Lookin for advice...

[git_er_done]

Well i am pretty new to all this stuff. I mean i have read and talked to a few ppl that have takin roids, but never really understood things. I am 18 and I have done all the creatine and protein bullshit for 4 years now. Don't get me wrong, it works, but very slowly. I want to get on the juice, but need to learn more about them first. I am very eager to learn, and open to any suggestions. (cycles, which ones are better, nutrition) I eat well and know what i am doin in the weight room, just need a little extra boost! Thanks guys!

 

[bowling ball nutz]

Well i am pretty new to all this stuff. I mean i have read and talked to a few ppl that have takin roids, but never really understood things. I am 18 and I have done all the creatine and protein bullshit for 4 years now. Don't get me wrong, it works, but very slowly. I want to get on the juice, but need to learn more about them first. I am very eager to learn, and open to any suggestions. (cycles, which ones are better, nutrition) I eat well and know what i am doin in the weight room, just need a little extra boost! Thanks guys!

git er done, I hate ta burst ur bubble but at 18 your natural testosterone is high enough to make great gains, there are many things u can work on b4 using juice, starting with training, nutrition-- do you even know how many calories you eat a day? those are places to start, bust as for now just bust ass in the gym for a few years, and you will thank your self.. whats your height weight?

 

[Bravo75]

my advice to you is to do as much research on any drugs you are considering on taking and not listening to most of the clowns in the gym who most likely will be less educated than you if you do all your research.

 

[evander1972]

Yeh totally agree with bowling. Your own test production is very high at 18 and youll make excellent gains if diet is good. If you take the gear at this age it could give you problems later on your still growing Bro. Just stick around and learn the ropes and once your 21 youll have it all sussed and be ready to go.

 

[git_er_done]

i'm 5'10 around 185 bf% is about 9-10%. I take in around 2,000-2,500 calories a day. I try to eat around 190 grams of protein a day also. I know that my test levels are pretty damn high these days, but i am just curious about this stuff. I am not jumping into anything right now, just wanna know my options. I am not looking for a quick fix either. I love lifting weights, like i said earlier, i just want a little extra boost. Thanks for the comments.

 

[ironhorse242]

wait till your 22.

 

[jeb0177]

wait until you're 22 at least bro! you can do it naturally right now. LISTEN TO THE BROTHERS!!

 

[git_er_done]

I know guys my age and younger who are on it, i hate to see them get an edge on me. It works great for them right now. Just curious, why wait till early 20's? If i were to start now, could it mess the rest of my growth process up?

 

[evander1972]

Exactly Bro, It messes with your growth proccess.

 

[git_er_done]

Well thanks man, not exactly what i wanted to hear, but i understand, and i don't wanna f**k with me still growing. Cuz maybe one day i'll be 6'0. Well i am not gonna give up on them, i still wanna learn all i can about them. Thanks.

 

[evander1972]

Just learn all you can like you say, I wish I could of had access to this site for info when I started lifting. When you are old enough to start your cycle youll be well clued up and make rapid gains and progress unlike the other guys who are juicing now who will be burnt out.

 

[Vicious cycle]

Well thanks man, not exactly what i wanted to hear, but i understand, and i don't wanna f**k with me still growing. Cuz maybe one day i'll be 6'0. Well i am not gonna give up on them, i still wanna learn all i can about them. Thanks.

Learn about them, yes. Do them, no.

 

[bowling ball nutz]

I know guys my age and younger who are on it, i hate to see them get an edge on me. It works great for them right now. Just curious, why wait till early 20's? If i were to start now, could it mess the rest of my growth process up?

just wait until they come off and deflate and lose their gains cuz they dont have a clue what their doing, while you will be building a solid base, oh and food is the most anabolic thing u can have, its all in the diet! Diet will take you farther than any drug, because without the diet the drugs dont work, there is a certain amount of calories that you need to grow! try body weight X 20 getting close to 300g protein and 250 g carbs and 100g fat

Peeeaace

 

[bigdho]

just wait until they come off and deflate and lose their gains cuz they dont have a clue what their doing, while you will be building a solid base, oh and food is the most anabolic thing u can have, its all in the diet! Diet will take you farther than any drug, because without the diet the drugs dont work, there is a certain amount of calories that you need to grow! try body weight X 20 getting close to 300g protein and 250 g carbs and 100g fat

Peeeaace

Hes right your diet is half of what it should be.Change your diet to the peramiters that bowling laid out and you should grow and remember bodybuilding is a slow game you have to give things time.

 

[slat1]

Wait a few years. Listen to bowling ball nutz. Your buddies are going to shut down their own test production eventually and will shrivel up. Keep learning different ways to lift, different programs, and really learn about nutrition. You will make great gains. A few years down the road if you decide to move on to the juice let it be a well informed decision. You did the right thing coming to this board. Don't be afraid to ask questions. We are all here to help each other!

 

[strongsmartsexy]

The good news is that this is the perfect time to learn about DIET, Kenesiology, and steroids in general. Study, read, ask questions and learn. Your natural hormones are sufficient for you to make some solid gains by proper diet and excersize now. They learning you'll do over the next few years will give you all you need to know when you do finally make the leap, IF you decide to leap.

And who knows. Maybe by then, new advancements may have been made that are even better for you.