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what pissess me off is everyone singing andy pettitte's praises
"he's so honest" etc
fuck liar, claiming to have done a one day cycle of h/gh...lol, who does one day cycle's of hg/h? half truths are worse than outright lies imo
 
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No shit Vag. And what about that dirtball who kept syringes for 5 years, and then narked out Clemens wife, just out of spite.
 
Vagabino said:
what pissess me off is everyone singing andy pettitte's praises
"he's so honest" etc
fuck liar, claiming to have done a one day cycle of human growth hormone - somatropin - ...lol, who does one day cycle's of human growth hormone - somatropin - ?
half truths are worse than outright lies imo
i'm torn, over the whole situation. it's hard being subjected to a legend being dismantled; but on the other hand, how many other sandlot & mendoza type players would be smashing records with that type of enhancement. can't wait for the guys to chime in with the "how does juice help you hit a baseball?" well, it fucking does...
 
jestro said:
No shit Vag. And what about that dirtball who kept syringes for 5 years, and then narked out Clemens wife, just out of spite.
that's what happens when your back is against a wall...the classic snitch move.
everyone says they wouldn't do something like that...but when faced with long prison sentences, most will crack and cut a deal.
i feel no angst towards mcnammee, he's saving his own ass in a cutthroat situation...if the tables were turned clemens would have no problem owning macnamee
 
H_T_ said:
i'm torn, over the whole situation. it's hard being subjected to a legend being dismantled; but on the other hand, how many other sandlot & mendoza type players would be smashing records with that type of enhancement. can't wait for the guys to chime in with the "how does juice help you hit a baseball?" well, it fucking does...

yeah the jooser online crowd has been pretty mute about this issue...i kinda thought there would be more pro-clemens type of threads.
but everyone is turning their back on him...imo, the worst thing that clemens joosing does is set a terrible precedent for youth wanting to ball like him.
athletes have a lotta pull with kids...how many kids see carlos gullien dipping and think it's cool? it'll be the same thing with a/as
 
none of these dudes should compare themselves to the men who held the records they broke before the juice ball era....
 
Vagabino said:
what pissess me off is everyone singing andy pettitte's praises
"he's so honest" etc
fuck liar, claiming to have done a one day cycle of h/gh - growth hormone (somatropin) - ...lol, who does one day cycle's of human growth hormone - somatropin - /h? half truths are worse than outright lies imo
exactly
and then sold out his former teammate and friend
Clemens isn't the scalawag in this deal
 
Steroid use has been rampant in high school baseball LOOOONG before this scandal. I had teammates "on" when I was a freshman in high school and that was 94 and it wasn't a new thing. So I don't doubt that more young baseball players "may" be more inclined to use but I don't think this new scandal can be labeled the reason why youths are taking them
 
Demorcrates took control of Congress with promises of impeaching Bush/Cheney, and getting us out of Iraq - LOL.
Instead they're focusing on steroids in baseball - what a bunch of fuck ups.
Let athletes do what it takes to be competitive.
 
Am I the only one who wants Clemminlie to get off scot free. For no other reason than Congress wasting our fucking time and shit with this.
 
Why did the guy narc him out anyway? What was in it for him?

Why did his dumb shit lawyer tell him to testify? He should have plead the fifth all the way! Holy shit, that was retarded. The evidence that they have against him is the word of a dealer, basically, and some syringes/guaze of dubious origin. There is no chain of custody for those items, so any lawyer worth her/his salt could get that shit excluded. I don't see how having OLD blood on a syringe/guaze would prove anything anyway, even if it were allowed into evidence. He already admitted that he gave him B12 shots or some crap. Any of that evidence could have been tampered with.

Plus, what a waste of friggin time, energy, and money to have a stupid hearing about steroids in baseball. Give me a damn break. We have bigger issues on the agenda, like the war, like the economy, hell just about a zillion things before I would focus on drugs in baseball.
 
heatherrae said:
Why did the guy narc him out anyway? What was in it for him?

Why did his dumb shit lawyer tell him to testify? He should have plead the fifth all the way! Holy shit, that was retarded. The evidence that they have against him is the word of a dealer, basically, and some syringes/guaze of dubious origin. There is no chain of custody for those items, so any lawyer worth her/his salt could get that shit excluded. I don't see how having OLD blood on a syringe/guaze would prove anything anyway, even if it were allowed into evidence. He already admitted that he gave him B12 shots or some crap. Any of that evidence could have been tampered with.

Plus, what a waste of friggin time, energy, and money to have a stupid hearing about steroids in baseball. Give me a damn break. We have bigger issues on the agenda, like the war, like the economy, hell just about a zillion things before I would focus on drugs in baseball.

now they have his best friend, andy pettitte, saying clemens was a h/gh user
clemens is fucked
 
Vagabino said:
now they have his best friend, andy pettitte, saying clemens was a h/gh user
clemens is fucked
What year did this occur? I can't believe anyone wants to go after these old charges.

Also, why did the dealer rat on him? Is he trying to sell a book? Was he offered immunity for dealing if he ratted on the players, or what? I haven't been following the story too much.
 
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