mental allertness and improved memory

[seventieschile']

i am trying to find an herbal supplements that helps to: 1. increase mental allertness and 2. improve memory. if anyone has suggestions or better yet personal experience with products that benefit either area i'd certainly appreciate a response. thanks for all the great advice.

 

[SofaGeorge]

Get the books SMART DRUGS AND NUTRIENTS and SMART DRUGS II by John Morganthaler and Ward Dean (and Steve Fowkes.)

My personal fave is DMAE.

 

[diamonddiceclay]

for mental alertness use ephedra or caffeine

 

[johnboy]

No don't use caffeine.

Dude get you some ginko Biloba, ginseng and order some PIRACETAM (Nootropil) from a pharmacy in europe. Piracetam kicks ass ! that shit will bump your mental alertness and your IQ. I shit you not, do a search on www.google.com and read all of the info on this stuff. Its GREAT !

 

[Bar Room Hero]

Crystal Meth gives me a mental and physical boost.

 

[seventieschile']

mental allertness

hey that piracetam sounds very interesting. i just got done doing some research and i am definitely interested. does anyone out there have personal experience using the product? and where do i order it at the best price?

 

[johnboy]

its all over the net. do a search

I order mine from the uk. They say that it is best to take like 4000mg/first day then 800mg 3xday after that. I love this shit, I am a network engineer and I use my brain all day. This shit helps BIG time.


www.smart-drugs.com they have a lot of info on smart drugs. Just don't go ordering everything out there. Make sure you read about it first. Some things you can't mix. little advice... SSRI's do not make you smarter. They fog the hell out of your memory. Or at least they do mine.

dude just run a search on www.google.com on smart drugs and you will have more info then you can take in.

 

[DaMan]

Piracetam @ 4800mg/ED (frontload @ 2xdosage for 3days)
Hydergine @ 6mg/ED
DMAE @ 300mg/ED
Choline @ 800mg+ED
Deprenyl, but experiment w/ dosages (start @ 5mg E3D)
Vasopressin 1 spray in each nostril - if you can get your hands on Vasopressin, that is - Desmopressin (synthetic) is not an alternative.

Forget about Gingko unless you're over 40 or suffering from Alzheimer's.

 

[barnidge]

Anyone have experience with **'s Piracetam?

 

[Mr.Dank]

Piracetam @ 4800mg/ED (frontload @ 2xdosage for 3days)
Hydergine @ 6mg/ED
DMAE @ 300mg/ED
Choline @ 800mg+ED
Deprenyl, but experiment w/ dosages (start @ 5mg E3D)
Vasopressin 1 spray in each nostril - if you can get your hands on Vasopressin, that is - Desmopressin (synthetic) is not an alternative.

Forget about Gingko unless you're over 40 or suffering from Alzheimer's.

Have you used these with good results?
I’m curious about the Deprenyl? hows that?

Piracetam @ 4800mg/ED is kinda expensive, I tried a lower dose but didn’t really get anything. I wasn’t using choline with it ether. I hear that necessary.
I got some desmopressin....It did nothing

 

[Riker29]

Piracetam @ 4800mg/ED (frontload @ 2xdosage for 3days)
Hydergine @ 6mg/ED
DMAE @ 300mg/ED
Choline @ 800mg+ED
Deprenyl, but experiment w/ dosages (start @ 5mg E3D)
Vasopressin 1 spray in each nostril - if you can get your hands on Vasopressin, that is - Desmopressin (synthetic) is not an alternative.

Forget about Gingko unless you're over 40 or suffering from Alzheimer's.

Jeezus christ! Thats like telling a newbie to take 1.5Gs of Test a week! LOL

I suggest that anyone who wants to try snart drugs start at a lower dose.

And yes, Piracetam works much better when taken with DMAE and Choline. In fact if you do NOT take those, you get very cranky on Piracetam alone.

 

[chillin408]

Gingko biloba, Vinpocetine, Galantamine,Dmae,NADH, SaME, etc.(there are many more than don't come to mind at the moment) are all available in the US.

My personal experiences:

Gingko Biloba/Vinpocetine supplement gave me a headache.

NADH may have had an effect, but may have just been a placebo. It was very difficult for me to detect an effect and distinguish it from placebo.

Piracetam was distinguishable from placebo, but I did not get a smart drug effect when using it, but it did improve workout performance occasionally in very high doses (near 4 grams) when I took it with hydergine (also high doses 9 mg) and DMAE.

SaME was great. It improved my sleep, mood, and caused a general sense of well-being. I also noticed that it also caused me to be totally unmotivated to do anything that I normally would do, like homework, so I immediately quit. I'm in the middle of school, so I can't risk not studying.

Aniracetam and Lucidril had no noticeable effect, but I only took them for one day. I have also tried nicotine patches (7mg ones), but didn't notice anything. The very low dose and very sustained release setup of the patches may have been a contributing factor.

 

[Hugh Gellatts]

try the biotest powerdrive...it has l-tyrosine, dmae and ginko. i have used piracetam, ritalin, etc, but like powerdrive better. you have to take it on an empty stomch for it to work.

you can get it real cheap at muscleshoppe.com

 

[Charles Ray]

Dude just take one or both of these supplements and u'll see a difference. Take B-12 1000mcg time released or injection and/or 600-1000mg Calcium a day for at least 3 weeks. Also try to remember your dreams as soon as you wake up. Do more cardio...can't stress that enough..it's been proven to increase memory. Don't mess with the other stuff cuz it'll make your body dependent on it. Try this first(at least 3 weeks) if it doesn't work then move on to other things.

 

[Gman]

I tried Piracetam a while back, sorta reminded me of drinking a cup of coffee.. but not worth the time or money so I stopped taking it. I also tried Deprenyl - this stuff made me feel great, VERY postive mood change, better sex, etc.. but I too stopped taking that when I heard it is a drug that can lead to the "aged cheese effect". If I remember right, if you eat or drink anything that contains lots of l-tyrosine (Wine, lots of beer, aged cheese and numerous other things) it can lead to a severe increase in your blood pressure.. and you can.. well die..

Until I'm done drinking, I'd skip it and save what I have.

Gman

 

[michaelt]

l-tyrosine also interacts with stjohns wart, and other MOA inhibitors.

 

[Mo T 4 Me]

I tried Piracetam a while back, sorta reminded me of drinking a cup of coffee.. but not worth the time or money so I stopped taking it. I also tried Deprenyl - this stuff made me feel great, VERY postive mood change, better sex, etc.. but I too stopped taking that when I heard it is a drug that can lead to the "aged cheese effect". If I remember right, if you eat or drink anything that contains lots of l-tyrosine (Wine, lots of beer, aged cheese and numerous other things) it can lead to a severe increase in your blood pressure.. and you can.. well die..

Until I'm done drinking, I'd skip it and save what I have.

Gman

I think it's tyramine instead of tyrosine.