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My very first cycle

phatty123

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I am 20yrs old weighing between 155-160 around 5'7". I am thinking of trying my first cycle. Considering doing about sust and deca about 300mg per week of each for about 8 weeks. The thing i am concerned with is should i take something like primobolan towards the end then follow it with some clomid? I am also going to keep some clomid on hand in case symptons start to occur early.

Sound good? bad? ok?
 
First thing I would suggest is to take another year and try to educate yourself. If your worried about getting gyno, I would suggest nolva as it works a little better than clomid. I dont know why you would need primo, as it does nothing to help post cycle recovery. Stick around a little longer and get on a good diet.
 
phatty123 said:
I am 20yrs old weighing between 155-160 around 5'7". I am thinking of trying my first cycle. Considering doing about sust and deca about 300mg per week of each for about 8 weeks. The thing i am concerned with is should i take something like primobolan towards the end then follow it with some clomid? I am also going to keep some clomid on hand in case symptons start to occur early.

Sound good? bad? ok?

Personally i would run just the sust at 300mg for the 8 weeks- because deca's sides are more difficult to deal with than test's.
I personally like a 1st cycle that is as simple as possible.

Yes- you need clomid for post cycle- do a search if you need to know how to run it.

You need nolvadex on hand for gyno symptoms- it's a stronger estrogen blocker than clomid so it's better suited for this.
 
bro i have exactly the same stats as u and i think someone of ur height and weight could easily get upto 167ish pounds before he starts and i think u should.

i wouldnt juice just yet. and im not gonna start a cycle till i put on some weight.
 
I've been doing alot of research. To the point where i am confused because everybody has a diffrent opinion. The primo i thought you didn't need but i heard some people say you should some don't wanted to clear it up a bit. I am probably going to wait until i reach 165 or so with my new diet of eating non stop :).

I just want to find out for know if what im planning on doing sounds good. I have heard that you are better of stacking sust with deca for better results. Some people say just sust for first cycle some both. i think the recommened first cycle on the top 10 stacks at a few other sites says 200-450 sust and 250-500 deca.

Looking back again i think 300+300 is too much. Does 150 sust + 200 dec sound like a better plan for first time or stick to just sust. I read to much now i feel confused by all this. Ive been reading for about 6-8 months about this stuff and its getting more and more confusing. The one place i finally started to get good info was fitnessboard but they recently shutdown.
 
Since it will be your first cycle, you should respond well. Keep the dose low at around 300 mg/w of each. No reason to jump it high yet as your receptors will be like a nursing baby. Just be patient and the knowledge will come. Do searches and record the information for later. You do not want to leap into this blindly as it will affect everyone.
 
phatty....I would highly recommend reading more. As you stated, you've researched a lot, but there is more out there. I am by no means an expert (going to start my first cycle in 2 weeks) and my biggest concern right now is my lack of education. It seems that every night I learn something that I damn glad I found out prior to cycle.

Also, you may want to consider a test only cycle. From what I have heard, and what has been suggested to me, starting off low with 1 compound is a good way to go for beginners: you'll gain well and learn about your body's reaction to gear. you can go with multiple compounds later on. keep it simple, keep it low dosage, keep it smart.

EN
 
bro just keep ur dosage as low as u can for as long as u can. firstly it will be cheaper, ur prob less likely to do damage to urself and frankly u'll make sick gains anyway. the kinda people who weigh 150lbs and do 500mg/wk test as a beginner cycle are the ones who have trouble making gains off a gram just a few years later.
 
Young man, you look confused. PRimobolan at end ? Why ? Are you sure you did something called a SEARCH ?

Anyway, it's your first cycle and you're 20. At least wait another year and then do something like sust 250 mg with deca 200 mg and eat a shitload of proteins.
 
do something like sust 250 mg with deca 200 mg and eat a shitload of proteins.


That was exactly what my first idea was but people kept telling me diffrent. Primobolan at the end sounded wierd to me too but was recommended by a few people seemed wierd to me so i asked here and now i have confirmed that its not a good thing to do.
 
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