Lyle McDonald...

[MASSIVEmorris]

I've always wondered what Lyle ended up looking like after he had got done with his BodyOpus experience. In his journal entries (the later one's) he talks about getting pictures taken. My question is- Where can I find these "After" photo's of Lyle. Does anyone know, or, have a link?



P.S. ...call me stupid but.......what does "IMHO" mean....?!

 

[Vageta]

IMHO = In my humble opinion.

Also Lyle used to have these pics up on his website but I'm not sure if it even exists anymore. Last i heard he had gotten in much better shape once he started his leptin experiments versus what happened with his bodyopus experience.

 

[zlivan]

Well, I haven't seen any pictures, but he told me that he got to 7% last summer, which should be very lean I guess.
Lyle's a knowledgeable man, and his info on misc.fitness.weights is the best if you're a natural dieter.

 

[Cuts]

IMHO = In my humble opinion.

I thought was "In my Honest Opinion"???

 

[nclifter6feet6]

um lyle is not big at all he looks fairly skinny not much muscle, i dont think he works out much he looks like your average joe on the street, but i think he knows his shit

 

[Warblade]

I thought was "In my Honest Opinion"???

Nope, its Humble.

 

[TheGame23]

 

[Cuts]

Who is that? Is that Lyle McDonald? If it is I'm never listening to any of his shit again lol

 

[plornive]

Dude,
his bf levels fluctuate sporadically with all of his diet experiments. He does not concentrate on gaining lean mass, and spends his time researching. An observer of a dieter sometimes has a better picture and understanding than the dieter himself, because of the principle of objectivity. Additionally, there is no inherent "sampling error".

He's coming out with a new book on some new drug on qfac, by the way.

 

[Vageta]

Lyle knows his shit even if he doesn't look like it. The thing is he's never pretended to be in awesome shape like those fucks at t-mag, he knows he has no muscle and doesn't hide the fact. Just because he doesn't look like a bodybuilder doesn't mean he doesn't understand their diets. That'd be like assuming Ronnie Colemen is a dieting and training genius just because he is Mr. O. I highly doubt that he is...

 

[NY Muscle]

Dude,
his bf levels fluctuate sporadically with all of his diet experiments. He does not concentrate on gaining lean mass, and spends his time researching. An observer of a dieter sometimes has a better picture and understanding than the dieter himself, because of the principle of objectivity. Additionally, there is no inherent "sampling error".

He's coming out with a new book on some new drug on qfac, by the way.

What book and what drug? Where can I find more info?

And what’s this about his leptin experiments?

Lyle is a VERY VERY smart man, has helped me a lot in the past and can DESTROY anyone intellectually when it comes to dieting…. So dont worry about how he looks, look at people like me who have followed his advice to the T.

 

[Par Deus]

Lyle is a VERY VERY smart man, has helped me a lot in the past and can DESTROY anyone intellectually when it comes to dieting…. So dont worry about how he looks, look at people like me who have followed his advice to the T.

Just want to "ditto" this statement.

BTW, I think that pic is from about 1995.

 

[plornive]

What book and what drug? Where can I find more info?

He said it would be out on http://www.qfac.com *today*! I have checked, but it isn't posted yet. He said it is a drug that does some "nifty" things with dieting. It is out of character for him to write a book specifically about a drug, but it seems he is very impressed by what this drug can do. Thr drug is not OTC but can easily be ordered overseas on the internet to the US. I don't know what the drug is. The book will be 20 bucks. It will be in electronic form, meaning you log in and can read the book but supposedly cannot save the file or copy and paste the text.

 

[MS]

Lyle is a truly poor specimen and not a good physical recommendation for his theories. But that doesn't change the value of his knowledge. At least he recognized how shitty his genetics were from the beginning and never kidded himself that taking AAS would make him into a greek god, but instead would merely make him a bigger poor specimen of a bodybuilder (unlike many folks on these boards).

 

[Cuts]

I was just joking about the pic... I respect a guy with a strong intellect...

 

[Bigbear]

Where is his book?

I looked over at QFAC because he said the book would be out today and I am dying to read it. It was not there though. Any news on it, or if he has changed the date. BTW, i agree with what has been said about lyle. He defintely knows his shit.

Bigbear-Alex

 

[nclifter6feet6]

the so called "diet expert" needs to stop researching diets and start lifting weights, so he can get laid, and not to impress us bodybuilders with all his scientific yadda yadda...he probably likes big strong muscle men,he must be a homo

 

[Vageta]

Nclifter I sincerely hope you're joking. Knowing a lot about fat loss has no bearing on one's own muscle mass. He isn't a bodybuilder nor has he claimed to be and your homo statement really shows your intelligence, or lack thereof.

 

[MASSIVEmorris]

Clarification...

I've seen that picture before....THAT'S HIS "BEFORE" PICTURE! That's not his after photo, cut the guy some slack! I wanted to know where I could find his "AFTER" photo....

 

[MohawkMuscle]

hahah, just like everyone on this site who gives advice are all 250 ripped eh?
Please, most knowledable people on bodybuilding are not big at all...

dan duchaine,
will brink
john parrillo
im sure the list goes on and on.

 

[plornive]

At least the guy isn't fat! I couldn't imagine finding out my favorite diet expert was a 300 lb balloon sitting behind a computer eating a Krispie Kreme and telling me to eat some low GI carbs!

Seriously though, I have heard that he has added some mass and is lean. My friend has a video by him.

 

[smokinghawk]

Lyle does lift weights, and know proper routines and forms. He's very honest that he "can add muscle to anyone in the world except myself."

On MFW, he boasted that he was working on a new invention that would completely change body structure even at the genetic level--"and you know I'm smart enough to do it, too!" he scolded foes. What was that experiment? Is it the leptin thing, and if so, wha's it about?

Also, whatever happened with last year's breakdown where he ended up blitzing everyon on the newsgroup and challenging Ed Sturm to a lifting competition?

 

[MilkManTU]

i hate when people base their decisions of whether to listen to a persons advice based on their body composition. i heard a guy who was both big and shredded in the gym tellin another guy he got that way by eating nothing but salads and running for a week.

 

[Par Deus]

On MFW, he boasted that he was working on a new invention that would completely change body structure even at the genetic level--"and you know I'm smart enough to do it, too!" he scolded foes. What was that experiment? Is it the leptin thing, and if so, wha's it about?

That is not the leptin thing. I am curious what happened with his genetic manipulation ideas. He was talking about "making more money than God" and such.

 

[MR. BMJ]

Those pictures are old like PD mentioned.

Lyle had posted some pictures on his "Great Jihad" board along with Elzi Volk's pictures. He still was not huge or really lean, but he had improved since those Bodyopus pics. The newer pictures are not up anymore to my knowledge as they were taken down when he took down that site. You may be able to find pictures of him on some of Elzi's sites. The newer pic's that I had seen were from 2 years ago where he followed something like a 55%carb/30%protein/15%fat diet regimine. He looked a lot better than his BO pics.

Although I like the BO diet, when Lyle did his 20week experience, he changed his plans so much that I feel it really negated his effects.

I would like to see his progress of late after following his isocaloric refeed dieting.

BMJ

 

[MS]

Genetic manipulation!??! I don't think he means it in the literal sense of the word. He may mean changes in regulation of gene expression, but I seriously doubt he has personally got the ability to make permanent alterations to people's genetic code that will lead to increased leaness and muscularity. Even if he could do this to himself he would still not cut it as a BB, unless he was able to change the length of his bones and insertions of his tendons etc.....his genetics suck in the most fundamental aspects of BB. In judging Lyle's advice you must look at the quality of competitors he turns out rather than his own accomplishments. Do as he says, not as he does!

 

[smokinghawk]

You never know. That nut was convinced he could do anything.

 

[MASSIVEmorris]

Plornive

Seriously though, I have heard that he has added some mass and is lean. My friend has a video by him.

By any chance would you be able to find out what exactly that video is called. Also, is it available somewhere?

 

[Par Deus]

Genetic manipulation!??! I don't think he means it in the literal sense of the word. He may mean changes in regulation of gene expression, but I seriously doubt he has personally got the ability to make permanent alterations to people's genetic code that will lead to increased leaness and muscularity.

"Supplements that work at the genetic level" or something similar was how he put it. IMO, he was not mentally stable at this time period, so who knows what he meant.

 

[MASSIVEmorris]

IMO, he was not mentally stable at this time period, so who knows what he meant.

Not mentally stable? Maybe he just hadn't had carbs in a long time...I'm already going bonkers (and I'm one grumpy S.O.B. ) heh...

 

[plornive]

Re: Plornive

By any chance would you be able to find out what exactly that video is called. Also, is it available somewhere?

He got it when he ordered the book "the Ketogenic Diet" from http://www.theketogenicdiet.com. I think he might have ordered that pdf file and the paperback and the video came with it. I just ordered the paperback, so I didn't get it.

 

[zlivan]

Lyle's new booklet about a certain drug (supplement, whatever you wanna call it) should be out next week, so we'll find out what's going on in his research lately...

 

[Lumbuss]

he claims to have 16.5inch arms now, they were 13 in the pic.