I try M1T alone and try DBOL, I got better gains off the M1T then Dbol big time, you get no water retention while you on it. You dont even need any anti E with it. I have used 2 times by itself each time I gained about average of 15 points. In my next cycle I going to use it with Test E , and Equi. I replaced with M1T instead of DBOL and kicks in much faster about 2 weeks on it you start to see results. I personally like it but others have their preferences if I was you I give it a try. As far as sides, the common one is Lethargy, but just like any oral is toxic to the liver!!! Ohh by the way mg per mg they say M1T is stonger then DBOL!!! I dont remember in wha magazine came out anyways bro do some research and think about it!!!