Med Test results after 1st cycle!

[HEALTHFREAK]

Well boys I learned the most valuable lesson, and you can say "I told you so" because I totally deserve it. After wondering why my sex drive sucked and my balls were still small, and why I was getting fat after always having a good metabolism, I was storing fat in my chest and lower waist and love handles ( never had them before)!!!!!! I decided to get a few tests done. All in all my blood tests were not bad. My ldl and hdl cholesterol levels were off a bit, and my creatinine levels were up, but very minor. BUT, my fucking test level is 37~!!!!!! , normal range is 241-827!!!! Yes I am a retard, I only did 1 week of clomid, a little tribulus, no anti e, no proviron, and no hcg after my cycle. CAN YOU SAY CRASH!! I am suppose to start my new cycle today, after 2 months off, consisting of sus 250, 1AD, deca, winny and liquidex. Anyone know if it is ok to start with my natural test levels being so low?? POST CYCLE THERAPY, HOW COULD I HAVE BEEN SO DUMB??? Quick help is needed, please!!

 

[Zyglamail]

there are many who cycle year round, but they also compete. If your just a weekend warrior, I would wait but thats you call. Here is what I personally would do.

If I were to start another cycle with levels such as yours, I would also do a couple weeks hcg asap. Then, I would use anastrozole or letrozole during cycle and until done with post cycle clomid therapy(300mg day 1, 100mg for 10 days followed by 50mg for 10 days) additionally I would run HCG again during the last 2 weeks of cycle.

If I opted not to cycle I would run HCG for 2 weeks and when done I would run anastrozole/letrozole as well as another run(as outlined above) with clomid, wait a few weeks and get blood work done again.

 

[LONE_AZ]

This is exactly why I think six weeks or more Novaldex 20mg ED post cycle is always a good idea with or without Clomid. One or two weeks of Clomid just doesn’t cut it. How can anyone possibly think that when you have decreased testicular mass that you balls will respond to LH? You need to increase testicular mass with HCG the last two weeks of your cycle while using Nolvaldex 40 mg ED then after two weeks down to 20 mg ED there after for at least six weeks. Then use in the Clomid two weeks post and you will respond better to the increase in LH. This would only be neccessary in cases were you have decreased testicular mass.

 

[haxedout]

cant you just start popping clomid..?

 

[Twitched]

there are many who cycle year round, but they also compete. If your just a weekend warrior, I would wait but thats you call. Here is what I personally would do.

If I were to start another cycle with levels such as yours, I would also do a couple weeks hcg asap. Then, I would use anastrozole or letrozole during cycle and until done with post cycle clomid therapy(300mg day 1, 100mg for 10 days followed by 50mg for 10 days) additionally I would run HCG again during the last 2 weeks of cycle.

If I opted not to cycle I would run HCG for 2 weeks and when done I would run anastrozole/letrozole as well as another run(as outlined above) with clomid, wait a few weeks and get blood work done again.

This is good advice. The question is, will it be followed?

 

[LONE_AZ]

Great advice.. Just include some Nolvaldex with the HCG…..

 

[pa1ad]

This is exactly why I think six weeks or more Novaldex 20mg ED post cycle is always a good idea with or without Clomid. One or two weeks of Clomid just doesn’t cut it. How can anyone possibly think that when you have decreased testicular mass that you balls will respond to LH? You need to increase testicular mass with HCG the last two weeks of your cycle while using Nolvaldex 40 mg ED then after two weeks down to 20 mg ED there after for at least six weeks

HCG is an LH mimic so if your balls don't respond to LH why would they respond to HCG?

I think what you meant to say is the amount of LH from clomid is insufficient to stimulate atrophied balls and you need large amounts of gonadotropin - like which can be delivered by HCG shots

 

[LONE_AZ]

Yes that is what I was trying to say. Thank you for clarifying my point. Normally sized testicles will respond much better to clomid therapy. HCG will accomplish this at a rapid rate but Novaldex is need to counteract the estrogen rise as well.