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My cycle history

AAP

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since a lot of you PM and email me asking about cycle advice and what I have used, I thought I would post it here. I don't like to sound rude or like I am keeping secrets, but when you guys ask me about A50, dbol, GH, etc... I simply can't answer because I have never used any of those. I could parrot what I read on here, but I don't think that is the same as honest input.

My theory of AAS use has been as follows:
Make the most out of your natural potential first. Master your traing and diet, because AAS are not going to make up for sloppy attention elsewhere. If you are going to invest $$ and a couple of hours each day (read : hundreds and hundreds of hours per year) in something, if you are going to wake up sore 90% of the times. Then make it count for something. Training and diet are profound. Master them or they will master you.

Once you start... AAS first, when you stop gaining then go with AAS + GH, when the gains stop again, AAS + GH +Insulin, and so forth. I see people on here on their third cycle already using GH.


Cycle #1 EQ 600mg weekly and Winstrol 50mg daily. 34 weeks. I made really quality gains off this. My scale weight went up 11 pounds, but I also dropped another 1-2% of bodyfat which means I had more lean muscle gains than the scale showed. I learned many things on this cycle. I learned that I especially like Ultragain and Supra EQ. I tried some others that didn't cut it, but kept coming back to those two. I learned EQ = hunger. I don't have the anxiety that some people experience. Winstro... Zambons are gold. Micronized and flows easily through a 27g needle. Next to Zambons, I liked Supra's as well. I did not have sore joints or such as most people. Nor did it affect my hairline.

Cycle #2 200mg NPP and 250 test cyp E3D. 10 days into this cycle I quit. I couldn't take it. I was having severe reactions to the NPP and every site I injected swelled up and protrude like a golf ball under my skin. Pain that would have made the rest of you cry. No exaggeration. As one smart (and gay) chemist off here told me, phenylprop is extremely similiar on a molecular level to bee venom. I have never been stung by a bee, but I guess I am allergic to them.

Cycle #3 Fina 76mg daily, 500mg test cyp weekly. Fina is not for me. I had night sweats, horrible breath, oily skin, weird dreams,,, like someone on here said fina is like slowly self poisoning yourself. The worst thing is that my appetite was ruined. I don't mean decreased. I mean, I went from eating 7 big meals a day to having a protein shake for the whole day. 1 protein shake. The thought of food made me want to throw up. I ran this cycle 8 weeks and starting half way through week 4 I cut the fina back to 76mg EOD and my appetite improved. My weight did not change at all. So I think the fina and test kept my muscle mass intact even though I was in a severe starvation mode. I will never use fina again.


My next cycle is going to be 1 gram of test weekly and nothing else. (maybe some femera if I start to bloat.) I will post on this when I start it.
 
AAP said:
Cycle #3 Fina 76mg daily, 500mg test cyp weekly. Fina is not for me. I had night sweats, horrible breath, oily skin, weird dreams,,, like someone on here said fina is like slowly self poisoning yourself. The worst thing is that my appetite was ruined. I don't mean decreased. I mean, I went from eating 7 big meals a day to having a protein shake for the whole day. 1 protein shake. The thought of food made me want to throw up. I ran this cycle 8 weeks and starting half way through week 4 I cut the fina back to 76mg EOD and my appetite improved. My weight did not change at all. So I think the fina and test kept my muscle mass intact even though I was in a severe starvation mode. I will never use fina again.
That, for me is fina in a nutshell.
 
Your first cycle is what i find interesting!!

34 weeks of zambons every day = 238 zambons.
Your either independently wealthy, or in strong favor of anabolics over androgens.

Any problems with recovering from a 9 month cycle?? I am doing research because I am interested in doing a 6 month cycle of test/anavar and curious about the difficulty of duration.

Did you inject all those zambons in the glutes, or opt for site injections??

Thanks
HLG
 
6 months on anavar at what dosage?
if its anywhere between 40-60mg a day you might have some liver issues. in the med journal it says not longer than 4 weeks. most people take it for 6-8 weeks. im on 8th week, and my liver values are elivated a bit.
 
hairlossguru said:
Your first cycle is what i find interesting!!

34 weeks of zambons every day = 238 zambons.
Your either independently wealthy, or in strong favor of anabolics over androgens.

Any problems with recovering from a 9 month cycle?? I am doing research because I am interested in doing a 6 month cycle of test/anavar and curious about the difficulty of duration.

Did you inject all those zambons in the glutes, or opt for site injections??

Thanks
HLG

It was not all zambons the entire cycle. I tried other brands as well. Supra (GREAT!) Proline (sucked donkey ass), also about 1/2 way through the cycle I was alternating injects and orals EOD. One day I would inject, the next day I would use orals (thai, greek, etc..)

I started doing glute shot, but quit it. They are not for me. Neither are quads. I would shoot chest, biceps and shoulders. That is 6 sites there. With the occassional calf inject thrown in.
 
AAP said:
As one smart (and gay) chemist off here told me, phenylprop is extremely similiar on a molecular level to bee venom. I have never been stung by a bee, but I guess I am allergic to them.

Bee Venom is a complex mixture. I am struggling to find even one component that even resembles NPP in structure.

The main component of bee venom is Mellitin (50% by dry weight). This is huge in comparison to NPP and not similar in structure at all. As Mellitin is the main pain causing component of bee venom I am struggling to see the basis of this theory.

Many of the other components are enzymes.......again far too big. The acids present don't seem to resemple NPP.

Did this guy give you any more info??
 
i've seen some of your pics..
you're a shredded moster.

lets see some recent pics big guy..
 
4cycles! and if thats you in the avatar great job, shows newbs that you dont need 1g of test ew to grow like a earlier post mentioned
 
satchboogie said:
i've seen some of your pics..
you're a shredded moster.

lets see some recent pics big guy..


I am going to take some new ones in a couple of weeks prior to cycle. I always photo the progress for my training journal. I hope everyone does keep a training journal around here.
 
AAP said:
It was not all zambons the entire cycle. I tried other brands as well. Supra (GREAT!) Proline (sucked donkey ass), also about 1/2 way through the cycle I was alternating injects and orals EOD. One day I would inject, the next day I would use orals (thai, greek, etc..)

I started doing glute shot, but quit it. They are not for me. Neither are quads. I would shoot chest, biceps and shoulders. That is 6 sites there. With the occassional calf inject thrown in.

How did the calf inject thing workout for ya?? I have heard mixed reviews about calf injects. Also...what about recovery? Any problems after 34 weeks of continuous anabolics?
 
My recovery? I didn't use anything. I just went about 10 weeks off and then tried the second cycle that was a failure. I have never used clomid or HCG or anything.

Though I am going to need to post and get some input on using them and PCT in general for after my test cycle.

(anyone know any good links?)

The calf shot was fairly easy. I used a 27g, 1/2 inch and never more than 1cc. At first, the shot was painful and lumpy but soon, the fascia had stretch enough to accomodate the extra volume inside the muscle. Actually to be truthful, my first bicep shot hurt 10x more than the calf shot the next day.
 
People rave about tren... in all fairness I will have to say, I only lost 3 pounds. (though they came back when my appetite returned somewhat as I reduced the tren).

But I am convinced that the tren/test kept my muscle mass intact although I was eating only 1/8th of what I normally do. If I only ate one meal per day now, by day three, I would be flat and wasting away. I went about 4 weeks on one meal a day. And that meal was usually a protein shake.
 
oh yes they do! im finishing up my bottle as we speak! ill def bump them..

they felt a lil overdosed..even at 1 cap(25mg) im getting supior results
 
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