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March 19, 2003

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Operation Iraqi Freedom!

Weather and Sandstorms possible delay!
 
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Kind of off-topic but that MOAB bomb that is being developed, will it be ready to use on Iraq or do we have to save it until further testing?
 
dcup

Kind of off-topic but that MOAB bomb that is being developed, will it be ready to use on Iraq or do we have to save it until further testing?

After it's test the Pentagon said it would be ready for use later in the year meaning months. How ever every thing is on the table for this war! Odds are they will use it even if it is not completly ready! Just like the thermoberic bomb in Ahganistan! It was still in the testing phase! I dont know the arsonal numbers either! That may have been the only one built so far! May be just a phycological weapon for now.

Ask Jnuts he might now for sure! But even if it is not ready and they have some in the arsonal, I think they will use it, if the battle field conditions warrent it! It wont be as easy as the Gulf War though! Iraqi troops are spread out and are in civilian areas! But if they drop it in unpopulated areas near the Iraqi troops, it will mess with there heads and cause them to shit their pants!
 
It's still a go for Shock and Awe! Roll out speeding up to deadline!

This is
LONDON
19/03/03 - War on Iraq section

The war has started
By Robert Fox, Defence Correspondent and David Taylor, Evening Standard

British and American troops were involved in fierce fighting near Iraq's main port today as the war to topple Saddam Hussein began.

The firefight broke out near Basra as men of the Special Boat Service targeted the strategically vital city and the oilfields in southern Iraq.

At the same time allied troops were flooding into the demilitarised zone on the Iraqi border with Kuwait 40 miles away to take up positions for an all-out invasion.

Cruise missiles were also loaded onto B52 bombers at RAF Fairford in Gloucestershire, a clear sign that the bombardment of Baghdad could be only hours away.

British troops taking up "forward battle positions" were ordered to switch off satellite phones and allied warplanes bombed targets in Iraq after coming under fire in the no-fly zone.

By lunchtime, allied forces were in position to strike from the moment the 48-hour deadline set by President Bush for Saddam to quit Iraq expires at 1am British time tomorrow. But the White House had refused to rule out a strike before that.

The fighting reported at Basra was believed to involve British special forces and US marines in an operation to prepare landing sites for amphibious craft during an invasion.

Other special units were deep inside Iraq on secret operations to prepare landing strips in the desert for airborne troops.

Basra, Iraq's only seaport, lies on the Shatt al Arab waterway where the Tigris and the Euphrates open into the northern Gulf.

Surrounded by treacherous sandbanks and marshes it is difficult to approach from the sea.

Artillery, infantry and the tanks of the 7th Armoured Brigade had already moved into Forming Up Positions, and some were already on the start line.

An attack could target Basra and proceed up alongside the Euphrates towards the strategic cities of Nasariya, Najaf and Karbala.

Tony Blair said he believed all MPs, irrespective of their views on the war, now wished British troops well.

"I know everyone in this House wishes our Armed Forces well," he said in the Commons.

A sandstorm whipped across northern Kuwait as the pace of preparations suddenly quickened Kuwaiti security sources disclosed that allied troops move into the demilitarised zone, which straddles the Iraq-Kuwait border, at around 11am local time, 8am UK time.

The source, working in the Umm Qasr area in the east of the zone, said: "American convoys are still driving towards Umm Qasr."

A US military spokesman said he could not confirm or deny that troops were inside the zone.

A British Army spokesman said only that soldiers had taken up " forward battle positions".

At Fairford, 14 giant American B52 bombers which will lead the fight against Saddam were loaded up with cruise missiles this morning.

The first flight of B52s were expected to take off two hours before sunset to give them enough flying time to identify their targets and drop their first devastating payload before heading for home.

The missiles were driven to the aircraft in five articulated lorries escorted by police at 10.30am.

Troops meticulously loaded the weapons - each costing around £1million - into the bomb bays by forklift truck.

With an estimated flight time of only six hours to Iraq the bombers are expected to play a huge part in the initial air bombardment. A single B52 can deliver a payload of more than 70,000lb at a range of 8,800 miles without being refuelled. They are likely to take up positions over the Mediterranean or the Red Sea to unleash cruise missiles or satelliteguided smart bombs. RAF Tornados, Harriers and Jaguars are also likely to be involved in the opening 48-hour offensive.

The Tornados will be given the specific task of taking out air defences and barracks round small missile batteries and air strips in the Iraqi desert.

This will enable the enemy positions to be quickly seized by airborne forces and turned into bases for the advancing allied armies.

The Harrier force of up to 20 planes has the job of supporting special forces, the SAS and Special Boat Service and American Rangers in the hunt for Scud missile sites and any artillery shells with chemical warheads. Intelligence suggests Saddam has given his generals personal authority to unleash the deadly weapons as a last desperate measure to hold the Allies off from attacking Baghdad.

The mainstay of the bombing attack will be the 750 American and British fighter bombers from Gulf bases and the six American aircraft carriers now at battle stations in the Mediterranean and the Arabian Sea.

The aircraft, including RAF Tornados and Harriers, F16s, F15s and F18 Hornets will work on a "taxi rank" basis, forming ranks in the air before being sent in on targets. Along with the B52s from Fairford, other longrange bombers include the almost mythical B2 Spirit bat-wing supersonic aircraft which will fly from bases on Diego Garcia. Also spearheading the attack will be B1B Lancer and F117 Stealth bombers.

Action began in the air today as warplanes from the USS Abraham Lincoln bombed Iraqi positions after coalition aircraft - including two RAF Harrier jets - were fired on by Iraqi forces.

"There were, yesterday, four firings against our aircraft flying in the southern no-fly zone," Rear Admiral John Kelly told reporters on board the Lincoln. He said US forces had responded by bombing "a series of targets" he described as "command and control" positions.

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/til/jsp/modules/Article/print.jsp?itemId=3895393
 
DcupSheepNipples said:


After it's test the Pentagon said it would be ready for use later in the year meaning months. How ever every thing is on the table for this war! Odds are they will use it even if it is not completly ready! Just like the thermoberic bomb in Ahganistan! It was still in the testing phase! I dont know the arsonal numbers either! That may have been the only one built so far! May be just a phycological weapon for now.

Ask Jnuts he might now for sure! But even if it is not ready and they have some in the arsonal, I think they will use it, if the battle field conditions warrent it! It wont be as easy as the Gulf War though! Iraqi troops are spread out and are in civilian areas! But if they drop it in unpopulated areas near the Iraqi troops, it will mess with there heads and cause them to shit their pants!


Do you think we have many of these bombs or do we have just a couple of them? Also, what is the price tag on these bombs?
 
Do you think we have many of these bombs or do we have just a couple of them? Also, what is the price tag on these bombs?

They are cheap for what they do! The Daisy Bomb for example is the cheapest/destruction ratio convential bomb in the US arsonal at $27,318! The MOAD will cost more than Blu-182 but its cost/destruction ratio will only be behind the Daisy Cutter! The design and gps config will be more costly! The actual cost of the bomb is still classified!


Daisy Cost!
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/dumb/blu-82.htm
 
I'm happy with that weather prediction. Hope it holds.

It's great news for US troops! It will be cool for at least a week! They won't sweat to death in their chem bio suits now! I was worried about that! But old mother nature is looking down on them!
 
uh oh Sand storms! Would not affect Shock and Awe! Would delay ground troops and helicopters if it is widspread across iraq!

BAGHDAD (March 19) - Swirling dust, gray clouds and an ominous mood hung over Baghdad on Wednesday as the clock ticked toward a deadline for a U.S. invasion.

The capital of 6 million, buzzing with life until Monday, looked like a ghost town. It was a city waiting for the Americans to invade.

The streets were eerily empty, shops, businesses and schools were shut. Most people stayed indoors counting the hours until the U.S. onslaught. Even pharmacies had shut their doors.

With a 4 a.m. deadline for war just hours away, the moment of truth had arrived for Iraqis, who had hoped until recently that diplomacy would save them from their third war in 20 years.

''I feel sorrow. It's like waiting for somebody to come and slaughter you. We have paid dearly for something we haven't done,'' said Jihad Hashem, 50, an engineer, one of a few people whose family had left for Syria. ''I don't understand why do we have to go through this again.''

President Bush, who gave President Saddam Hussein and his sons 48 hours to leave Iraq on Monday night, is expected to unleash a blitz of 3,000 bombs and missiles in an opening salvo of war if Saddam stays put.

For Iraqis, even the weather piled on the misery. A fierce sandstorm arrived in Baghdad like a biblical plague, compounding the mood of depression. Even those who wanted to venture out could not do so because of the poor visibility.

''We've started counting hours since George Bush gave the ultimatum. We still have a few hours left,'' said Jaber Abboud, 30, who was among a handful of shopkeepers still selling food.

''I am hoping to sell most of my goods today so tomorrow I won't have to open. I will take the rest of them home and we will eat them during the war,'' he added.

TWO WORLDS

Clutching at straws, the confused and drained Iraqis hoped the fierce sandstorm might delay the U.S assault.

Most Iraqis say they have not yet recovered from the traumatizing effects of the 1980-88 Iran-Iraq war and the 1991 Gulf War. In all, hundreds of thousands died in those two conflicts.

''Our fear of danger increases with every passing hour. All this powerful buildup of troops in such massive numbers on a country like ours is terrifying. They talk about new weapons, about a 9-ton bomb, about new missiles ... All this news is frightening,'' said Nasman Bahjat, 43, a shopkeeper.

He said he had prepared his own shelter by fortifying one room with sandbags. ''I even shielded my shelter windows with special tape to protect it from a chemical attack,'' Bahjat said.

Baghdad looks more and more like two worlds -- one of a government that continues to defy U.S. threats and another of a people subdued and exhausted by wars.

The only sign of normal life -- a somewhat surreal one -- could be seen at the information ministry, where workers were putting the final touches to a newly built annex to be finished by next week.

Iraqi Information Minister Mohammad Saeed al-Sahaf promised people on Wednesday that activity in Iraq would be normal.

''There won't be a curfew. People can move freely. All the rumors you hear about curfews are baseless,'' he told reporters.

Reut12:40 03-19-03
 
:lmao: i love it, you guys are acting like your involved in this crap. special agent Dcups and captain beastboy are being informed with the latest military tactics lol.
 
i love it, you guys are acting like your involved in this crap. special agent Dcups and captain beastboy are being informed with the latest military tactics lol.

You wanted live feeds BBB! I'm doing the best I can for you!:D

I was just informed that 15 Iraqi soldiers have surrendered at the Kuwait border.

As far as beast boy he is a secret agent! He told me so!:D
 
LMAO!

No, not the President.....close though...HG Pennypacker gets MSNBC Bulletins he is kind enough to share with his buddy.

He's a lonely fellar.
 
beastboy said:
LMAO!

No, not the President.....close though...HG Pennypacker gets MSNBC Bulletins he is kind enough to share with his buddy.

He's a lonely fellar.

So HG has access to this "In-ter-net" thing-a-ma-jigger I've read so much about? And then spews out his war-mongering dogma straight into the Beastphone?

That is SO cool.

:fro:
 
gymtime said:


So HG has access to this "In-ter-net" thing-a-ma-jigger I've read so much about? And then spews out his war-mongering dogma straight into the Beastphone?

That is SO cool.

:fro:

Jelus?


LMAO @ beastphone.....I'll have you know we have never exchanged digits. That is so gay!
 
HG Pennypacker said:
I'll bet most of you didn't know that "War & Peace" was originally called "War.....What is it Good For?"

It was actually Tolstoy's WIFE who insisted he call it "War & Peace."
 
DcupSheepNipples said:
It's still a go for Shock and Awe! Roll out speeding up to deadline!


Cruise missiles were also loaded onto B52 bombers at RAF Fairford in Gloucestershire, a clear sign that the bombardment of Baghdad could be only hours away.
At Fairford, 14 giant American B52 bombers which will lead the fight against Saddam were loaded up with cruise missiles this morning.

The first flight of B52s were expected to take off two hours before sunset to give them enough flying time to identify their targets and drop their first devastating payload before heading for home.

The missiles were driven to the aircraft in five articulated lorries escorted by police at 10.30am.

Troops meticulously loaded the weapons - each costing around £1million - into the bomb bays by forklift truck.


Something doesn't make sense in what they are writing. Time will tell
 
Tick Tock Tick Tock 2 hours!

WARPLANES ATTACK
http://static.sky.com/images/pictures/1133320.jpg

British and American warplanes have bombed targets in southern Iraq, the Pentagon has said.

Sky News correspondent James Forlong is on board the USS Kitty Hawk in the Persian Gulf, from where ten warplanes involved in the attack took off.

He said the ten aircraft - two 'Top Gun' F-14 Tomcats and eight F/A-18 Hornets - returned safely.

Their targets included an Iraqi intelligence unit and surface to air missile sites, Forlong said.

Pentagon sources said ten artillery pieces were destroyed.

The Pentagon feared they may have had chemical or biological weapons which could be used on US and UK troops massing on the border with Kuwait, reports in America said.

The UK's Ministry of Defence confirmed British RAF planes were involved.

An MoD spokeswoman described the patrols as "standard 'no-fly' zone activity".

"We are targeting systems which are a threat to our forces," the spokeswoman said.

British and US aircraft have been patrolling the northern and southern "no-fly" zones since the end of the last Gulf War.

The patrols have stepped up in recent weeks, targeting Iraqi air defence systems in preparation for the expected invasion.

Around 250,000 British and American troops are in Kuwait ready to invade Iraq.

There are only a few hours left before the deadline issued to Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein runs out.

US President George W Bush told Saddam he must leave Iraq by 1am GMT on Thursday or face war.

Sky's Emma Hurd, in Kuwait with British forces, said there are no signs that troops are launching a ground invasion.

Sky's David Chater, in Baghdad, said there are no signs of the city being attacked.

He said the atmopshere was "very tense" and locals had taken refuge in bomb shelters.

The Iraqi capital - home to up to 6 million people - had been turned into a "ghost town", he said.

"It's a time of fear," he added.

Last Updated: 22:39 UK, Wednesday March 19, 2003

http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-1084275,00.html
 
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