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Anyone think it is a bad idea?
Or know where to buy BB(benzyl benzoate) withot going online?
Or know where to buy BB(benzyl benzoate) withot going online?
Making Tren with just BA?
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REDMACHINE
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I have seen alot about some "magic solution" some say it is just BB and some vit B. just wondering if it is a must or if I am ok with the BA
I have a kit coming with the oil and vials. but just wondering on how is the best way to dissolve the pellets and separate the binders.
also coffee filter vs. watman filter....any diff really
I have a kit coming with the oil and vials. but just wondering on how is the best way to dissolve the pellets and separate the binders.
also coffee filter vs. watman filter....any diff really
REDMACHINE
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Here is why I am asking just wondering the diff in taking the extra step and getting the BB
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I get asked this question a lot so I decided that the board could use a thread/post like this. I personally do not buy kits to make tren. I have before and they work well . In fact, it is a good idea to use a kit your first time trying to make tren IMO. This will give you the basic knowledge you need, to learn how the process works, in an easy to follow procedure. Once you find out how easy it is then you can move on to different ways. I just don't like paying big inflated prices for ingredients that are relatively cheap.
The "magic solution" sold by kit makers is nothing more than BA. Just buy the BA(benzyl alcohol) from this site. It is only $10-$11 each for 8oz bottles of BA and BB. You will have enough to make several boxes(not carts) of tren, and it will not cost you up to $35 for 5 mls as I have seen. You will have over 200mls for $10 or so of this "magic solution". Take a look.
http://www.theeyeofnewt.com/store/html/subcats/Base_Oils_Gels_Waxes_Spec ialty_Chemicals.asp
That is the direct link to the page with BA and BB. I have made 180ml's of prop, 260mls of tren, and 170mls of suspension and I still have 2/3 of the bottles left more or less. You won't have to buy "magic solution" or rather, solvent for a long while.
How to make Tren with just the BA.
Use 4 mls of BA for each cart and disolve the pellts in the BA. Leave it in the solution for 2-3 days in an air tight bottle,so that the white junk settles on the bottom and hardens a bit. This will sort of distill the solution. I learned this from Superfrk.
Then draw up the dark orange solution and avoid drawing in the white junk at the bottom. The whole point of leaving it the BA for 2-3 days is so that it is easier to avoid this white junk as it will harden a little and make it easy for you to avoid it.
After drawing up the solution and avoiding the white junk as much as possible without losing any tren, add your oil for the final mg/ml concentration you want.
Now warm up this oil/tren/BA solution a bit and mix well to make the filtering easier. Then filter this thru a watman .45u filter for your final golden tren oil. Make sure you save 2 cc's of oil to purge the filters of any remaining tren. Bake in oven 3 times at 250 degress with 30-60 minutes of cooling off in between to sterilize.
You should now have beautiful golden crystal clear tren for your cattle
WARNING...DO NOT DRAW BACK ON THE FILTER AS THIS WILL BREAK THE SEAL INSIDE AND MAKE YOUR FILTERING USELESS. You will just be going around the filter once this seal is broken.
Another alternative
I usually use BB(benzyl benzoate) also. The reason is that BA is water soluable and the body absorbs this quite quickly and then you can get a little pain fromm the shot the day after. By adding the BB you are adding another solvent that will hold the tren in solution and allow it to absorb more slowly without crystalizing. What hurts is that the tren is left alone, after the BA is absorbed, with nothing but oil unsuspended. This causes the tren and/or prop to crystalize and this is why you have pain. After about 12 hours the BA is absorbed and the depot is left ususpended in oil and it then crystalizes because it has seperated from the oil. This makes your cattle angry.
When I disolve the pellets I use BB and BA.
The following is my formula for making tren and prop that includes BB along with the BA. I learned this from several smart bros on other boards who helped during my research. Manteca, Dazed, Big Daddy Chemo, and others.
How to make tren with BA and BB
5% BA, 15%BB, 80% oil. Same process as above but I use these percentages to disolve my pellets in BA and BB, and let sit for 2 days. Then follow the same exact procedures written above.
Items you will need to buy
BA(benzyl alcohol
BB(benzyl benzoate)
2, 10cc syringes,
1, 5cc syringe to use to purge the filters
1 watman filter for each cart
18g pins to draw up oil
Bottles to put it in
You can buy everything you need on this list except the BA and BB at http://www.getpinz.com/ and cheap. Plus you will have all the ingredients to make tren several times over.
The BA and BB along with any special oil you want to use can be purchased here.
http://www.theeyeofnewt.com/store/html/subcats/Base_Oils_Gels_Waxes_Spec ialty_Chemicals.asp
I prefer to buy expeller pressed saflower oil. This oil is vitamin-e enriched and no chemicals are use the extract the oil from the safflower seeds. It is pressed out of them with nothing more than pressure. You can buy this at most supermarkets for about $4 a quart for top of the line stuff.
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I get asked this question a lot so I decided that the board could use a thread/post like this. I personally do not buy kits to make tren. I have before and they work well . In fact, it is a good idea to use a kit your first time trying to make tren IMO. This will give you the basic knowledge you need, to learn how the process works, in an easy to follow procedure. Once you find out how easy it is then you can move on to different ways. I just don't like paying big inflated prices for ingredients that are relatively cheap.
The "magic solution" sold by kit makers is nothing more than BA. Just buy the BA(benzyl alcohol) from this site. It is only $10-$11 each for 8oz bottles of BA and BB. You will have enough to make several boxes(not carts) of tren, and it will not cost you up to $35 for 5 mls as I have seen. You will have over 200mls for $10 or so of this "magic solution". Take a look.
http://www.theeyeofnewt.com/store/html/subcats/Base_Oils_Gels_Waxes_Spec ialty_Chemicals.asp
That is the direct link to the page with BA and BB. I have made 180ml's of prop, 260mls of tren, and 170mls of suspension and I still have 2/3 of the bottles left more or less. You won't have to buy "magic solution" or rather, solvent for a long while.
How to make Tren with just the BA.
Use 4 mls of BA for each cart and disolve the pellts in the BA. Leave it in the solution for 2-3 days in an air tight bottle,so that the white junk settles on the bottom and hardens a bit. This will sort of distill the solution. I learned this from Superfrk.
Then draw up the dark orange solution and avoid drawing in the white junk at the bottom. The whole point of leaving it the BA for 2-3 days is so that it is easier to avoid this white junk as it will harden a little and make it easy for you to avoid it.
After drawing up the solution and avoiding the white junk as much as possible without losing any tren, add your oil for the final mg/ml concentration you want.
Now warm up this oil/tren/BA solution a bit and mix well to make the filtering easier. Then filter this thru a watman .45u filter for your final golden tren oil. Make sure you save 2 cc's of oil to purge the filters of any remaining tren. Bake in oven 3 times at 250 degress with 30-60 minutes of cooling off in between to sterilize.
You should now have beautiful golden crystal clear tren for your cattle
WARNING...DO NOT DRAW BACK ON THE FILTER AS THIS WILL BREAK THE SEAL INSIDE AND MAKE YOUR FILTERING USELESS. You will just be going around the filter once this seal is broken.
Another alternative
I usually use BB(benzyl benzoate) also. The reason is that BA is water soluable and the body absorbs this quite quickly and then you can get a little pain fromm the shot the day after. By adding the BB you are adding another solvent that will hold the tren in solution and allow it to absorb more slowly without crystalizing. What hurts is that the tren is left alone, after the BA is absorbed, with nothing but oil unsuspended. This causes the tren and/or prop to crystalize and this is why you have pain. After about 12 hours the BA is absorbed and the depot is left ususpended in oil and it then crystalizes because it has seperated from the oil. This makes your cattle angry.
When I disolve the pellets I use BB and BA.
The following is my formula for making tren and prop that includes BB along with the BA. I learned this from several smart bros on other boards who helped during my research. Manteca, Dazed, Big Daddy Chemo, and others.
How to make tren with BA and BB
5% BA, 15%BB, 80% oil. Same process as above but I use these percentages to disolve my pellets in BA and BB, and let sit for 2 days. Then follow the same exact procedures written above.
Items you will need to buy
BA(benzyl alcohol
BB(benzyl benzoate)
2, 10cc syringes,
1, 5cc syringe to use to purge the filters
1 watman filter for each cart
18g pins to draw up oil
Bottles to put it in
You can buy everything you need on this list except the BA and BB at http://www.getpinz.com/ and cheap. Plus you will have all the ingredients to make tren several times over.
The BA and BB along with any special oil you want to use can be purchased here.
http://www.theeyeofnewt.com/store/html/subcats/Base_Oils_Gels_Waxes_Spec ialty_Chemicals.asp
I prefer to buy expeller pressed saflower oil. This oil is vitamin-e enriched and no chemicals are use the extract the oil from the safflower seeds. It is pressed out of them with nothing more than pressure. You can buy this at most supermarkets for about $4 a quart for top of the line stuff.
REDMACHINE
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Bump....BA alone ok?
Skepticore
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Don't know about the BA part, but concerning Whatman papers vs. coffee...
Whatman filter papers are engineered for scientific separations, oftentimes to separate precipitation reactions. They have controlled max sieve size, unlike coffee filters. Also, most white coffee filters are white because the paper fiber was bleached with some type of bleaching agent.
Most people would argue that no bleach residue persists in the rinse phase of making coffee filters, and in fact there is an oxygenation process that can bleach the fibers without using common "bleachlike" chemicals, but there are coffee junkies who insist on using brown, unbleached papers for the very reason they that don't want to be poisoned by Mr. Coffee.
Whatman (and other scientific filter papers; I'm not trying to get rich selling filter paper with testimonials) has a more rigorous QA process. The scientific community would accept no less.
I would suggest Whatmans simply based on price. They aren't very expensive, even including a ceramic filter funnel, and they're readily available from hundreds of online sources.
Also, no eyebrows will twitch over their purchase, unless of course you're also ordering something like red phos, ya damn anorexic junkies...
Whatman filter papers are engineered for scientific separations, oftentimes to separate precipitation reactions. They have controlled max sieve size, unlike coffee filters. Also, most white coffee filters are white because the paper fiber was bleached with some type of bleaching agent.
Most people would argue that no bleach residue persists in the rinse phase of making coffee filters, and in fact there is an oxygenation process that can bleach the fibers without using common "bleachlike" chemicals, but there are coffee junkies who insist on using brown, unbleached papers for the very reason they that don't want to be poisoned by Mr. Coffee.
Whatman (and other scientific filter papers; I'm not trying to get rich selling filter paper with testimonials) has a more rigorous QA process. The scientific community would accept no less.
I would suggest Whatmans simply based on price. They aren't very expensive, even including a ceramic filter funnel, and they're readily available from hundreds of online sources.
Also, no eyebrows will twitch over their purchase, unless of course you're also ordering something like red phos, ya damn anorexic junkies...
REDMACHINE
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I dont have a way to order online, no cc or dc...I have to mail the cash to a friend then get him to order it and send it to me..way too complex i know....would a pharmacy like walgreens cary these? they sid they didnt even have 18g needles when I called.
Skepticore
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REDMACHINE said:
Would they carry BA or filter paper? Slim chance they'd carry either. I'll let others answer where you can get BA. For papers, I just Googled a company for you in Canada that has some generic scientific filters for about $5 per 100. They're called Indigo Instruments and their number is 1-877-746-4764. Like I said before, there's a hundred places you can get these from. If they try to get you to buy a case, you may be able to bullshit them by telling them you only need a sample for your manufacturing facility to see if they'll work in your produciton units...
Wait a sec, why don't you just send a freakin' money order?
Skepticore
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And, after rereading the recipe, I sure as hell hope they meant a SYRINGE filter...
