Narrowed down to 2 cycles...

[KayKo]

Hey guys I have narrowed my mass cycle down to 2 possibilities.

First one would be 10 weeks of 750mgs of test e, and the first week would be frontload of 1.5 grams.

The secong cycle I have been possibly thinking about is 500mgs test e with 400 mgs of EQ for 10 weeks. 40 mgs dbol for weeks 1-4. If I ran this one, would anyone suggest upping the EQ from 400 to 600?

All PCT items are on hand as well as meds for any sides.

Which one do you think would yield better gains if diet is in check? Thanks!

 

[Ramcononer]

personally to me thats alot of gear. How many cycles under your belt and what are your goals? Ive only used smaller doses and had nice results.

 

[Mac173]

I'd go with the second one with 600eq. But if you run eq it should be for 12-16wks.

 

[solidspine]

Ditto

Go with the second,

really it boils down to how much protein and calories (Clean )

You eat when your on a cycle like that.

Good luck

 

[KayKo]

I've done 6 cycles in the past 3 years, with the last one being a frontload of 1g test e and then 500 mgs PW for 8 weeks.

Goals for this cycle is to gain mass and I've heard EQ does help with eating more.

Thanks for the advice!

 

[gettnlarge01]

2nd cycle looks good!!











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[KayKo]

Hey all would the dbol be required for the eq/test cycle or is not needed? The last/only time I took dbol I got pretty sick.

 

[genman]

You don't front load with test e. The second cycle is sound, bump EQ to 600.

 

[KayKo]

Yeah gonna go with 2nd cycle, but is the dbol needed?

 

[KayKo]

Bump for info please.

 

[genman]

Dbol would be good while waiting for the test (3-5 wk) and eq (even longer) to kick in. It really raises my blood pressure, so I front load with prop.

 

[KayKo]

What about frontloading the test to a gram for week one but keeping the eq at 600?

Or are you saying not to frontload with the test e in your previous post?

 

[jagerbombme]

from what i've read the frontload doubled dose would work because it would brring the levels high fast, then you go down to the normal dose and coast. though i've never done this or heard of someone actually doing it. but would like to hear from someone who has. it is interesting and boils down to time and math.

 

[KayKo]

Well I've done a frontload of test before and then returned to normal dose the 2nd week, but I really didn't have anything solid to compare it to.

I'd much rather do that over taking dbol.

 

[MR. BMJ]

Yeah, this isn't even close.....I vote the 2nd as well.

BMJ

 

[KayKo]

Alright so gonna go with the 2nd one then. I'm still up in the air in regards to dbol. It's a great kickstart, but at the same time I wouldn't wanna risk becoming ill. If I didn't take any, would I just expect gains to be minimal during the first couple of weeks? Thanks again for everyones input!!

 

[MR. BMJ]

Can't really predict an outcome, but i'd give the dbol another shot. I've never gotten sick from it like you mention. I'd give it one more shot before counting it out. Since it clears quickly, you can stop it, and the negative effects should clear quickly as well.

BMJ

 

[KayKo]

Sounds good. Thanks bro.

 

[genman]

What about frontloading the test to a gram for week one but keeping the eq at 600?

Or are you saying not to frontload with the test e in your previous post?

Test e takes 3-5 weeks to feel (for me, anyway) regardless of the dose. Prop seems to kick in quicker, dbol even quicker (around 5 days). I just get insane headaches with dbol from elevated blood pressure. The pumps and strength gains alwmost would make it worth it if it didn't hurt my sleep. Once that happens, it snowballs. I need my sleep!