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i wanna know about this shit, i've used it cuz where i live is cheap and easy to get, i was using 2.5mg 4 times a day, have u used it ? thx
Lutalyce, what do u know ?
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ElAndrogenico
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it's good, i used it in my pecs and they grew more than normal, i want to try lutalyce with a cycle
Rippeddrago
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Bring the pain
Stuff is worthless and debilitating. Enjoy
Stuff is worthless and debilitating. Enjoy
NorCalBdyBldr
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How well does it work sub-Q to kill bodyfat in spot areas? Anyone have any experience with this? Is the pain as intense sub-Q into the fat as is its reputation for pain IM? And how many times would you need to inject it, say into the sub-Q area between the abs to get it to totally cut in?
AustinTX
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It kills the fat, the amount depends on the dose that you can tolerate and how much actual fat you have in the area. The pain and sides are supposed to be less with SubQ. There are quite a few interesting threads here (you'll have to search for pgf2a OR lutalyse) and a recent one at steriodology that discuss it.
Reviews are "mixed" to say the least.
Reviews are "mixed" to say the least.
NorCalBdyBldr
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Well I never really carry hardly any fat whether I am bulking or cutting but there are a couple of little sticky areas that I am aware of (nobody else seems to see them for some wierd reason.......LOL) like around the bottom and outer edge of the pecs and in between the individual sections of the abs that I would like to eliminate fat from to "crisp it up" a bit. The only actual place that I seem to ever store any fat is under the arms below the arm pits between the outer edge of the pecs and in front of the lats if that makes any sense. Not a lot there either but it is the only place I can actually pinch and get more than just skin and it is pretty bad there, like I can get almost a half inch per pinch. So how would injecting in that area feel? There are very few places on my body that you can ever pinch more than 1/8 or less of skin so mostly it is just "fine tunning".......I was wondering how much fat it kills each time and how big an area it affects. I would love to get my hands on some and try it out but in the meantime, I just wanted to know how others felt about it for this purpose. I am not interested in it, after reading the posts, for muscle growth or for "spot" muscle growth, if such a thing really is possible.
***
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extremely dangerous. shoot it into a vein and it WILL kill you. even if you get it near a large vein, enough can diffuse through the vein and cause heart cramps, instant diarrhea, and unconsciousness.
speaking from experience bro. i kinda dug the pain and the shits, but when it almost killed me i realized how stupid this shit was.
speaking from experience bro. i kinda dug the pain and the shits, but when it almost killed me i realized how stupid this shit was.
AustinTX
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*** said:
VERY unlikely that it could kill you with any sort of dose you would be using. It is water based, half life of minutes (even when not in a vein) and the lungs clear it out too fast. Freaking out when you feel it hit you lungs if you hit a vein, is practically guaranteed though
Of course you shouldn't use it if you have asthma, etc.you dug shits huh?
***
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AustinTX said:
VERY unlikely that it could kill you with any sort of dose you would be using. It is water based, half life of minutes (even when not in a vein) and the lungs clear it out too fast. Freaking out when you feel it hit you lungs if you hit a vein, is practically guaranteed though
you dug shits huh?
you obviously haven't experienced this. it doesn't kill you because the solvent used (oil vs water). it's the contractile ability it has on skeletal and cardiac muscle. if you don't believe me shoot .05cc into your veins and see how your heart feels. i was knocked unconscious. it doesn't matter if the half life is minutes because the reaction is nearly instantaneous in a matter of seconds.
AustinTX
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*** said:
I have, but was not even close to being knocked unconcious. But I scaled back to use no more than 1.5CCs at a time. I've had some hellacious stress tests performed by a cardiologist where my HR peaked at 220 and BP was 300/200, or something crazy in that area and know for a fact that I don't have any sort of cardiac arythmia (sp).
People have to do their own research and make up their minds. PGF2-alpha impacts ALL of your smooth muscles which include your sphincter, with noticble effects, your heart and your eyes.
IV will hit you all at once and not be pleasant, to say the least, and given ***'s being knocked out cold people should be even more wary of doing IM injections, IM hits quicker and has worse side effects, SC is pretty slow and the side effects aren't nearly as bad.
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Citruscide
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I'm going to have to run with *** on this one. I have some experience with this Pgf2a shit as well.... I didn't get the shits, but I felt like I was going to die for about 45 minutes.
The only way I'd ever use this stuff, is if I was HARD UP for a bridge in between a cycle and I was one of those firm believers in a non-anabolic bridge.
Otherwise, I'd definately listen to what *** is saying... he knows his shit.
C-ditty
The only way I'd ever use this stuff, is if I was HARD UP for a bridge in between a cycle and I was one of those firm believers in a non-anabolic bridge.
Otherwise, I'd definately listen to what *** is saying... he knows his shit.
C-ditty
