Mr. X, Krishna, other mods & experienced bros.................

[jronimoe15]

August 1, i'm starting a cycle of EQ/Var (got script for Var - $25 copay for 270 10mg pills....wow), planning on running Var for 8 weeks, EQ for 12 to 16 weeks. I've already got some feedback from some of you, but looking for a little more due to differing opinions. I'm already on HRT, taking .4mg/norditropin, 5 days per week, and my doc has suggested that i take low dose HCG 2/week to boost testosterone as part of the therapy. Everyone seems to love Var, but the recommended doses vary. With my script, i can take 50mg/day or 100mg/day. Additionally, does Dhb Anabolic Amplifier actually work? I haven't heard to many bros talk about throwing it in with their cycles. My questions are as follows:

stats: 6'0, 205, 35...........5 to 7 cycles, mostly while playing football in college. probably 3 cycles between 25 and 35 years old.

1. 12 or 16 weeks of EQ, and at what dose? With 10mg pills of Var, how should those be split up throughout the day?

2. Var for first 8 weeks, or last (i've heard so many different things, here, but it seems like the last would be best when the EQ is kicking in for synergistic effect.

3. I've heard that no PCT is needed for Var/EQ.........I don't believe this. What should i take and when should i start taking it?

4. What effect will the low dose HCG have if i take it throughtout my cycle as part of my HRT? Should i even take it while on my cycle?

5. Should any supps besides protein, tyler's detox.....like creatine, nitrix, DHb apmplifier, etc., be taken while on a cylce??

6. Will my HDL/LDL profiles return to normal after taking VAR??? Is there anything to take to prevent this................i.e Sesapure??????? Or will the HGH help with that?

7. Is it safe to run trex, sesapure, levorex, gluc, YES with this cycle???

8. I'M FINALLY FINISHED ASKING QUESTIONS...............UNLESS THERE IS ANYTHING ELSE YOU WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE.........LOL!!!!

EF and all the bros on here are the fucking shit..............i've always respected, and followed all the advice given on here.

 

[slat1]

I wish I had your endo. Mine just keeps checking my test levels and giving me the run around.

 

[jronimoe15]

I wish I had your endo. Mine just keeps checking my test levels and giving me the run around.

my guy is cool as shit.............he even called my insurance for an authorization so the oxandrin would be covered............as part of my Adult Hormoned deficiency therapy.

 

[Bruce]

bro pct is needed for sure with any aas. you can run hcg during 500ius a week when testes start to atrophy. that is personal preference. i dont' know about hrt so i can't tell you with regard to that. i would do this
600mg eq 1-14 weeks
60-100mg var 1-8 weeks
pct two weeks after last var shot.
you'll want some tylers liver detox and drink a lot of water. yes var at the begining of the cycle is a great way to go because you'll feel it 2-3 weeks in whereas eq is like 6 weeks to kick in. free var, my lord you are lucky

 

[jronimoe15]

bro pct is needed for sure with any aas. you can run hcg during 500ius a week when testes start to atrophy. that is personal preference. i dont' know about hrt so i can't tell you with regard to that. i would do this
600mg eq 1-14 weeks
60-100mg var 1-8 weeks
pct two weeks after last var shot.
you'll want some tylers liver detox and drink a lot of water. yes var at the begining of the cycle is a great way to go because you'll feel it 2-3 weeks in whereas eq is like 6 weeks to kick in. free var, my lord you are lucky

last Var shot?? did you mean last EQ shot or last Var pill??

 

[macrophage69alpha]

I wish I had your endo. Mine just keeps checking my test levels and giving me the run around.

get another one.

 

[jronimoe15]

get another one.

get another what??????

 

[anal itch]

get another what??????

endo dr

 

[jronimoe15]

endo dr

OH.......that reply was meant for Slatl.................my doc is great!!!!

 

[jronimoe15]

bro pct is needed for sure with any aas. you can run hcg during 500ius a week when testes start to atrophy. that is personal preference. i dont' know about hrt so i can't tell you with regard to that. i would do this
600mg eq 1-14 weeks
60-100mg var 1-8 weeks
pct two weeks after last var shot.
you'll want some tylers liver detox and drink a lot of water. yes var at the begining of the cycle is a great way to go because you'll feel it 2-3 weeks in whereas eq is like 6 weeks to kick in. free var, my lord you are lucky

I understand that PCT is needed...............but therapy, how much, and when do I start???

 

[Mr.X]

jronimoe15, first, what did your doctor say? I don't want to provide advice contrary to a medical professional - remember, you want to talk to your doctor first if he's the one taking care of you for HRT.

 

[jronimoe15]

jronimoe15, first, what did your doctor say? I don't want to provide advice contrary to a medical professional - remember, you want to talk to your doctor first if he's the one taking care of you for HRT.

Mr. X..........my doc said he doesn't know enough about AAS dosage, as far as what i'm using it for........but that if i plan on doing AAS with the HRT, he will monitor my blood work.......he also said he would do some research as well. He knows a lot about oxandrin, which he often prescribes to his older patients becasue of low sides. As you can see by all of my questions, i'm trying to get as much information as possible so i can tell him as well. He in no way condones what i'm doing, but he would rather me be honest with him than not. In that regard, he is an extremely concerned doctor.

 

[Bruce]

sorry i meant eq shot not var shot,
i run hcg 500-1000ius for 10 straight days 2 weeks after last eq shot, along with 20mg of nolva ed for 6 weeks, and clomid at 50mg ed for 3 weeks, 2 sprays of aifm throughout the whole pct

 

[jronimoe15]

sorry i meant eq shot not var shot,
i run hcg 500-1000ius for 10 straight days 2 weeks after last eq shot, along with 20mg of nolva ed for 6 weeks, and clomid at 50mg ed for 3 weeks, 2 sprays of aifm throughout the whole pct

great info so far.............but i did pose a lot of quesions................any other mods or bros got feedback for me??

 

[Bruce]

what other questions do you have

 

[jronimoe15]

what other questions do you have

read my initial post so i don't have to rewrite all the questions...................thanks.

 

[Bruce]

your hdl and ldl levels will go back to normal after the var is done. no hgh will not help with it. you will need tylers and protein, nothing else is necessary. hcg is used during cycle to keep testes at normal size, on hrt i would think this is unnecessary, as stated the doctor is the only one that can tell you if you should do that. i would run the var at 100mg ed personally, the strength gains are unrivaled, its free so enjoy. i don't see anyother questions that haven't been answered

 

[jronimoe15]

jronimoe15, first, what did your doctor say? I don't want to provide advice contrary to a medical professional - remember, you want to talk to your doctor first if he's the one taking care of you for HRT.

X............I look forward to your feedback bro.

Along with the questions in my orgianl post, do you think the GH i'm taking, even at low doses, will increase the effects of the VAR/EQ cycle? I know i asked a lot of questions in this post, but i have to get answers from the best sources.....................EF is indeed that.

 

[jronimoe15]

your hdl and ldl levels will go back to normal after the var is done. no hgh will not help with it. you will need tylers and protein, nothing else is necessary. hcg is used during cycle to keep testes at normal size, on hrt i would think this is unnecessary, as stated the doctor is the only one that can tell you if you should do that. i would run the var at 100mg ed personally, the strength gains are unrivaled, its free so enjoy. i don't see anyother questions that haven't been answered

DHb apmplifier..............is it a bunch of bullshit????

Thanks for all your feedback bro....................

 

[Bruce]

yes gh will increase the effects of var/eq. gh doesn't do much on its own but with steroids added it will give great gains.

 

[jronimoe15]

yes gh will increase the effects of var/eq. gh doesn't do much on its own but with steroids added it will give great gains.

thanks bruce410,really appreciate the feedback......................DHb apmplifier, bullshit or legit?????

 

[Bruce]

thanks bruce410,really appreciate the feedback......................DHb apmplifier, bullshit or legit?????

probably bullshit. look bro, eq/var is a killer cycle, very similar to what i am doing. the only thing i would add is proviron but i'm not on hrt. eat right, train hard, and kill that shit. you should be very happy with the results

 

[jronimoe15]

yes gh will increase the effects of var/eq. gh doesn't do much on its own but with steroids added it will give great gains.

DHb apmplifier..................your thoughts bruce410

 

[Bruce]

i think its bullshit bro

 

[jronimoe15]

i think its bullshit bro

thanks bruce410.

 

[Bruce]

No problem

 

[Mr.X]

August 1, i'm starting a cycle of EQ/Var (got script for Var - $25 copay for 270 10mg pills....wow), planning on running Var for 8 weeks, EQ for 12 to 16 weeks. I've already got some feedback from some of you, but looking for a little more due to differing opinions. I'm already on HRT, taking .4mg/norditropin, 5 days per week, and my doc has suggested that i take low dose HCG 2/week to boost testosterone as part of the therapy. Everyone seems to love Var, but the recommended doses vary. With my script, i can take 50mg/day or 100mg/day. Additionally, does Dhb Anabolic Amplifier actually work? I haven't heard to many bros talk about throwing it in with their cycles. My questions are as follows:

stats: 6'0, 205, 35...........5 to 7 cycles, mostly while playing football in college. probably 3 cycles between 25 and 35 years old.

1. 12 or 16 weeks of EQ, and at what dose? With 10mg pills of Var, how should those be split up throughout the day?

2. Var for first 8 weeks, or last (i've heard so many different things, here, but it seems like the last would be best when the EQ is kicking in for synergistic effect.

3. I've heard that no PCT is needed for Var/EQ.........I don't believe this. What should i take and when should i start taking it?

4. What effect will the low dose HCG have if i take it throughtout my cycle as part of my HRT? Should i even take it while on my cycle?

5. Should any supps besides protein, tyler's detox.....like creatine, nitrix, DHb apmplifier, etc., be taken while on a cylce??

6. Will my HDL/LDL profiles return to normal after taking VAR??? Is there anything to take to prevent this................i.e Sesapure??????? Or will the HGH help with that?

7. Is it safe to run trex, sesapure, levorex, gluc, YES with this cycle???

8. I'M FINALLY FINISHED ASKING QUESTIONS...............UNLESS THERE IS ANYTHING ELSE YOU WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE.........LOL!!!!

EF and all the bros on here are the fucking shit..............i've always respected, and followed all the advice given on here.

I highly suggest you find a qualified doctor to give you professional medical advice if you’re going on long-term HRT/TRT.

Since your current doctor is not 100% sure about anabolic use, I would like to suggest a testosterone base on your cycle. EQ and anavar is great, but I would much rather see you run test enanthate with anavar, then EQ with anavar. Ideally, if I could force you to do something, I would just force you to do a straight test cycle . However, I know you want to run the anavar and will end up running it no matter what I say. I found that test base cycles are best, especially when you are, in a sense, doing your own TRT.

A TRT dose of 250mgs of test enan per week with 10-20mg of anavar per day would be enough for TRT/HRT purposes. Your PCT (post cycle therapy) is not going to be black and white because we don’t know when you will end your HRT/TRT. In general, HRT can last for years; some older men (60+) can stay on HRT/TRT for 10+ years easily. Therefore, there would not be any “post cycle” per se, as you would not be ‘off’ your cycle at any particular time.

Read more about HCG here:
Jenetic's HCG info
HCG Information

Your supplement intake should be like with any regular health regiment. Daily taurine, potassium and magnesium intake is a must. Along with multi-vitamins/mineras and healthy EFAs. EFA – essential fatty acids, think flaxseed oil etc… The best combination of EFAs out there is UDO’s choice, it has everything you need. You can google and find the best deal on it I’m sure.

Remember, a big part of HRT/TRT is done for long-term health reasons. Thus, you want to keep a clean, healthy diet and an active lifestyle - cardio, training, sports, outdoor activity etc...

 

[Bruce]

yea i don't understand hrt with a vet steroid either X

 

[jronimoe15]

I highly suggest you find a qualified doctor to give you professional medical advice if you’re going on long-term HRT/TRT.

Since your current doctor is not 100% sure about anabolic use, I would like to suggest a testosterone base on your cycle. EQ and anavar is great, but I would much rather see you run test enanthate with anavar, then EQ with anavar. Ideally, if I could force you to do something, I would just force you to do a straight test cycle . However, I know you want to run the anavar and will end up running it no matter what I say. I found that test base cycles are best, especially when you are, in a sense, doing your own TRT.

A TRT dose of 250mgs of test enan per week with 10-20mg of anavar per day would be enough for TRT/HRT purposes. Your PCT (post cycle therapy) is not going to be black and white because we don’t know when you will end your HRT/TRT. In general, HRT can last for years; some older men (60+) can stay on HRT/TRT for 10+ years easily. Therefore, there would not be any “post cycle” per se, as you would not be ‘off’ your cycle at any particular time.

Read more about HCG here:
Jenetic's HCG info
HCG Information

Your supplement intake should be like with any regular health regiment. Daily taurine, potassium and magnesium intake is a must. Along with multi-vitamins/mineras and healthy EFAs. EFA – essential fatty acids, think flaxseed oil etc… The best combination of EFAs out there is UDO’s choice, it has everything you need. You can google and find the best deal on it I’m sure.

Remember, a big part of HRT/TRT is done for long-term health reasons. Thus, you want to keep a clean, healthy diet and an active lifestyle - cardio, training, sports, outdoor activity etc...

X, the only AS my doc knows i'm thinking about running is Anavar/Oxandrin. I told him that i was doing research on what to do with it. He does know about test, he prescribes that all the time, along with HGH, and oxandrin. The idea of EQ is mine because i have so much of it............just sitting here ready to be used. additionally, i've always loved EQ. i always thought there were lower sides with EQ as opposed to Test, which is another reason i wanted to run it. as far as the HRT.........i pretty much plan on taking it the rest of my life at these low doses due to my low levels, so once my cycle is done, i will continue on with the HGH therapy. my doc attributes that to my numerous concussions during college football. he said my IGF levels are that of a 60 year old man, yet my test levels are fine. he said that head trauma that effects the pituatary, as well as surgeries, etc., can effect hormone production................does that help? i know you prefer test instead of EQ, but will it make that much of a difference???

Bruce410....................my doc did not prescribe EQ as part of my HRT.

 

[Mr.X]

X, the only AS my doc knows i'm thinking about running is Anavar/Oxandrin. I told him that i was doing research on what to do with it. He does know about test, he prescribes that all the time, along with HGH, and oxandrin. The idea of EQ is mine because i have so much of it............just sitting here ready to be used. additionally, i've always loved EQ. i always thought there were lower sides with EQ as opposed to Test, which is another reason i wanted to run it. as far as the HRT.........i pretty much plan on taking it the rest of my life at these low doses due to my low levels, so once my cycle is done, i will continue on with the HGH therapy. my doc attributes that to my numerous concussions during college football. he said my IGF levels are that of a 60 year old man, yet my test levels are fine. he said that head trauma that effects the pituatary, as well as surgeries, etc., can effect hormone production................does that help? i know you prefer test instead of EQ, but will it make that much of a difference???

Bruce410....................my doc did not prescribe EQ as part of my HRT.

Like I said, I would prefer to see you on a straight test cycle for your HRT/TRT. I wouldn't use EQ or anavar (if it was up to me).

 

[jronimoe15]

Like I said, I would prefer to see you on a straight test cycle for your HRT/TRT. I wouldn't use EQ or anavar (if it was up to me).

X - the only thing i am using for my HRT is HGH................which i will continue to use for a long time. the EQ/Var cycle is just something i wanted to run because i have it...............i don't plan on running EQ/Var after the 12/16 week cycle.............only the HGH will be long term.

Now, having said that, will it be ok to run that cycle???? EQ/Var is not my HRT