Underwraps
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CLIFF NOTES VERSION: This progressive church was old fashioned and fuddy duddy just like a regular boring traditional church except for their message.
It was a ahead of it's time- the organization of secular humanists. There's nothing they promote that I don't agree with. (see below).
I can see how a church like this had to be created where well meaning folks wanted to embrace more beyond traditional Christian beliefs and agenda, yet still wanted to gather and organize and get stuff done. Ralf Waldo Emerson and his counterparts like Margaret Fuller were the forefathers and mothers. They were progressive, openminded, revolutionary,...
So, I walk in and what am I most struck by? Just how much their church structure is exactly THAT. It was very churchy! It's a completely traditional church structure from the pamphlet, welcoming guests, hyms (sans worship of a specific diety- and all about their tenets below). There was a lot of grey hair, some couples with young children, and my guess- some same sex couples, but if one didn't notice that- there would be NO difference compared to say a traditional Lutheran or Presbyterian service. A bit dry, boring, uninspiring and almost lifeless, though good content and with nice people.
There was maybe 1 bored lone teenager.
When I do go to a Christian church I normally visit a modern style church. Still plenty of bible thumping and strict core beliefs, but the people there are young and vibrant. Young couples, college age kids, single 20 somethings. People dressed the way they feel most comfortable- tattoos showing, some nose rings. No hate speech against homos. (oops). No judgment. The teens are glad to be there for the most part.
I hate to say it but churches are part content part show and LOTS of spirit when they are at their best. The Unitarians are missing it on that point. With the anything goes openmindedness they should be brimming with hipsters and young adults. Nope. Dry and "same old same old".
Me and Jesus have issues, but I don't mind singing a rockin' out song to "the Lord" with a good band on stage- it's sincere for them and they love what they do and the songs are uplifting and often transcendening for me.
I will still go back to learn more from the Unitarians, but they are like an old brand that needs updating and the other product may not be the content they want, but they have their marketing and packaging figured out- and the fans LOVE it- and it makes them feel good and alive and loved.
I went to be inspired and came away wanting to shake them up to WAKE UP! They are the PROGESSIVE ONES! They should rock that stance and go full hilt with it! Nope, we listening to pretty and sometimes depressing violins and quiet hymns.
You have GOT to be kidding me is what I thought. ROTFL!!
One femmy guy chatted me up. I'm going back to flirt some more with him, but the youngster hotties at the other church way out beauty the old/fat/nerdy men at the Uni church. Sex sells.... lol. "Forgive me lord and be with the starving pygmies in New Guinea." - Larry the Cable Guy
Straight from their website:
There are seven principles which Unitarian Universalist congregations affirm and promote:
It was a ahead of it's time- the organization of secular humanists. There's nothing they promote that I don't agree with. (see below).
I can see how a church like this had to be created where well meaning folks wanted to embrace more beyond traditional Christian beliefs and agenda, yet still wanted to gather and organize and get stuff done. Ralf Waldo Emerson and his counterparts like Margaret Fuller were the forefathers and mothers. They were progressive, openminded, revolutionary,...
So, I walk in and what am I most struck by? Just how much their church structure is exactly THAT. It was very churchy! It's a completely traditional church structure from the pamphlet, welcoming guests, hyms (sans worship of a specific diety- and all about their tenets below). There was a lot of grey hair, some couples with young children, and my guess- some same sex couples, but if one didn't notice that- there would be NO difference compared to say a traditional Lutheran or Presbyterian service. A bit dry, boring, uninspiring and almost lifeless, though good content and with nice people.
There was maybe 1 bored lone teenager.
When I do go to a Christian church I normally visit a modern style church. Still plenty of bible thumping and strict core beliefs, but the people there are young and vibrant. Young couples, college age kids, single 20 somethings. People dressed the way they feel most comfortable- tattoos showing, some nose rings. No hate speech against homos. (oops). No judgment. The teens are glad to be there for the most part.
I hate to say it but churches are part content part show and LOTS of spirit when they are at their best. The Unitarians are missing it on that point. With the anything goes openmindedness they should be brimming with hipsters and young adults. Nope. Dry and "same old same old".
Me and Jesus have issues, but I don't mind singing a rockin' out song to "the Lord" with a good band on stage- it's sincere for them and they love what they do and the songs are uplifting and often transcendening for me.
I will still go back to learn more from the Unitarians, but they are like an old brand that needs updating and the other product may not be the content they want, but they have their marketing and packaging figured out- and the fans LOVE it- and it makes them feel good and alive and loved.
I went to be inspired and came away wanting to shake them up to WAKE UP! They are the PROGESSIVE ONES! They should rock that stance and go full hilt with it! Nope, we listening to pretty and sometimes depressing violins and quiet hymns.
You have GOT to be kidding me is what I thought. ROTFL!!
One femmy guy chatted me up. I'm going back to flirt some more with him, but the youngster hotties at the other church way out beauty the old/fat/nerdy men at the Uni church. Sex sells.... lol. "Forgive me lord and be with the starving pygmies in New Guinea." - Larry the Cable Guy
Straight from their website:
There are seven principles which Unitarian Universalist congregations affirm and promote:
- The inherent worth and dignity of every person;
- Justice, equity and compassion in human relations;
- Acceptance of one another and encouragement to spiritual growth in our congregations;
- A free and responsible search for truth and meaning;
- The right of conscience and the use of the democratic process within our congregations and in society at large;
- The goal of world community with peace, liberty, and justice for all;
- Respect for the interdependent web of all existence of which we are a part.
- Direct experience of that transcending mystery and wonder, affirmed in all cultures, which moves us to a renewal of the spirit and an openness to the forces which create and uphold life;
- Words and deeds of prophetic women and men which challenge us to confront powers and structures of evil with justice, compassion, and the transforming power of love;
- Wisdom from the world's religions which inspires us in our ethical and spiritual life;
- Jewish and Christian teachings which call us to respond to God's love by loving our neighbors as ourselves;
- Humanist teachings which counsel us to heed the guidance of reason and the results of science, and warn us against idolatries of the mind and spirit.
- Spiritual teachings of earth-centered traditions which celebrate the sacred circle of life and instruct us to live in harmony with the rhythms of nature.
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