Mediterrean History 101

[HULKSTER]

MEDITERREAN HISTORY 101, FOR THOSE UNEDUCATED EF MEMBERS

I'm talking about that thread in the Chat Forum yesterday where multiple EF members described my fellow Italians as having "n**** blood". Now I'm not trying to be rascist myself---for then I would be a hypocrite---but Italians are fiercely protective of being Italian. Having mixed blood, whether it be black, arab, French, German, Irish, etc., is looked down upon by my fellow Italians as making that particular Italian a mongrel, or a "wonder bread wop". Yes, the Moors did conquer Sicily, but ONLY SICILY. Sicily was a seperate kingdom (Kingdom of Sicily) until 1870, when Sicily was unified with mainland Italy by King Victor Emmanuel I, after nationalistic Italians, led by Gusieppe Garibaldi, drove out the French and Austrian occupiers of Italy.

So until 1870, Sicily WASN'T EVEN PART OF ITALY!!!! And well before that time, had only been joined with Italy during the times of the Roman Republic/Empire. Additionally, Sicily is considered to be the most conquered land on Earth. It was conquered by the Visigoths (white people), Lumbards (white people), Greeks (white people), mainland Italians, as well as Moors. And for those uneducated fools, Moors are not black, THEY ARE ARABS, deriving from the Berber tribes of North Africa. Furthermore, Moors/Berbers THEMSELVES are greatly insulted when referred to as being black.

In conclusion, Sicilians have French, Northern Italian, Greek, German, Arab, etc. blood in them. So to call them black in any way is ignorant. Also, mainland Italians (such as were my ancestors), make up virtually the entire Italian population, and MOORS NEVER CONQUERED, LET ALONE SET FOOT, on mainland Italy. So the statements made by numerous EF members that Italians have some black blood, OR EVEN MOORISH BLOOD, is completely false, rascist propaganda.

P.S.---I submitted this originally to the MOD WODIN through a PM, and he said it was okay to post it.

 

[WODIN]

Yeah but I asked you politely to tone it down. Jebus!!!!!!

"I am impressed with your knowledge of history. Kudos to you bro.
.......
If you would like to post a thread about the history of the Mediterainin region then I think it would be very welcome. We can further incorporate discussions on how those events have lead to todays current world situation."

 

[WODIN]

Oh and title of the thread....maybe something like a brief history of Italy...or something like that. LOL!!!

 

[HULKSTER]

As per my PM to you, I have modified the one or two inflammatory remarks---LEAVING JUST THE FACTS.

 

[WODIN]

Cool Hulkster.

Pic up "What went wrong" for a very topical analysis of current events in relationship to the History of the Mediteranian and Islamic regions.

 

[HG Pennypacker]

The Eyetalians are just a 1/4 notch above the Jews and Sikh Indians.

Oh yeah....and don't forget about the Puerto Ricans.

 

[WODIN]

Speaking of Puerot Ricans how is Mrs. Pennypacker and my kid doing?

 

[HULKSTER]

Cool Hulkster.

Pic up "What went wrong" for a very topical analysis of current events in relationship to the History of the Mediteranian and Islamic regions.

Wodin, this issue first came up on EF after a couple of ignorant, uneducated people stated what they thought were facts based on a brief conversation that was spoken between two actors in a HOLLYWOOD MOVIE (how moronic). And Hollywood is well known for NOT triumphing facts over their "need" to entertain moviegoers with misinformation and lies in order to make more money.

 

[HULKSTER]

I think that HG PENNYPACKER, or should I say FUDGEPACKER, is pissed off because a handsome, intelligent, cultured and sophisticated Italian stole his girl.

 

[HG Pennypacker]

1. Wishful thinking Methusula. You stopped manufacturing sperm 254 years ago.

2. If I thought there was even a 0.00001% chance that there was a drop of Italian blood in my lineage, I would have them drain my body dry and fill me up again with pure Emerald isle plasma.

3. The terms sophisticated and Italian should never be used in the same sentence.

 

[WODIN]

Fudgpacker is just making a joke...

 

[HG Pennypacker]

Fudgpacker is just making a joke...

LMAO.....are people complaining about me?

 

[WODIN]

LMAO.....are people complaining about me?

Nope just trying to insure that no one misunderstands.

 

[HULKSTER]

Hey Fudgepacker, I don't know if your ignorant, backwater, redneck punk-ass ever left the farm, but if you ever left Mayberry and traveled to Italy (as I have), you would see that virtually all of the mainland Italians have white complexions, features, etc. as do Austrians, Germans, Swiss, etc. And moron, did you ever think that the reason why Sicilians have a darker complexion compared to mainland Italians is not because of Moorish blood, but because Sicily is close to the Equator, and that Sicilians are a seafaring people who make a living from the sea? If you worked for decades on end as a fisherman in the Mediterrean, I would think that pale skin of yours would turn a bronzed color. Furthermore, Italians have produced most of the forms of government and art that the Western world---and America--- enjoys today. The Romans created the Senate, invented concrete, and created many of the irrigation, sewer, roadway and overall infrastructure systems and technology that are being used by Americans today. WHERE WOULD AMERICA BE WITHOUT CONCRETE? WITHOUT FUCKING FOUNDATIONS FOR HOMES/BUILDINGS, ROADS AND HIGHWAYS! Also, the vast majority of the art and architecture that America copies and enjoys today was influenced by the Romans and the Italian Renaissance---Rapheal, Michelangelo, Da Vinci, etc. How much sophistication and culture came from that redneck town of yours where you live?. And you say that the word sophistication and Italians should never be used in the same sentence? Last time I checked, Italians have more class, are more cultured and better dressed, and show more respect than the average white person in this country.

 

[HG Pennypacker]

Hey Fudgepacker, I don't know if your ignorant, backwater, redneck punk-ass ever left the farm, but if you ever left Mayberry and traveled to Italy (as I have), you would see that virtually all of the mainland Italians have white complexions, features, etc. as do Austrians, Germans, Swiss, etc. And moron, did you ever think that the reason why Sicilians have a darker complexion compared to mainland Italians is not because of Moorish blood, but because Sicily is close to the Equator, and that Sicilians are a seafaring people who make a living from the sea? If you worked for decades on end as a fisherman in the Mediterrean, I would think that pale skin of yours would turn a bronzed color. Furthermore, Italians have produced most of the forms of government and art that the Western world---and America--- enjoys today. The Romans created the Senate, invented concrete, and created many of the irrigation, sewer, roadway and overall infrastructure systems and technology that are being used by Americans today. WHERE WOULD AMERICA BE WITHOUT CONCRETE? WITHOUT FUCKING FOUNDATIONS FOR HOMES/BUILDINGS, ROADS AND HIGHWAYS! Also, the vast majority of the art and architecture that America copies and enjoys today was influenced by the Romans and the Italian Renaissance---Rapheal, Michelangelo, Da Vinci, etc. How much sophistication and culture came from that redneck town of yours where you live?. And you say that the word sophistication and Italians should never be used in the same sentence? Last time I checked, Italians have more class, are more cultured and better dressed, and show more respect than the average white person in this country.

First of all dude......grow a sense of humor....and a penis, while you're at it. Secondly, the "backwater" town I come from happens to be Manhattan.

Thirdly.....I took a peeps a few minutes ago and urinated out more class and culture than you'll ever have. Plus, my urine smelled like ALA, but I don't think that's relevant.

 

[HULKSTER]

You say you have class and sophistication, and yet you have as much intelligence and education about race, Italians, Moors being Arab and NOT BLACK,etc. as the average member of the Ku Klux Klan did during the 1950's.

 

[beastboy]

Itailans make a mean taco.

My only complaint about Itailans is the amount of perfume they wear.

Also, did they invent the wheel barrel?

 

[HG Pennypacker]

You say you have class and sophistication, and yet you have as much intelligence and education about race, Italians, Moors being Arab and NOT BLACK,etc. as the average member of the Ku Klux Klan did during the 1950's.

I'd like you to show me where I said Italians and Moops, etc are black. But now that I think about it...............

 

[HULKSTER]

I'd like you to show me where I said Italians and Moops, etc are black. But now that I think about it...............

I guess you're are too uneducated as to know how to read, for if you did, you would have READ MY UNDENIABLE FACTS concerning the difference between Sicilians and mainland Italians, how Moors never conquered, let alone set foot, on mainland Italy, and that Moors are Arabs, and not blacks.

YOU DID POST THAT SHIT ON THAT THREAD BY XIOXBUS, or whatever that fuckers name was who started that thread calling not only Sicilians, BUT ALL ITALIANS, as having black blood. Even though Moors are arab, only set foot in Sicily, and that the Arab Moors were just a small fraction of the total amount of peoples who conquered Sicily: Visigoths (Germans), Lumbards, Greeks, mainland Italians, etc. Also, you told me to grow a penis:

1. I'm Italian, and therefore my dick was bigger than yours the day I was born.

2. If I would still need to grow a penis, I think it would be of more importance to overall society for you to GROW A BRAIN.

 

[WODIN]

Itailans make a mean taco.

My only complaint about Itailans is the amount of perfume they wear.

Also, did they invent the wheel barrel?

The Amish-Moops invented the wheel barrel.

 

[Bullit]

My only complaint about Itailans is the amount of perfume they wear.

And thats just the guys.

 

[HULKSTER]

Itailans make a mean taco.

My only complaint about Itailans is the amount of perfume they wear.

Also, did they invent the wheel barrel?

Excuse me, Italians wear cologne, NOT PERFUME. I don't know if you live amongst a bunch of perfume-wearing San Fransciso homosexuals, but that is not my problem. Also, I live in Central Jersey, no more than a 45 minute drive from Manhattan, and we sure as hell don't drench ourselves in COLOGNE as Hispanics do. I notice that anytime, anyone, whether he is an Italian or not, wears cologne, people like you automatically say that he is "drenched", "soaked", etc. in cologne---just because you can smell it. Guess what bro, COLOGNE IS MEANT TO GIVE OFF A SMELL!!! Secondly, we don't use it to cover the odor from unbathed bodies as do a certain group of people who also live in the New Jersey/New York area.

 

[Bullit]

You wear perfume.

Admit it.

 

[beastboy]

Excuse me, Italians wear cologne, NOT PERFUME. I don't know if you live amongst a bunch of perfume-wearing San Fransciso homosexuals, but that is not my problem. Also, I live in Central Jersey, no more than a 45 minute drive from Manhattan, and we sure as hell don't drench ourselves in COLOGNE as Hispanics do. I notice that anytime, anyone, whether he is an Italian or not, wears cologne, people like you automatically say that he is "drenched", "soaked", etc. in cologne---just because you can smell it. Guess what bro, COLOGNE IS MEANT TO GIVE OFF A SMELL!!! Secondly, we don't use it to cover the odor from unbathed bodies as do a certain group of people who also live in the New Jersey/New York area.

LMFAO! You managed to bring up every stereotype. Man, I provoked that well.

Can you share the secret taco recipe? And what about the wheel barrel?

Don't get me wrong Hulkamaniac, I am glad they soak themselves in perfume...that way when they are running from a fight (as usual) I can chase their Pepe LePew ass down.

 

[HULKSTER]

LMFAO! You managed to bring up every stereotype. Man, I provoked that well.

Can you share the secret taco recipe? And what about the wheel barrel?

Don't get me wrong Hulkamaniac, I am glad they soak themselves in perfume...that way when they are running from a fight (as usual) I can chase their Pepe LePew ass down.

Overall, AFTER BLACKS, Italians are known as the strongest and toughtest street fighters. And Irishman don't count, since they can barely walk, let alone fight, after drinking themselves into a alcoholic stupor every day. LMAO! You wanted some stereotypes, you got 'em!

 

[Bullit]

Don't get me wrong Hulkamaniac, I am glad they soak themselves in perfume...that way when they are running from a fight (as usual) I can chase their Pepe LePew ass down.

LOL.

Its funny cuz its so true.

Stupid perfume wearing italians.

 

[beastboy]

Overall, AFTER BLACKS, Italians are known as the strongest and toughtest street fighters. And Irishman don't count, since they can barely walk, let alone fight, after drinking themselves into a alcoholic stupor every day. LMAO! You wanted some stereotypes, you got 'em!

I'm eskimo and I know I could kick some concrete toting asses.

 

[WODIN]

I'm eskimo and I know I could kick some concrete toting asses.

Allut or Inuit?

 

[HULKSTER]

I'm eskimo and I know I could kick some concrete toting asses.

I don't know what I've been told, but Eskimo pussy is mighty cold!

 

[HG Pennypacker]

Allut or Inuit?

Can you do me a favor and not lock this thread until I get off my conference call? I'd like to make a couple of more ridiculous comments before the thread is closed.

 

[WODIN]

Can you do me a favor and not lock this thread until I get off my conference call? I'd like to make a couple of more ridiculous comments before the thread is closed.

I wont .....cant speak for anyone else though.

 

[EF Sam]

Hey guys. Lets keep this racial stuff off the board. Regardless of good intentions or not.

I hate to sound like a babysitter, but if you kids need to be seperated.....

 

[naturally anabolic]

give them a time out!

 

[Bullit]

Hey guys. Lets keep this racial stuff off the board. Regardless

Generates an interesting question: is 'Italian' a "race" per se?

I dont think so.
I would say its an ethnicity, not a race.
Italians are of the caucasian race IMO.

 

[HULKSTER]

Bump for that moron SINISTAR, with his NAZI EMBLEM FOR AN AVATAR THAT SHOULD BE REMOVED BY EF SAM OR OTHER EF STAFF.

 

[Ffactor]

Another useless post about the Sicilians being different from "mainland" Italians. From someone who has studied a fair bit of genetics, let me tell you that there is absolutely NO difference. In fact, I would donate one of my balls if anybody could prove after doing a genetic map that "mainland" Italians and Sicilians are of a different genetic makeup.

 

[HG Pennypacker]

Hey guys. Lets keep this racial stuff off the board. Regardless of good intentions or not.

I hate to sound like a babysitter, but if you kids need to be seperated.....

This thread is quite humorous, in that the only person in this thread being racist is the one who created it. My comments were obviously tongue-in-cheek and if that wasn't obvious, Old Man River pointed it out anyway.

He's obviously biased against blacks and hispanics. I should be the one that's offended by this thread, being that my wife and daughter are Puerto Rican and the guy who toasts my bagel for me in the morning is black. I like that guy.

 

[HULKSTER]

Another useless post about the Sicilians being different from "mainland" Italians. From someone who has studied a fair bit of genetics, let me tell you that there is absolutely NO difference. In fact, I would donate one of my balls if anybody could prove after doing a genetic map that "mainland" Italians and Sicilians are of a different genetic makeup.

THEN GIVE ME ONE OF YOUR BALLS! The first group of people to conquer SICILY, AND SICILY alone (not mainland Italy) were the GREEKS! And they stayed there for almost 2 THOUSAND YEARS before the Roman Armies defeated the Greeks. So for TWO THOUSAND YEARS, THE GREEKS GENETICALLY INTEGRATED/BREEDED WITH THE ORIGINAL, INDEGINOUS SICILIAN POPULATION. So there you go, FFactor! So when will you be sending me your nut?

HISTORY IS HISTORY! ANY COLLEGE PROFESSOR OR HISTORIAN WILL COMPLETELY VERIFY WHAT I JUST STATED! TRUTH HURTS!

 

[HULKSTER]

This thread is quite humorous, in that the only person in this thread being racist is the one who created it. My comments were obviously tongue-in-cheek and if that wasn't obvious, Old Man River pointed it out anyway.

He's obviously biased against blacks and hispanics. I should be the one that's offended by this thread, being that my wife and daughter are Puerto Rican and the guy who toasts my bagel for me in the morning is black. I like that guy.

Excuse me punk, but I made those comments in humor after YOU, NOT ME, made NUMEROUS DERAGOTORY REMARKS ABOUT ITALIANS! You started the ball rolling, so face the consequences.

 

[Mad4Iron]

Overall, AFTER BLACKS, Italians are known as the strongest and toughtest street fighters. And Irishman don't count, since they can barely walk, let alone fight, after drinking themselves into a alcoholic stupor every day. LMAO! You wanted some stereotypes, you got 'em!

Dude after I sober up I'm gonna fuck you up.

Mad

 

[beastboy]

Generates an interesting question: is 'Italian' a "race" per se?

I dont think so.
I would say its an ethnicity, not a race.
Italians are of the caucasian race IMO.

Shoot me now.

 

[Ffactor]

And how does this verify that the genetics are different between Sicilians and "mainland" Italians. Are you saying that they are all Greek now!

 

[HULKSTER]

And how does this verify that the genetics are different between Sicilians and "mainland" Italians. Are you saying that they are all Greek now!

Since the Greeks, Visigoths, Lumbards, Arab Moor, etc. ALL BREEDED with the original, indeginous Sicilian population for THOUSANDS of years, well, then yes, the average Sicilian's genetic makeup is now vastly different than that of the average Neopolitan, MAINLAND ITALIAN. Once again, study history, not the ignorant statement of that redneck, Swastika waving Nazi a.k.a. Sinistar. For all the bullshit from these Nazis and their sympathizers, you are all the most uneducated, powerless and poorest white people in America. Proof is in the pudding, and you Nazi Skinheads don't know shit about shit!

 

[havoc]

Seriously, who here wipes there ass with baby wipes?

 

[beastboy]

Since the Greeks, Visigoths, Lumbards, Arab Moor, etc. ALL BREEDED with the original, indeginous Sicilian population for THOUSANDS of years, well, then yes, the average Sicilian's genetic makeup is now vastly different than that of the average Neopolitan, MAINLAND ITALIAN. Once again, study history, not the ignorant statement of that redneck, Swastika waving Nazi a.k.a. Sinistar. For all the bullshit from these Nazis and their sympathizers, you are all the most uneducated, powerless and poorest white people in America. Proof is in the pudding, and you Nazi Skinheads don't know shit about shit!

Idiot.

 

[whatevrmn]

Hulkster, please clear something up for me. Are you an American or an Italian? If you're an American, i.e. you were born here, or your parents were born here, you're really going to piss off some people around here. Here's how I view it: my forefathers went through all kinds of hell to come to America. They didn't want to be Irish, they wanted to be American and have American children. The moment I start bringing up where they came and saying that I'm Irish completely undermines their sacrifices to come to this great country. Regardless, I am 100% American and damn proud, too.

 

[Bullit]

Shoot me now.

Love to.

 

[HULKSTER]

Idiot.

I'm the idiot? I've presented the UNDENIABLE FACTS ABOUT ITALIAN AND MEDITERREAN HISTORY concerning mainland Italians, Sicilians, Moors, etc. and people like you, FFactor and Sinistar keep spouting off you ignorant, backwater, redneck Nazi Skinhead crap. Stop pushing the plow, hang your white hood up on the coat rack, leave the backwoods of that redneck, hick town and see the world, AND THE FACTS, as they truly are. Not as the Grand Master of your local KKK chapter tells them to you all.

 

[WODIN]

Seriously, who here wipes there ass with baby wipes?

Baby wipes are da bomb ditty! No lie!!!