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My ex avoiding child support can I do anything?

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Bros this is a fucked up world we live in. My ex whom I knew for a few months gets pregnant. I tell her I am not ready and we need to abort. I am against it, but realize I don't want to have a kid w/this women. She won't do it and wants the baby. My child is born and I find out she has no maternal instinct. I basically raise the baby. Fed up with me being the bread winner and always waking up at night with the baby we fight often. To make a long story short she leaves me all the bills and the baby. We go to court and I am awarded child support. This bitch dances at all the top clubs in the NY Metro so she makes a lot of money all cash.

She has been avoiding her payments for two months since I was awarded judgement. I am suppose to get paid through probation. I wrote them letters about her not paying. She always has very expensive clothes on, just leased a 45k vehichle, constantly traveling to exotic places and can sleep all day long without any responsibility. I am left being Mr. Mom working full-time, picking up my child from daycare and raising her 100% on my own. Social life has really took a beating.

Is there anything I can do to make this women pay? Or is it that easy for people to be negligent. Man when I see her I cannot help but get pissed off because I told her how hard it would be to raise a child and she didn't want to listen. Now she just leaves me to pick up the pieces and come around when convenient. I feel like I never had any control of this situation.

Anybody have any advice?
 
Sadly, since she is working for cash, this is one of the instances where it is difficult to get her to pay.

Your best bet is to contact your local Child Support Enforcement Agency through the State and have them attempt to collect the support for you. They can get wage garnishments, intercept her income tax refunds, etc.

Here is a good place to start if you are in New Jersey

http://www.njchildsupport.org/
 
This transition of doing everything on my own was hard. I stayed focused and got my daughter in a great preschool program. Only problem is my bills have gone up considerably due to preschool and babysitting, lawyers etc. If times get tight cannot just go out and get another stream of income because I am tied down. It really pisses me off that this bitch put me in this position. Thank god for my daughter though she is a blessing...
 
ZenMachine said:
Sadly, since she is working for cash, this is one of the instances where it is difficult to get her to pay.

Your best bet is to contact your local Child Support Enforcement Agency through the State and have them attempt to collect the support for you. They can get wage garnishments, intercept her income tax refunds, etc.

Here is a good place to start if you are in New Jersey

http://www.njchildsupport.org/

This is where you need to start.

The reality is getting support from a parent who doesn't want to pay is like getting blood from a stone. You can get it sometimes... but it is never easy.
 
Mackavelli said:
Thank god for my daughter though she is a blessing...


It's great that you still see it this way. That is what is important:)

I feel bad for you but like the others say, it will be a long road to travel. It's a shame that some people can shun their responsibilites and get away with it. Her time will come but probably not soon enough. I know it's hard to accept that you are on your own with your child. Take it one day at a time and things will fall into place.

Good things will happen for you. I wish you luck.
 
I heard there is some law that says they can take away her license if she doesn't pay child support.

Sounds liek a major bitch, I hope she has mad stretch marks on her tummy. There were a couple of bitches at Good Guys the other night with very obvious stretch marks, one even wore a wrap around her midsection to try to hide it but it wasn't foolin no one. ask gtrcivic.
 
Someone in the office told me if it goes over 5000 grand it is a federal offense. So since this cunt made my life extremely difficult in every sense of the word the only way I can make her have any reasponsibility is to somehow get her to pay. I will see to it that she does not get over on this as well. Fuckin cunt can spend three hundred on jeans but cannot help me out with one diaper or anything. I hope she pisses off the wrong guy who is not a tolerant as me and he gives her a good ass beating.
 
Dial Tone - the Child Support Enforcement system isn't perfect, but it does do it's best to assure that the custodial parent gets the money. Sadly, if someone decides they don't want to pay, there are a lot of ways to avoid it.

Mackavelli - I don't believe that $5,000 in arrears is a federal offense. It could be, it has been a few years since I have worked with the child support system, but I don't think so. They do however have recourse against non paying non custodial parents, that include suspension of driving privledges, wage garnishment, and in some cases going to jail for non payment.

Based on your initial post, I am assuming you have an order in place. Use the state to help you enforce it.
 
Mackavelli said:
This transition of doing everything on my own was hard. I stayed focused and got my daughter in a great preschool program. Only problem is my bills have gone up considerably due to preschool and babysitting, lawyers etc. If times get tight cannot just go out and get another stream of income because I am tied down. It really pisses me off that this bitch put me in this position. Thank god for my daughter though she is a blessing...


I give you credit for taking up the slack and really trying to give your daughter a good life and home! I wouldn't let your ex just show up whenever she wanted to see the baby though.... If she's that much of a uncaring parent try to take custody away from her completely. Your daughter will probably grow up happier not knowing her loser mother.
 
First things first. Get on the phone to the IRS and report the bitch for not paying taxes. If they end up collecting anything from her, you will receive a certain percent as a reward, I think around 10%. Get your lawyer to call her lawyer and handle the child support. If she doesn't obey, sue her for child support and spousal support. Say she planned to take care of you and the baby for the rest of your lives. I realize it's bullshit, but you need to get her attention. Good luck.
 
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I am looking into the IRS thing though, but not as easy as I thought. Reason being she works at the clubs and on a bad night makes $300 and a good night over a $1000. I know for a fact because she never made less than three hundred per night. The problem lies in the fact that she can say that she is only working one night or a couple of nights a week and made $100 per night. Cannot really proof how much she is cheating unless they did an investigation which definitely would not happen.
 
Guys please learn from Mackavellis experience/situation and even though he loves his daughter very much! Do not get a stripper pregnant!

And if you get married "Always" have a prenup!

Dcups 2 cents!
 
I can't contribute anything above what the guys above have said. But that child having somebody in the world that cares about her like you do is what is important.

Having her be proud of you will be one of the biggest payoffs you'll ever get.

Keep your head up.
 
Finally, support to my theory that their are dead-beat moms out there!


Sue her ass! Make her fucking life misearable....let the system screw her like it has screwed so many men.



Call the newspaper or something. Get some media attention.
 
Thanks guys. Yeah learn from mistake don't fuck any stripper. I used condoms and they broke a couple of times and she got pregnant. Definitely not part of my life plan, so I actually took her to the clinic because I knew I was not ready to be a father. She said she was ready and would not have it any other way. Us having the baby was her choice not mine. Then when she realizes that you don't get much sleep with children and you cannot go clubbing all the time what does she do. Take off and leave me with everything.

Kind of ironic how I told her I was not ready, I had no say in this matter b/c it was her body, then she realizes what I said was true and left me with the baby.

Made me a stronger person, but definitely took its toll on any fun and or dating as for now. I guess someone has a plan for me...
 
I am so sorry to hear about your situation. Yes, there are MANY women who should not be allowed to breathe air. Just because she gives birth doesn't automatically mean that she deserves the title "MOTHER".

You're a good guy as it is obvious your daughter is the center of your universe.

Do what you can to get support out of her mother, but as I can tell you being on the other end of the situation - when your ex is self-employed or crosses state lines there isn't Jack you can do about proving their income or sadly getting support. I busted mine lying on his income and it didn't amount to a hill of beans.

It's all good though because YOU ARE THERE for your child.

Do what you can to get the money for your daughter and just let your daughter continue to mold you into the fine man that you are.

The mother will have her day of reckoning and it will be harsh.
 
Mackavelli said:
I am looking into the IRS thing though, but not as easy as I thought. Reason being she works at the clubs and on a bad night makes $300 and a good night over a $1000. I know for a fact because she never made less than three hundred per night. The problem lies in the fact that she can say that she is only working one night or a couple of nights a week and made $100 per night. Cannot really proof how much she is cheating unless they did an investigation which definitely would not happen.

Don't strip clubs have to keep records of who is working and when. I would think so because they have to check the dancers ID's.
 
The IRS goes by how much money went through your checking account. If she bought clothing, etc in cash there isn't anything that can be done. The only way the IRS would give her a hard time is if she made a MAJOR purchase (like say, a home) and said she only made $10K.
 
Didn't you say she leased a vehicle? I was under the impression that there were certain financial requirements for leasing such as verifiable source of income. And if she can afford to lease a 45K vehicle, as well as keep full coverage insurance on that vehicle, she can well afford to pay support for her child. This might be something to look into.
 
takniteasy said:
Didn't you say she leased a vehicle? I was under the impression that there were certain financial requirements for leasing such as verifiable source of income. And if she can afford to lease a 45K vehicle, as well as keep full coverage insurance on that vehicle, she can well afford to pay support for her child. This might be something to look into.

Definitely makes sense!

Unless some idiot leased it for her.....
 
is the kid even yours? I mean I know she got pregnant while she was with you, but that don't mean shit obviously.

best bet is to forge a life insurance policy for a lot of cash, make yourself the benificiary, and have her whacked....Well that's what my friend tells you to do anywya.
 
Yeah my daughter is mine looks identical to me. Even if she wasn't mine, she knows me as daddy now and I would raise her just the same. But that is not the case. As for the support, I am looking into how to follow up on her making payments because she has a nice apartment over looking Manhatten and an expensive car so she has money to play with. Sucks when you deal with a real selfish bitch. I am by no means struggling financially, but she wanted to have the baby so I cannot let her get off w/out some responsibility even if it is just in the form of a payment. I know if she had my daughter wages would be garnished before I even got my check so I should not make her life any easier, right?
 
Yea, get what you can out of her now because soon she will
grow old and saggy and not be making the dollar..
 
wait a minute mackavelli let's examine your motive here.

You said you aren't hurting for cash.

You are just doing this for revenge and for payback because that's what you think she'd do.

Those are not the purest of motives. Is this the example you want to set for your child?

Perhaps you should just live and let live. So your ex is a reprehensible character. Unfortunately teaching your shild that her mom is a bad person is terrible for her self esteem so you should even try to gloss over that as much as possible.

Now I don't know how you interacti with your kid so sorry if I am jumping to conslusions. As hard as it is it is always preferable to take the high road.
 
My motives are not malicious, nor I am trying to teach my child the wrong way. I never speak negatively about my ex to my daughter even though she dropped her like a bad habit. Trust me this has not been easy considering my ex was so selfish that she did not visit her own daughter for months on end and even when she was hospitalized for a weeks time. I will let my daughter make her own judegement for her self some day in regards to her mother.

However, it takes two to tango and she should hold up to her responsibility even if it is a financial obligation. I am not just getting support out of revenge. What I meant was that since I make money on the books my wages would be garnished automatically. I cannot do that with her. Why should I let her get over, so she can buy another pair of Frankie B jeans? Legally, even if I wanted to not accept child support my lawyer said I couldn't because that money is for my child. I am not strapped for cash like I said, but by her paying it would take some of the burden off of my shoulders. I think I am letting her get off easy.
 
Y_Lifter said:
Yea, get what you can out of her now because soon she will
grow old and saggy and not be making the dollar..


Hell yeah. That is good advice.
 
Exhaust every legal method at your disposal. If all else fails, sell her to an Arab who is interested in a white wife/concubine/whatever (assuming she's white), sell her car, get all of her shit, and sell that, too.

Or, like BI's buddy said, make some kind of exaggerated life insurance policy for her, and then do what Puc/Hulkster said.

If it comes to that, make sure this thread gets erased. I'm sure someone would be sympathetic to the cause.
 
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