My 3 week update, First cycle

[gonelifting]

A little background 36 years old, First cycle, 230 pounds, 6ft 3.

TEST Enth 500 week split Sunday-Wed... 40 Dbol ED

I felt great the first week, Gaining weight and everything seemed "buffered" maybe because of the water retetion. I had slight pain in my shoulder for the past 4-6 months and the first week it seemed to go away a little. I gained about 10 pounds the first 10 days. I went up as much as 15 pounds. BUT THEN my right nipple started burning me big time and I started 40 nolva/day and then after a few days I took .25 Armidex also. The Armidex seemed to do the trick INSTANTLY when I started it, I don`t know if the Nolva was kicking in or not at the same time so I`m not sure which it was really... anyway I was`nt the same after that. I was`nt as horny after starting the Nolva and I did`nt even look the same, THAT was to be expected I guess.

So now I`m off the Nolva and Armidex and have very slight "feeling" in my nipples. They are tender when I touch them. I`m gonna ty and hold off on the Nolva and or Armidex IF I CAN.


So 3 weeks in I`m up about 12-15 pounds and feeling pretty goo. Not like the first week but I`ll take it. I`m planning on 10 or 12 weeks not sure how long the D-bol... maybe 4 or 5.

 

[CENTURION44]

wat are you taking that made you gain so quickly...most things take time to kick in...

 

[gonelifting]

wat are you taking that made you gain so quickly...most things take time to kick in...

I`m guessing it was the 40 D-bol/day. It`s been 3 weeks. I thought this was normal? I`m wondering if the TEST has`nt "kicked in" yet, if I`m gonna end up needing the Nolva or Adex again. I just hate what it did to me. I must be very sensitive to these things.

 

[liquidmuscle]

give it another wk and you will see where the test fills in for the dbol

 

[gonelifting]

give it another wk and you will see where the test fills in for the dbol

Wow! So it gets better? lol I thought I was flying high already. Like I said if it DOES change, I may need that dreaded Nolv/adex which really gets to me.

 

[_Yossarian_]

Id jump back on that liquidex/nolva if your nipples are tender. You'll regret it once the lump forms....

 

[Paulo]

Yeah, you might not need 40mg a day of nolva, try at least to hit 10mg, until the soreness in your nips goes away. I would venture to say that it is the dbol that is causing the gyno-esque symptoms.

Happy juicing

 

[gonelifting]

Id jump back on that liquidex/nolva if your nipples are tender. You'll regret it once the lump forms....

Really? Shit. I thought I would monitor it and I may have been very sensitive. Maybe I`ll start with 20 Nolva/day and .25 of Armidex every day or every OTHER day.

When I took the first time, the burning stopped so I stopped taking them a few days later. Now they`re just tender.

Can I get more opinions on this please?

 

[Paulo]

Can I get more opinions on this please?

see above

 

[Dial_tone]

If you're that sensitive, like me, I would continue the a-dex at a lower dose.....0.5mg EOD.

 

[gonelifting]

To be exact, the tips of my nipples ar sensitive to the touch. I just want to be clear on how they feel so we`re talking about the same thing. Also, I feel my shirt rubbing on them, that`s how sensitive they are. Is that normal? and When it goes away, is it supposed to be ALL gone? or Slightly there?

 

[Paulo]

You do need to consider that you are consuming about 700mg of anabolics per week. highly aromatising ones at that.

I am taking 1mg of adex EOD and it seems to be keeping things in line.

 

[Dial_tone]

To be exact, the tips of my nipples ar sensitive to the touch. I just want to be clear on how they feel so we`re talking about the same thing. Also, I feel my shirt rubbing on them, that`s how sensitive they are. Is that normal? and When it goes away, is it supposed to be ALL gone? or Slightly there?

We call that gyno. Get on top of it NOW....don't wait just because you think it will cost you a few lbs on your cycle. None of that will matter if you're too embarassed to take your shirt off in public. It will become QUITE painful in the future.

 

[_Yossarian_]

one day they are sensitive, and the next day you wake up with the lump. It happens that fast....

 

[Slyder190]

12-15lbs in 3 weeks? Water, water everywhere, and not a drop to drink.

 

[gonelifting]

Damn OK I just took them again starting today. I took .5 Adex and 20 Nolva. Maybe I`ll bump the Nolva to 40/day until it stops and then cut back to 20 or 10 even, after a few days. I may stick with the .5 ADex for now /day too instead of every other day.

 

[Dial_tone]

I don't think you need both.

 

[gonelifting]

12-15lbs in 3 weeks? Water, water everywhere, and not a drop to drink.

lol yeah I don`t mind. I`m usually on the thin looking side anyway. I`m about 245 now.

 

[gonelifting]

I don't think you need both.

OK Just the Nolva? or Adex? I will say that I took the Nolva for about 5 days... and It did`nt do anything until I took the Adex, THEN it went away almost overnight! That may have been the exact time the nolva kicked in, who knows? Then I stopped both after systems seemed to stop.

thanks for the replies.

 

[jeb0177]

the nolva will just binds the receptors in the nipples that's all but the estrogen stills there, arimidex will not let it convert into estrogen which it causes gyno. Now I use femara liquid which I have been really satisfied with it.