Looking for Advice For My First "Bulk" Cycle

[Zatek]

Looking to do my first "bulk" cycle. I have done 15mg of superdrol for 4 weeks, and 400 mg of Test-E for 12 weeks, but both were on a severely calorie restricted diet and were probably a complete waste of time. I am 5'9" and started out at ~240 10 months ago and and am now ~160lbs, very lean and nowhere to go but up. I am currently benching 275x5 and deadlifting 415x5. My goals are primarily strength, but I could definitely use some more size too.

I wanted to do a longer cycle, and I heard Tren was great for strength, but I also read side effects can be harsh so I shouldn't stay on Tren for 16 weeks. Can I bridge to tren from another steroid? Something like this:

Week 1-16 Test-E @ 400mg/Wk
Week 1-8 Deca @ 200mg/Wk
Week 9-16 Tren-E @ 200mg/Wk

I also have some Halotestin and Superdrol, which I plan to take 10mg of each pre-workout 2x a week on my heaviest lifting days, or would it be better to just save the halo and take 10-20mg ED for the last few weeks of the cycle and use the superdrol as a kicker at the beginning?

For PCT I have some Clomid and Nolva leftover from previous cycles, but need to order more. Also need an AI too I'm guessing? Any preference on Arimidex or Exemestane? What kind of dosage you think I'll need? I used 6.25mg ED of Exemestane during my 400mg/wk test cycle and my joins were somewhat achy in the morning, but fine during the day, and I've never had any signs of gyno.

Any advice anyone wants to offer is appreciated.

 

[Kbordner]

OK here goes... First off the sides from Tren are greatly exaggerated. I am really getting tired of the scare tactics. TrenA is great. Tren E not so much unless you don't like pinning. With that being said I wouldn't run Tren in your case. Run the Deca but up it to 400. ( think about NPP... It's better) keep the Test at 500. Use the SD as a kicker and leave the Halo for the icing at the end. Only run an AI if you need it. I don't get while people run it no matter what. If you are holding water run it. Always prefered Aromasin over Adex. 12.5 EOD



55 and still fucking dangerous

 

[rustilldown]

OK here goes... First off the sides from Tren are greatly exaggerated. I am really getting tired of the scare tactics. TrenA is great. Tren E not so much unless you don't like pinning. With that being said I wouldn't run Tren in your case. Run the Deca but up it to 400. ( think about NPP... It's better) keep the Test at 500. Use the SD as a kicker and leave the Halo for the icing at the end. Only run an AI if you need it. I don't get while people run it no matter what. If you are holding water run it. Always prefered Aromasin over Adex. 12.5 EOD



55 and still fucking dangerous

How come tren a is so much better than e? Genuinely curious mang

 

[hydez27]

Because if you do experience sides the short ester will clear yoursystem quickly

 

[rustilldown]

Because if you do experience sides the short ester will clear yoursystem quickly

Is this the only reason?

 

[LoveSnatches]

Whats the use of taking the orals preworkout? I would think they would be more effective taken daily to maintain levels. Am I wrong?

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[Zatek]

Thanks for the advice, I appreciate it.

I'm preferring the long esters because they are cheaper. In total this cycle is going to cost me like ~$500 when you include cycle, pct, support supps. I'm not poor, but I'm not loaded either. Studying for some tech certifications so I can get a better paying job, then I can spend more and get short esters if I want.

For the orals, I've read a lot of posts of people saying they use it pre-workout. They say it definitely has an acute strength increase effect, but perhaps the better question is does dosing it that way make you stronger long-term, which is probably a lot harder to answer.

You sure I should take 400mg/wk of Deca? I'm not the biggest guy out there, only 5'9". I could go 300mg/wk, but if I go 400mg/wk I would need another vial. I have enough to increase the test dosage to 600/wk, so that's an option too.

Also, any specific reason I shouldn't use Tren? It seems to be a popular compound for strength gains, which is what I'm looking for, and if the sides are exaggerated then what's the downside?

 

[Texas Monster]

Is this the only reason?

The shorter estered is also able to jack you up a lot faster than e.

 

[training700]

Hits a lot harder and faster.

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