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Log: My First Cycle (Anavar/Proviron)

notjake11

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After several weeks of working out the details with some of the brilliant minds of this site and finally getting my supplies delivered, I started my very first cycle this week. Since the fine folks here helped me design it, I will keep you all posted on my progress and we shall see how things go from here.

My starting stats (based on a BodPod taken on Thursday, November 15):

Gender: Male
Age: 37
Weight: 180 lbs
Bodyfat: 12.3%

My goal on the cycle is to lean out a little more while hardening up, adding some vascularity and increasing my strength. Ideally I would like to get my bodyfat back into the single digits (was reading in the 7.5-9% range March-June but took a few months off and got lazy but am back on track the last two months with a few more pounds of lean mass than I had then). As I said in my original thread, my goal is not to bulk up, but rather to strive for the lean and cut look seen in 300 and Immortals.

I have a show of sorts that requires me to focus on cutting my bodyfat as low as possible by the end of the first week of December without sacrificing any lean tissue in the process. So between now and then my cardio and diet will be a bit tighter than ideal for maximizing the strength benefit of the var/prov. Once that is done, the remainder of the cycle will have my calories back up some and my focus will switch some.

The plan is as follows:

1-8 Anavar 80mg (may up to 100 last 2-4 weeks)
1-8 Proviron 75mg
1-8 HCGenerate (6 caps/day)
1-8 N2Guard (8 caps/day)
1-8 Forged Liver (2 caps/day)
1-12 Creatine Nitrate - SAN (6 caps/day)
3-12 Forma (7 pumps 2/day)
1-3 and 9-12 DAA Chews
9-12 Unleashed/PostCycle (2 doses/day)
9-12 Clomid (25mg/day)
9-12 Osta (25mg/day)

I upped the N2Guard and added in Forged Liver as added support given I am running a pretty decent-sized dose of two orals. I also added in the DAA chews for the first three weeks to help give me an added boost as I prepare for the show, which is three weeks after I started the cycle (I started on Monday so I am ending my first week today).

For workouts, I will be doing a four day split (Chest/Back/Shoulders/Triceps+Biceps) with a day off after each two days of lifting for a 2 on 1 off setup. I will also be doing a shit ton of cardio the first few weeks (nothing compared to what dylan does, but a good 8-12 hours a week). Cardio and weights will be separated, with cardio usually happening fasted in the morning and lifting later in the day after having fueled up a bit and recharging.

Food will be a bit tricky the first few weeks. I have been averaging about 2500 calories and 300-350 grams of protein this week. I will try to maintain that through Thanksgiving, which will be my only cheat day between now and the show. After that I will tighten up a bit more and be busting ass for the 12 days before the show to cut bodyfat and lean out as much as possible without cutting lean tissue. Advice on how to maximize my results for this stretch is encouraged/requested.

After that bet is settled/won, I will change my diet to follow the advice given by dylan and up my calories to the 2500-3000 range and my protein closer to 350-400 grams.

Once the cycle is over, the plan will be to go from PCT directly into a SARMs cycle, which I would like to start planning now so I can get a jump on getting my supplies together. I'm not sure what the best combination is for me and need to read up more on what each of the major three does and what benefit they would have to me in working towards my goals. At that point, I want to focus on continuing to lean out while trying to add a bit of mass across the chest, shoulders and upper back (legs and arms are both fine as they are - chest and shoulders are my two weakest bodyparts). I'm thinking that Osta and S4 are the best options. From what I undestand, GW is great for leaning out but not necessarily good when trying to add some lean mass in the process. I'm also not sure what other things should be added to the mix. By then, the holidays will be past and I won't have to worry about traveling through any airports, so I'd be open to injectibles too fill out the plan. Maybe the best bet would be to just run the SARMs as a bridge to my next cycle, do the mini-PCT I've seen dylan recommend to others and then go into another cycle from there. Advice on this is defnitely requested as well.
 
As an aside, I was going to run N2Slin with this cycle as well, but it has been out of stock and I can't wait to start the cycle given the show is three weeks out. Maybe next time around.
 
One week in and I am definitely seeing some changes. Mucles look/feel fuller amd vascularity is way up. From what I understand, the strength increase should be coming in about now (started var a week ago and the prov four days ago).

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I think the fullness amd vascularity are really kicking in. Was. Hanging in the lockerroom and someone said I looked like I had just finished a great workout based on how swole and veiny I was. That was BEFORE I lifted. :)

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you definitely should run a sarms bridge in between cycles to help not only maintain your gains but to add to them... what you run for a stack will be dependent upon your goals...

for diet help, post your diet in the diet forum
 
you definitely should run a sarms bridge in between cycles to help not only maintain your gains but to add to them... what you run for a stack will be dependent upon your goals...

for diet help, post your diet in the diet forum

The goal at that point will actually be similar to what you are aiming for on your current cycle. I will be trying to lean out a little more while trying to add a couple pounds of lean, quality muscle.

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1-8 osta 25 mg day dosed once a day
1-8 s4 50 mg dosed twice a day... 25 mg a.m. and 25 mg six hours later
1-8 gw 10-20 mg day... split doses... a.m. dose is split 12 hours from p.m. dose
3-8 albuterol 12-18 mg day... split equally in thirds
1-8 hcgenerate
1-11 need2slin
1-11 creatine nitrate

pct 9-11

unleashed/post cycle combo
bridge double dosed
 
1-8 osta 25 mg day dosed once a day
1-8 s4 50 mg dosed twice a day... 25 mg a.m. and 25 mg six hours later
1-8 gw 10-20 mg day... split doses... a.m. dose is split 12 hours from p.m. dose
3-8 albuterol 12-18 mg day... split equally in thirds
1-8 hcgenerate
1-11 need2slin
1-11 creatine nitrate

pct 9-11

unleashed/post cycle combo
bridge double dosed

Using all three will still allow me to add lean mass?

And that would start right after pct (so 1 would be 13 after the current 8 week cycle and 4 week oct)?

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yes and yes bro... you overthink too much... i wouldn't lay it out if it wasn't conducive to your goals... good luck man
 
yes and yes bro... you overthink too much... i wouldn't lay it out if it wasn't conducive to your goals... good luck man

I definitely overthink. I would rather err on the side of asking too many questions than not enough.

Thanks again dylan. I know it must be tedious dealing with all if the same stupid questions over and over, but you help keep us all healthy and get the most out of our cycles.

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Its no problem and its great to ask questions but you also need to be careful with thinking too much because that can be detrimental as well... Good luck


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Its no problem and its great to ask questions but you also need to be careful with thinking too much because that can be detrimental as well... Good luck


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I am trying to get all my questions about each stage settled one step in advance (learn about cycle and pct before starting, get up to speed on sarms stack/cycle in advance while in this stage, etc.) so that while on that stage i am not second guessing my choice. Doing that made me feel so comfortable about the var cycle that i have been excited every step of the way and can enjoy it rather than stress or worry.

So far so good. Did another bodpod today and dropped two pounds of bodyfat while adding that same two pounds in lean mass for a drop of over 1% in bodyfat. The mirror wasnt lying and it wasnt my imagination when I thought I saw fuller muscles and more vascularity/definition.

I so felt like a god in the gym yesterday. Strength was up, which I expected, but my endurance was too. And it seems like I am recovering faster. I have obliterated my upper body the ladt few days (not being able to shampoo my hair after because my arms wont reach) but not really that sore after sleeping. Is that a normal reaction?

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Flew home for the holidays on Tuesday. Went to the gym here Wed and again felt like a god the whole time I was there. Muscles were full and hard and veins are becoming more and more apparent in more places every day.

After a 30 min warmup and an hour of lifting, was still flying high and full of energy so dexlined the ride home and ran back instead.

Have stuck to my diet plan (2500 cals and 300+ protein) every day but Thanksgiving, which was my first cheat since starting and will be my last cheat for two more weeks. That being said, I crushed a ton of food for the holiday but my body handled it without the usual bloat I get when I overeat (usually takes three days to recover from a binge like that).

In short, still loving this.

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Had my first post-Thanksgiving workout yesterday and was definitely a little sluggish compared to the workout from the day before the holiday. I was also feeling the initial symptoms of a cold (every time I travel home with my son I get sick - I swear he is a carrier monkey).

I am not sure whether it is the aas, the bloat/water retention from the holiday eating, the onset of being sick or some combination of the above, bit I had my first experience of "the pumps." I ran to warmup and about two miles in could feel my legs getting amped up like I had been squatting rather than running. The effect was then just as evident during my back and bicep workout. It wasnt painful and didnt impair my workout, but different from what I am used to. Still had a killer workout and my strength and stamina are continuing to increase.

With the cold now hitting me full on and my flight back home tomorrow, I will take the weekend off from lifting and cardio to allow my body the time to fight this off and try to get healthy to start the week. It is going to be tough to force myself to take it easy though. Normally I am a zombie when sick and want nothing but my bed and the TV remote. This morning I am still full of energy and want to do something even though I know I need to rest.

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The cycle is continuing to go well. I caught a cold from my son while travelimg for the holiday, but am on the mend and feel better already.

This week is the last week I have to finish my hard cut for the bet/contest I mentioned in the initial post. I am doing a water/carb cycle and upping my cardio this week to really lean out as much as possible for Saturday. After that I will return to the general plan originally outlined for the remainder of the cycle.

I want to thank everyone again for all the help with designing this cycle and helping educate me a bit on aas, particularly dylan and joeblow. I am loving the feel and results and could not have done it without the assistance given by the members of this board.

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I'll definitely be following along. Var + Prov is an interesting combo.
Good luck!


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As of Monday I will be at the halfway point of this cycle and all I can say is that I am thrilled with the results so far.

My initial bodpid reading had me at 12.3% bodyfat at 180.5 pounds with 158.4 pounds of lean tissue. However, that was after a weekend where I wasnt exactly eating my best amd was a bit dehydrated (had a few drinks before cycle since not drinking while on it). I ran another bodpod a few days later and got what I think was a more acurate reading: 10.7% bodyfat at 182.7 pounds with 163.3 poumds of lean mass. I will ise this latter number so as not to overinflate the results.

As of today, i came in at 8.7% bodyfat at 184.6 pounds with 168.6 pounds of lean mass. This means that in four weeks I have dropped 2% bodyfat, lost four pounds of fat and gained five pounds of muscle.

All of my lifts are up (bench up 30 pounds) and I still feel like a god in the gym. I have also experiemced minimal sides - had some pumps bit better since adding taurine.

Looking forward to the next four weeks!

ps - I upped to 100 on the var this last Monday and wl stay there for duration.

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