No shit! We have been discussing it with another member of the boards who has done it for some time. We got it, I told her to read as much as possible on it...which she did...searched the boards, read articles, did more searches, etc. Then I say,"hey, lets post something on this board, they know their shit." "Okay" she says. Then at like 12:00 last night, she is like, "I don't feel hot yet." I asked her if she did it, and she is like "well, yeah." I shook my head in disbelief and thanked god that she read at least some of the posts and all the info on it. Anyways, thanks to all those who have responded and lke I said, I will keep you updated. I started my prop/eq/winny/para/anavar cycle also...I will let you know how that goes.