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Low Testosterone Levels After Juice

time4akshun

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Hey Guys,

I just went to the doctor to check up on some gyno I have (distributed/not mass). I have always had some and it got worse after a cycle of Sus. I have done three cycles only in my life, 1-Sus, Deca, Winny, 2-Primo/Winny, 3-Deca (This year in May/June).

I took some Nolvadex after 3 weeks of my last Deca cycle to help supress Estrogen and restore my Testosterone but I fear I may have damaged myself. He told me my testosterone level resemble those of a 70 year old man. I am scared since I am having trouble losing stubborn fat, although I run and diet regularly. I do drink a bit ,8 beers a week, and have smoked Marijuana in the past.

Can anyone give me a knowledgable response without flaming to help me figure out where I go from here? My next doctor visits are with an Endocrinologist and Urologist to see what to do to help restore my levels.

Thanks in advance.

Scared,
Time4Akshun
 
Wow, your test levels are still suppressed after a cycle you finished 4 months ago? Hmmmm....did you take clomid after your cycle?
 
I took Nolvadex after the cycle based on advice from Anabolics 2000. Started 3 weeks after. Did no tapering on the cycle, end at 600 ml since it was just Deca and the book also recommends that tapering is a waste of time.

Please help...
 
time4akshun said:
I took Nolvadex after the cycle based on advice from Anabolics 2000. Started 3 weeks after. Did no tapering on the cycle, end at 600 ml since it was just Deca and the book also recommends that tapering is a waste of time.

Please help...

Ok, you should have done this right after your cycle, after enough time had passed for the gear to leave your system: take clomid.

Search for the post on clomid by The Iron Game. It will give you all the info you need. However, you can hit the clomid right now, and you should. Do it like this:
Day 1 300mg
Days 2-11 100mg/day
Days12-21 50mg/day

That should help tremendously.
 
Dude didnt you take clomid? or course your test levels are gonna be low....next time, have some clomid and take it like TXLonghorn says.

nolva is only useful for gyno treatment during the cycle. you can also add proviron at the end next time you cycle.
 
I would question the results of those test, if your cycle was that long ago, your Testosterone should be back to normal,

Before you take one Physicians opinion I would

Consider having the test done again, especially if you have insurance.
 
You need to research your AAS before you do a cycle. While I personally like deca it is definetely one of the hardest on shutting your HPTA for long periods of time. It will come back on its own but I have heard of it taking up to six months. You did no clomid therapy so you completely shot yourself in the foot. You also took nolvadex post cycle as an antiestrogen (by the way Deca gives Progesterone not estrogen increase thus the winny stack) which I don't think makes much sense. I am not trying to flame you bro but if you do no research and then are suprised when something like this happens what can we say. I have heard of people taking Prop in small amounts to get test back up and then starting clomid therapy over a week after last prop shot. However the risk of this is that after 4 months you may be about to kick in naturally and supressing it again might cause a whole new bag of worms. I think at this point I would get some Proviron and maybe take some very low levels of Anavar if you have crashed hard.
 
I think this guy was just steered wrong by Ana 2000.

Look, if you are a bit olde,r say over 35, it will take longer for your Test to kick back in.

Stop worrying, chances are you will be fine in a few weeks. Just get some Clomid. Follow the dosing schedule which was posted above, you should be fine.

If that does NOT work, THEN go and maybe get hormone replecament or whatever. But chances are that will kick things back in with no problems.
 
Thanks so much guys. Clomid it is after my Urologist see's me.

Funny though, check the Profile for Deca in Ana 2000. It clearly says begin taking Nolvadex or Clomid three weeks after last injection. HCG wasn't necessary but also an option.

I'm not a novice, just a bit scared as this IS an unsure sport. THere is always a risk involved.

Thanks again for the knowledgeable answers. I'm much calmer now.

Time
 
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