long r3 igf-1

[bigmouth2006]

can someone post a tread about this i am non plat. so i can't use the search

 

[NYBodyguard]

what info exactly you looking for?

 

[bigmouth2006]

i don't know much about it. anything on how to,how much, and when to use it you know the basics

 

[moose11]

yahoo search works...and its free

 

[NYBodyguard]

real quick

4 weeks on 4 off

some say pre workout some say post workout

some say just to use as little as 11mcg other say 80-120 each training day

get the igf from a legit place and get it in powder form

 

[bigmouth2006]

ok i found some info on it and it did say if it work well the gh that's the info i'm looking for

is the ag-guys stuff real?

 

[FISHTALES]

ok i found some info on it and it did say if it work well the gh that's the info i'm looking for

is the ag-guys stuff real?

ag guys has it/ I saw it a while back, but couldnt find it recently

 

[d_o_c_]

Long chain human insulin-like growth factor (Long IGF-1 R3) is a kind of protein which has 83 amino acids. We can use the gene clone method to clone the gene into the colibacillus and induce to express. Then through several steps of separation purification process, causes the purity to achieve above 95%. The Long IGF-1 R3's difference is because of the tertiary amino acid of its human insulin-like growth factor(IGF-1). The arginine on the tertiary amino acid replaced the glutamic acid, this caused the Long IGF-1 R3 can not combine with some certain proteins, thus the human body can maintain longer half decay time, which is 200 times stronger than the natural IGF-1's activity. Long IGF-1 R3 has many functions, such as it can increase the protein synthesis, increase the RNA synthesis, promote fat metabolism and sugar transport and so on. Therefore, for the animals, the Long IGF-1 R3 can promote the muscle cell become large, transform the fat into energy, etc. Moreover, the Long IGF-1 R3 using as the additive for cell culture, is the best cytokine for serum-free culture. It is suitable for many cell variety and has good effect for promoting growth, the two
functions are incomparable, other cytokines do not have the two functions.

Storage: Long IGF-1 R3 freeze dried powder can be stored for 2 years under -18oC, the activity is unchangeable.

 

[d_o_c_]

Help at all? Or do you just want to know about use?

 

[bigmouth2006]

Help at all? Or do you just want to know about use?

ok i am already doing the gh by its self can i use the igf with it instead of using slin and get the same results

 

[bigmouth2006]

is it dangerous like using slin?

 

[dr_skier]

it will make you very very sensitive to any slin so be very careful and from what i've read it works very well along side gh.

 

[bicepts101]

just use all three but learn about them first cause u are not ready for slin or igf bro

http://basskilleronline.com/basic_igf.html

 

[bigmouth2006]

just use all three but learn about them first cause u are not ready for slin or igf bro

http://basskilleronline.com/basic_igf.html

yeah i know i was just curious about them. thanks for the info guys

 

[maldorf]

it will make you very very sensitive to any slin so be very careful and from what i've read it works very well along side gh.

I used IGF along with Humalog and had good results without really feeling any more sensitivity to the insulin. I never had to increase my carb intake significantly due to adding the IGF. In my experience, the effects of IGF on insulin sensitivity are way overblown.

 

[bigmouth2006]

i have one more question that i haven't seen in any of the info on igf if used alone or with gh do you have to check your blood sugar like you would on insulin?

 

[bigmouth2006]

^^^^^^

 

[maldorf]

i have one more question that i haven't seen in any of the info on igf if used alone or with gh do you have to check your blood sugar like you would on insulin?

Most people I know dont even check it while on insulin. Given the long IGF is supposed to have a long acting affect on the body, but while on it I never experienced any symptoms of low blood sugar.

 

[bigmouth2006]

Most people I know dont even check it while on insulin. Given the long IGF is supposed to have a long acting affect on the body, but while on it I never experienced any symptoms of low blood sugar.

really what were your doses? and have you used ir3 igf without insulin?

 

[maldorf]

really what were your doses? and have you used ir3 igf without insulin?

I was doing 30 mcg of IGF 2x per day for a total of 60mcg perday. I was doing the first IGF injection in the morning upon waking and the second one preworkout. I then took 10 IU of Humalog postworkout. I have never used IGF without insulin, but as I said I never experienced any low blood sugar symptoms while doing this. I have used insulin without IGF. I always took in dextrose postworkout for the slin, and then ate at least one good meal about an hour later.

 

[bigmouth2006]

I was doing 30 mcg of IGF 2x per day for a total of 60mcg perday. I was doing the first IGF injection in the morning upon waking and the second one preworkout. I then took 10 IU of Humalog postworkout. I have never used IGF without insulin, but as I said I never experienced any low blood sugar symptoms while doing this. I have used insulin without IGF. I always took in dextrose postworkout for the slin, and then ate at least one good meal about an hour later.

so you are say that the dangers that everyone speak of are over blown and if used with common sense you should be fine

 

[bicepts101]

so you are say that the dangers that everyone speak of are over blown and if used with common sense you should be fine

i guess u could say that. slin is pretty easy to use. u just have to study it just like anything else. make sure u have extra carbs on you at all times. anyone that dies off of insulin is a either completly abusing it or is a total retard. its a very serious drug but its so easy to keep it safe.

 

[maldorf]

i guess u could say that. slin is pretty easy to use. u just have to study it just like anything else. make sure u have extra carbs on you at all times. anyone that dies off of insulin is a either completly abusing it or is a total retard. its a very serious drug but its so easy to keep it safe.

Exactly. I do my insulin at the gym postworkout and always have my dextrose/protein shake with me which I drink a few minutes afterward. In my gym bag I always carry extra simple carbs such as power bars just in case I need more. You have to plan ahead and be prepared incase you blood sugar falls low. Something like a coke will hit the blood fast too. Every body is different in how it reacts to things, so do not take the insulin lightly. Read up as much as you can and always be prepared. There is lots to know.

 

[bicepts101]

Exactly. I do my insulin at the gym postworkout and always have my dextrose/protein shake with me which I drink a few minutes afterward. In my gym bag I always carry extra simple carbs such as power bars just in case I need more. You have to plan ahead and be prepared incase you blood sugar falls low. Something like a coke will hit the blood fast too. Every body is different in how it reacts to things, so do not take the insulin lightly. Read up as much as you can and always be prepared. There is lots to know.

yep my blood sugar went low a few weeks ago i got to the point of cold sweats and shaking. i took down a soda real quick and it did the trick

 

[maldorf]

yep my blood sugar went low a few weeks ago i got to the point of cold sweats and shaking. i took down a soda real quick and it did the trick

I cant imagine getting to the point where you cannot fix your blood sugar like you did. Only thing that might get you to that point would be if you screwed up and injected the wrong amount of insulin by reading the syringe wrong. Many people get confused when using IGF this way, and they also have trouble using 1cc syringes sometimes. I prefer the 1/2 cc, but 1cc is ok too.

 

[bigmouth2006]

Exactly. I do my insulin at the gym postworkout and always have my dextrose/protein shake with me which I drink a few minutes afterward. In my gym bag I always carry extra simple carbs such as power bars just in case I need more. You have to plan ahead and be prepared incase you blood sugar falls low. Something like a coke will hit the blood fast too. Every body is different in how it reacts to things, so do not take the insulin lightly. Read up as much as you can and always be prepared. There is lots to know.

it doen't seem that hard to be safe the more i read about it just make sure you inject the right amount and have enough nutrients take in on hand

 

[maldorf]

it doen't seem that hard to be safe the more i read about it just make sure you inject the right amount and have enough nutrients take in on hand

Yeah, thats about right. I do it 4 weeks on and then 4 weeks off too, check up on the cycling so you dont become insulin resistant. I use humalog right now, but may end up using humulin r in the future since I am having a bitch of a time getting the humalog. Humalog requires a scrip.

 

[bigmouth2006]

Yeah, thats about right. I do it 4 weeks on and then 4 weeks off too, check up on the cycling so you dont become insulin resistant. I use humalog right now, but may end up using humulin r in the future since I am having a bitch of a time getting the humalog. Humalog requires a scrip.

i would think you could find anything on the internet without a rx

 

[bigmouth2006]

^^^^

 

[maldorf]

i would think you could find anything on the internet without a rx

Oh thats true alright, but US customs confiscates the packages. The pharmacies that sell the humalog dont seem to take steps to package it so it doesnt draw attention. One I got in had been opened by British Customs and passed along with a big ass stamp on it. Im sure this stamp is likely to draw the attention of US customs. Either they dont want to try to hide whats inside so they dont look like they are trying to break our laws, or they just dont have a clue on how to package.

 

[Lumberg]

What about just IGF-1 alone?

 

[bigmouth2006]

What about just IGF-1 alone?

i read log that someone took of 25 days of igf by its self and lowered bf% while gaining some strenght and size i have to post the results from day one to 25 when i have time

 

[bicepts101]

I cant imagine getting to the point where you cannot fix your blood sugar like you did. Only thing that might get you to that point would be if you screwed up and injected the wrong amount of insulin by reading the syringe wrong. Many people get confused when using IGF this way, and they also have trouble using 1cc syringes sometimes. I prefer the 1/2 cc, but 1cc is ok too.

na dosing was fine. my carb timing was a little off on the second peak. instead of just eating a meal i had to drink a soda then eat a meal.

 

[bicepts101]

i would think you could find anything on the internet without a rx

just go to any pharmacy and ask for humulin r

 

[maldorf]

just go to any pharmacy and ask for humulin r

Yep, just gave up on trying to get the humalog and ordered some humulin r instead. I know humulin R lasts a bit longer than humalog, anyone notice anything else different between the 2?

 

[bigmouth2006]

i read log that someone took of 25 days of igf by its self and lowered bf% while gaining some strenght and size i have to post the results from day one to 25 when i have time

ok this guy took it by its self and day one he was:

5'10
202lbs
34" waist
17 3/4" arms

day 25
211lbs
32 3/4 waist
18 3/4 arms

he was taking 40mcgs split into 2 20mcgs shot this isn't bad results

 

[NYBodyguard]

ok this guy took it by its self and day one he was:

5'10
202lbs
34" waist
17 3/4" arms

day 25
211lbs
32 3/4 waist
18 3/4 arms

he was taking 40mcgs split into 2 20mcgs shot this isn't bad results

bullshit

 

[bigmouth2006]

bullshit

you think?

 

[NYBodyguard]

you think?

while hes at it why didnt he bullshit he grew a few inches too

if his waist went down from a 34 - 32 that would result in some serious weight decline instead he says he gained about 10lbs in 25 days but really it must of been about 25lbs in 25 days if he really ended up at 211lbs

stop buying all the bullshit

is igf good yes will it do wonders in 25 days no

 

[bicepts101]

while hes at it why didnt he bullshit he grew a few inches too

if his waist went down from a 34 - 32 that would result in some serious weight decline instead he says he gained about 10lbs in 25 days but really it must of been about 25lbs in 25 days if he really ended up at 211lbs

stop buying all the bullshit

is igf good yes will it do wonders in 25 days no

well if ur going to pick between gh and igf...igf is the one for faster results. igf for 25 days will do u good gh for 25 days will do nothing

 

[NYBodyguard]

well if ur going to pick between gh and igf...igf is the one for faster results. igf for 25 days will do u good gh for 25 days will do nothing

again his claims what igf did for him is bullshit

 

[maldorf]

again his claims what igf did for him is bullshit

I have to agree here too. I also found the gains from IGF to be just as short lived as AAS too, or maybe even moreso.

 

[bigmouth2006]

I have to agree here too. I also found the gains from IGF to be just as short lived as AAS too, or maybe even moreso.

what do you mean short lived?

 

[maldorf]

what do you mean short lived?

Once you stop using it the changes you see in your appearance seem to leave within a few weeks.

 

[bigmouth2006]

Once you stop using it the changes you see in your appearance seem to leave within a few weeks.

hgh is a much better way to go as far as keeping gains and basicly getting more for your money

 

[dr_skier]

anyone use igf for strictly cutting purposes?

 

[Lumberg]

anyone use igf for strictly cutting purposes?

imo it would make a fantastic cutter if accompanied by very strict discipline of the diet.

 

[bigmouth2006]

imo it would make a fantastic cutter if accompanied by very strict discipline of the diet.

how?

 

[bigmouth2006]

anyone else want to say anything about igf-1?

 

[NYBodyguard]

anyone else want to say anything about igf-1?

if you wait long enough im sure someone will post what you wanna hear,

 

[bigmouth2006]

if you wait long enough im sure someone will post what you wanna hear,

not sure what you mean by that but ok

 

[maldorf]

anyone use igf for strictly cutting purposes?

Honestly, I dont see using it for building much mass and so for cutting it is good. From experiences of other users, I have seen that it is good to use during PCT for maintaining mass.

 

[bigmouth2006]

Honestly, I dont see using it for building much mass and so for cutting it is good. From experiences of other users, I have seen that it is good to use during PCT for maintaining mass.

if i do decide to use i will use for pct

 

[Lumberg]

I cant imagine getting to the point where you cannot fix your blood sugar like you did.

Maybe someone who did it right before driving for an hour, or got unexpectedly interrupted/called away?

 

[Lumberg]

It's probably aso great for recovering from injuries.

 

[bicepts101]

again his claims what igf did for him is bullshit

oh, i agree bro. im just saying....

 

[Lumberg]

whoa, anyone notice the increase in price?

 

[Lumberg]

oops, n/m, the table lists a way higher price, but when you go to buy, it's the same price. I wonder if that's foreshadowing or just to make it look like a deeper discount.