone feels this way when they meet someone they really like. But, just relax, take it slow, and have fun. It takes time to develope a relationship.

Remember, he is not his self now, because of his friends recent death. So, you definately want to take it slow. He will need your support.

Note: From a guys perspective. I have been in his positon before. I meet a girl I like, take her out, treat her like a lady, introduce her to friends & family, etc. I think I am doing everything she wants. But, there is always something little (in my eyes) that she obsesses about. (like not calling exactly on time or forgeting to introduce her to Aunt Sally after I introduced her to 50 others..means in her mind I don't love her.)

Oh well. I guess thats why Men are from Mars and Women are from Venis. ;)
 
Smurfy said:
I would presonally never condone or suggest someone PLAY GAMES. Why lie? That does no good for the relationship.

i agree. i think games like that are stupid. if you want to talk to him, answer the phone.
 
flexygrl said:
AWWWWW! I love you guys!


So, you guys were right. He called on his own. So I guess he wants to keep me around for a bit. :)

I saw him yesterday. I went over and hung out with his family again. His older brother came over. I met him once and he remembered my name. But, his father slipped and called me his ex girlfriends name in the middle of a conversation. I don't think anyone realized but me. Normally this would have annoyed me but my dad did the same exact thing to my sisters boyfriend when we were all out for dinner. LOL!
 
flexygrl said:
So, you guys were right. He called on his own. So I guess he wants to keep me around for a bit. :)

I saw him yesterday. I went over and hung out with his family again. His older brother came over. I met him once and he remembered my name. But, his father slipped and called me his ex girlfriends name in the middle of a conversation. I don't think anyone realized but me. Normally this would have annoyed me but my dad did the same exact thing to my sisters boyfriend when we were all out for dinner. LOL!


:) thats great!
btw, i'm not far from you.
 
Sugarplum said:
:) thats great!
btw, i'm not far from you.


I know...Kroliczeck(or whatever her name is) told me. We should get together one day. What gym do you train at? I just joined NYSC in Garden City. So now I have my regular gym for night and NYSC for the morning or lunch!
 
Flexy.

Big Picture.

Too many promising relationships are lost because people get too caught up in smaller stuff in the beginning.

Back away. Do other stuff. See other people. IM with me. Let some time pass. See how you feel in a month. You know what I've been through...take my word for it.
 
MattTheSkywalker said:
Flexy.

Big Picture.

Too many promising relationships are lost because people get too caught up in smaller stuff in the beginning.

Back away. Do other stuff. See other people. IM with me. Let some time pass. See how you feel in a month. You know what I've been through...take my word for it.


Hey Matty,

I im'd you the other day. Wait, I'll sign on now. You have to get me caught up with that chick!!
 
tuc biscuit said:
all I know is 2 christmases have been and gone and I don't have an avatar of you

LMAO! I totally didn't forget! You will get it, I promise. I gained 40 pounds last year after the whole thing with my ex. Finally it all came off. So now I'm at the rebuilding stage AGAIN! Soon! Maybe you'll get an early Christmas gift, this summer!
 
Top Bottom