my friends are morons

[The Rage]

so my friends know that i've done a few cycles and got some good gains from them. they know i do a lot of research on this stuff in my spare time and everything. then they want to ask me for advice on what they should do for a cycle. i usually try to discourage them b/c they dont have a clue what they're doing but if they insist i usually recommend just a basic 10 weeks of test E at 500mg. Then they want to ask questions like "what a/b winstrol and anadrol together?" or "why cant i just run a cycle for 3-5 weeks... i dont want to get too big"... or what a/b a deca only cycle, i heard deca was good... i think i'm gonna run deca for 5 weeks." i'm definately not an expert but i've ran a cycle or two and been researching and reading a/b this stuff for over a year... i dont even know why they ask. i was just curious if you guys had this problem? sorry i just had to vent a little.

 

[paulwigan]

they cant accept its not just about the drugs.
also every one is different and they listen to too many people.
thye see someone who has good results and want to do whatever they are doing.
most begiiners do it.
go on the net and you will see no two people even aggree on it.
Just post a what is the best beginners cycle and you will get many different answers

 

[BigCracker]

so my friends know that i've done a few cycles and got some good gains from them. they know i do a lot of research on this stuff in my spare time and everything. then they want to ask me for advice on what they should do for a cycle. i usually try to discourage them b/c they dont have a clue what they're doing but if they insist i usually recommend just a basic 10 weeks of test E at 500mg. Then they want to ask questions like "what a/b winstrol and anadrol together?" or "why cant i just run a cycle for 3-5 weeks... i dont want to get too big"... or what a/b a deca only cycle, i heard deca was good... i think i'm gonna run deca for 5 weeks." i'm definately not an expert but i've ran a cycle or two and been researching and reading a/b this stuff for over a year... i dont even know why they ask. i was just curious if you guys had this problem? sorry i just had to vent a little.

I've spent the last 2 weeks flaming guys like your friends in 50% of my posts here. I'd much rather be sharing my knowledge with guys that know all of the basics. However, I think flaming the uninformed-dbol only taking newbs-that have never followed a serious workout routine or diet in their lives is a necessary evil. If you're nice they ignore the thread responses until the answer that they were hoping for appears whether it's correct or not. Then some other newb reads it and thinks it's the word of God. It's totally retarded. At least giving them a spanking might be a wake up call for them to do more research on their own. Once they do that, they'll likely be thankful for the tough love. I truly believe that once you are truly knowledgeable about any one subject, that's when you realize just how much you do not know. Acquiring AS 411 is an ongoing process too-often changing along the way. If you wanna take on the responsibility of AS use, you're crazy to rely solely on other's 411. There's no excuse for not educating yourself first-especially with the resources outside of msg boards on the internet.

 

[cranny]

LMAO at not wanting to get too big. I wish I had a dollar for everytime I heard that. I guess I had it all wrong. Evidently all you have to do is take some dbol, sit back and watch the massive gains come on like a freight train. I hope you do your best to try and educate these guys or at least point them in the right direction.

 

[gettnlarge01]

How old are your moron friends? Some people will not listen to the right info because of all the years of being feed the wrong info!!!

 

[Caper26]

LMAO at not wanting to get too big. I wish I had a dollar for everytime I heard that.

^^^
LOL me to. I just had a buddy tell me the other day it is going to be hard to decide what to take because he does not want to look like the bodybuilders in the magazines that is just gross. I told him he definately does not have to worry about that, in retrospect i should have told him it would turn him into a freak. Since he knows nothing about gear and thats coming from myself with a couple of cycles under my belt.

Caper26

 

[BigCracker]

LMAO at not wanting to get too big. I wish I had a dollar for everytime I heard that.

^^^
LOL me to. I just had a buddy tell me the other day it is going to be hard to decide what to take because he does not want to look like the bodybuilders in the magazines that is just gross. I told him he definately does not have to worry about that, in retrospect i should have told him it would turn him into a freak. Since he knows nothing about gear and thats coming from myself with a couple of cycles under my belt.

Caper26

Try pointing out to him that a good portion of the guys trying to look like bodybuilders 24/7 are still unable to do so. From what I remember from my psych class, people often say what they don't want when it's something they really do want. This way when this person doesn't acquire/achieve their goal they can trivialize it by saying it's not what they wanted from the start. It's a sort of defense mechanism of the brain to protect the ego.

 

[bw1]

LMAO at not wanting to get too big. I wish I had a dollar for everytime I heard that. I guess I had it all wrong. Evidently all you have to do is take some dbol, sit back and watch the massive gains come on like a freight train. I hope you do your best to try and educate these guys or at least point them in the right direction.

I agree, LOL @ "I don't want to get to big" WTF? When I hear people say that, I usually tell them don't worry you won't. Ususally people who say this are lazy and don't know what the fuck there doing. Just looking for that magic pill.

 

[karachi183]

Everyone is newbie at some point it usually starts in highschool or shortly there after. With that being said everyone is different and like most things in life you live and learn. Everyones chemistry is also different so what works for me may not work for you so the best advice is to obviously point people in the right direction as far as documentation first. Then you talk about real world instances.. IMO the worst info is to tell a newbie to go ahead an hope on 500mgs of test a week for 8 weeks when in reality he could have made gains by tweeking his diet an training alone...

 

[BigCracker]

Everyone is newbie at some point it usually starts in highschool or shortly there after. With that being said everyone is different and like most things in life you live and learn. Everyones chemistry is also different so what works for me may not work for you so the best advice is to obviously point people in the right direction as far as documentation first. Then you talk about real world instances.. IMO the worst info is to tell a newbie to go ahead an hope on 500mgs of test a week for 8 weeks when in reality he could have made gains by tweeking his diet an training alone...

What he said.

 

[Makavelli]

After over 10 years of counseling people on various aspects of this game I've come to the same conclusion that Dan Duchaine came to: Most people don't reallly want your advice or opinion. They just want you to confirm that what they are doing or believe is right. They simply want agreement so they feel better. Pathetic? Yes. But nevertheless true.

 

[MXEng10]

I have the same prob bro, guys asking how and why I get big and fast, then I show them the grocery bill every week.....

 

[karachi183]

After over 10 years of counseling people on various aspects of this game I've come to the same conclusion that Dan Duchaine came to: Most people don't reallly want your advice or opinion. They just want you to confirm that what they are doing or believe is right. They simply want agreement so they feel better. Pathetic? Yes. But nevertheless true.

great point!

 

[X Man]

so my friends know that i've done a few cycles and got some good gains from them. they know i do a lot of research on this stuff in my spare time and everything. then they want to ask me for advice on what they should do for a cycle. i usually try to discourage them b/c they dont have a clue what they're doing but if they insist i usually recommend just a basic 10 weeks of test E at 500mg. Then they want to ask questions like "what a/b winstrol and anadrol together?" or "why cant i just run a cycle for 3-5 weeks... i dont want to get too big"... or what a/b a deca only cycle, i heard deca was good... i think i'm gonna run deca for 5 weeks." i'm definately not an expert but i've ran a cycle or two and been researching and reading a/b this stuff for over a year... i dont even know why they ask. i was just curious if you guys had this problem? sorry i just had to vent a little.

i know little compared to most on here.... but at school im BILL-NYE-THE JUICE GUY...sometimes its annoying sometimes its cool

 

[gettnlarge01]

After over 10 years of counseling people on various aspects of this game I've come to the same conclusion that Dan Duchaine came to: Most people don't reallly want your advice or opinion. They just want you to confirm that what they are doing or believe is right. They simply want agreement so they feel better. Pathetic? Yes. But nevertheless true.

Dan was the man!!

 

[silver_shadow]

i have a friend who used to work out, was around 5'9" 190 at single digit bf - full 6 pack. then he went through a bad phase and lost everything. that phase continues till today - his life is a mess and he cannot even get back to where he was natty. so he "went on the internet" (that's what he told me) and found out about steroids. so he asks me whether a month of deca only is a good way to begin. i told him to clean up his life first, get some natty gains going again before considering it. then i mentioned deca dick to him and how with longer esters there's no question of going anywhere under 8 weeks let alone a 4 week cycle. then i told him if he wants to research things in detail to visit EF - i then told him to avoid bb.com. guess what? that's exactly what he meant by "the internet"!