My anavar only cycle...

[JibbyJabba]

Alright, I am 5'9" 155 lbs. I have been as big as 175 before, but I recently had stomach surgery and could not eat hardly anything (being fed through an IV for the first week). I have cycled once before about 2 years ago which brought me to the 175... simple deca only cycle... I kept a large percentage of my gains until my recent surgery. Losing 30 lbs in a matter of weeks was pretty psychologically defeating, but I am doing better now (I got as low as 145)... So, my main concern with my next cycle is quality and permenancy of gains. I recently came upon a very good source for some SPA ox and I was able to procure 360 tabs rather cheaply (relative to other source's prices). So, I am going to do 20mgs a day for 6 weeks. I know, I know...this is pretty weak compared to some of you guys' cycles, but I am not a competitor - just looking for solid, keepable gains.

I know many on here would not consider using Clomid or arimidex post-cycle when doing a light var only cycle like this...however, I am wondering if it would help at all... I mean, I have a bunch of clomid and LDex just sitting around (from a friend), shouldn't I just go ahead and use it? Would it hurt anything? Thanks.

 

[ZKaudio]

There was a recent post about a guy who had his nat. test checked after an anavar only cycle and it showed decreased values. After hearing this info, I'd definitely take the clomid... better having balls than not i say...

 

[el cubano]

Those dosages aren't low for competitors, they are low for little girls! LOL.

 

[mrt]

20-25mg/day of SPA OX is quite OK for your weight. People here claim to get better results with higher dosages but with not so potent OX as SPA's. So go with 20mg/day along with Creatine. Take some ALA too and Clomid afterwards.

 

[JibbyJabba]

Those dosages aren't low for competitors, they are low for little girls! LOL.

HAHA..big strong man make funny.

Anyone else maybe? I can appreciate those of you who are down for taking a gram of test a week. I mean, cycling like that has its obvious advantages...Its just not for me... how about it? Anyone wanna comment on the efficacy of taking clomid and LDex after a light cycle of anavar?

 

[JibbyJabba]

20-25mg/day of SPA OX is quite OK for your weight. People here claim to get better results with higher dosages but with not so potent OX as SPA's. So go with 20mg/day along with Creatine. Take some ALA too and Clomid afterwards.

right on... so, in your opinion, the LDex would be a waste post-cycle?

 

[Vageta]

First of all yes the Ox will lower your natural test but it will bounce back much faster than doing some heavy androgen cycles. I'd recommend clomid for only 1 week, a 3 week therapy is unneeded and would cause more side effects than the Ox did.

I've ran more than one Ox cycle as high as 50mg daily and I never used clomid nor did I lose any of my gains. Just because your natural test drops doesn't mean it will come back at the same speed for every cycle you do.

20mg is plenty, especially if it's SPA since it won't be underdosed. Also since you had the muscle before it won't be hard to get it back again due to muscle memory. 20mg of Ox should be plenty to help support this if you are able to eat enough.

I too lost 30 pounds due to a stomach illness and I put it all back on and more rather easily. Most if it came back naturally without drugs and then I started back up on some Ox at 30mg a day and by the end of 6 weeks I was stronger than when I left off.

 

[mrt]

right on... so, in your opinion, the LDex would be a waste post-cycle?

No need for Arimidex for OX only cycle

 

[JibbyJabba]

20mg is plenty, especially if it's SPA since it won't be underdosed.

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I think so too... people fail to realize the superiority of BTG's and SPA over the undergound generics and vet brands. Its not just a dosing issue, but also that BTG & SPA Oxandrolone have superior absorption rates than that of others.

 

[JibbyJabba]

bump

 

[monkeyballs]

I think so too... people fail to realize the superiority of BTG's and SPA over the undergound generics and vet brands. Its not just a dosing issue, but also that BTG & SPA Oxandrolone have superior absorption rates than that of others.

i'm going to use 25mg BTG ED for 8 weeks. More than a sufficent dose.

You've got your answer on the HPTA q.
Var will shut you down. I would at least use clomid...but liquidex is always nice as well. And not that expensive either...especially when compared to the ox.

With your light dose though, you'll probably only need a little clomid.

 

[Hugh Gellatts]

armidex works real well post-cycle at restoring natural test. i think it is even better than clomid for this purpose. you can use both though.

 

[JibbyJabba]

Clomid definitely.. no doubt about it. I have some LDex and its going to be quite a long time before I can cycle again, so I think I am gonna throw it in there too.

What about the length of time to cycle it? I read in the Ox FAQ that 6 weeks is typically a minimum... is that the general consensus? I remember reading a few posts where people said they saw no real differences in 6wks and 8 wks...

 

[monkeyballs]

8 weeks at least.
At that low of a dose your gonna need some time.