xrsist said:
pumping yourself full of test for 4 weeks then nothing for 4 weeks then repeat... your gona crash/feel like shit, loose most if not all of your gains during your 4 weeks off and most likley gona experience some sides... doesnt sound appealing to me.
8 weeks testosterone propionate and Anavar - oxandrolone - or Winstrol - stanozolol for the last 6 weeks, with an aromatase inhibitor on hand then followed by a proper p c t of h c g and clomid, little to nil sides, nice gains and you get to keep them..
I got this off another board by a moderator based on Author L Rea's book in the section dealing with burst cycles.
Many guys are having with it so I'm considering to give it a try since I don't like anything longer than 6 weeks, I might just try 6 week propionate cycles at 100mg eod with HGH.
"For quite some time, the concept of short cycles has been bouncing around in my mind, but since anabolic steroids seem to be a thing of the past for me I neglected writing it down. However, after reviewing the amazing gains made by jminis on his short cycle according to ALR's protocol, I decided I would write some rough ideas for discussion. Initially, one needs to recognize that these are just my thoughts on the matter and not an in depth scientific study.
First, consider the composition of a typical cycle. The conventional cycles tend to last 8-12 weeks, but the range can reach 24+ weeks. Now examine two typical cycles, 8 weeks and 12 weeks for practical purposes. With each cycle, one ideally follows the concept of equal time on/off. However, the equal time on.off doctrine is not always followed. Particularly, when cycles tend to linger for longer periods, the time off tends to decrease. For instance, an 18 week cycle may be followed by 12 weeks off, rightly or wrongly is not significant.
Average cycles consist of a variety of anabolic steroids from test enan to nandrolone decanoate to trenbolone acetate to test propionate etc. However, at this point I am ignoring specific drugs/cycle construction and assuming that one has an understanding of anabolic androgenic steroids(like I said, rough ideas). Instead, I will focus on time on/off. First, consider the 8week cycle. 8 weeks on is followed by 8 weeks off for a total of 16 weeks to complete a “cycle life�. During this period, I will assume a net gain of 15lbs. Following the same 8week on/off “cycle life� one could complete 3 cycles yearly. If we generously assume, equivalent gains for each period, then one nets 45 lbs yearly. Over the course of a year, one is using AAS for 24 weeks. Moving on to the 12 week cycle following the same approach, but rather than applying 12on/off, I will use 12 on / 10 off. Realistically, I think individuals are more likely to follow this for a few reasons which I assume you can decipher. So, 12 weeks on is followed by 10 weeks off for a total of 22 weeks in a “cycle life�. Such an approach allows for two cycles yearly. Longer periods on tend to correlate with more weight gain (not always though). Consequently, I assume a net gain of 20lbs per cycle and a total net gain of 40lbs yearly. In one year, again, 24 weeks of AAS usage. In both cases there are extra weeks in each year to start a cycle but not enough time to complete a “cycle life�(time on +time off=cycle life).
Yearly gains of 40 and 45 pounds are great. I believe the vast majority would be satisfied with such increases in mass. However, I postulate that net gains are not the only concern. Personally, I am concerned about my health 5 to 20 years from now. The side effects from anabolic steroids usage are a reality. While, they are not (in my opinion) near the extreme painted by the masses, the side effects do exist. Now in my experience, side effects correlate not only with drug dosages but also with time on. The greater period “on� tends to manifest a higher number of side effects and severity of side effects. Moving on from side effects while using AAS, one needs to consider recovery to a normal hormonal balance. Cycle length seeming has a direct impact on recovery, as does drug usage. Longer cycles trend towards longer and more difficult recovery periods. This seems especially true for the older user. Difficult recoveries can lead directly into a host of new problems, depression, weight loss, lots of bad days etc.
Now, consider the shorter cycle approach. I will call it a burst cycle because in theory one bursts into and out of the cycle. Ideally, I believe these cycles should only last 4 or 5 weeks of anabolic steroids usage. However, I consider an off period of “time on + 2weeks� should be maintained. These noticeable 2 weeks are to add additional time where one is not using any exogenous hormones or manipulating hormones via pharmaceuticals. Following either the 4 or 5 week on, I reasonably assume one could achieve a net gain of 7.5lbs. Note, the “cycle life� of each is 10 and 12 weeks. Applying this yearly for the 4 weeks on, one could compete 5 cycles and assumingly net 37.5 lbs. Over this year actual time on, is only 20 weeks. Notice this is 4 fewer weeks of AAS usage when compared to the longer cycles.
The key to these burst cycles are the anabolic steroids used. Ideally, one should use the base compounds but testosterone propionate ester(for example) should work as well. In addition, an oral compound could be added and used for the entirety of the cycle. Drug selection may come down to preference. However, the key is to use AAS that are “fast� acting and for this reason the base compounds would make ideal selections.
To me the “burst� protocol is more logical. In addition, I truly believe that while such an approach may not yield as great a weight gain, it will not be as taxing on one’s health. Personally, I believe this exchange is worth the cost."
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