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General-K

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OK bro`s i have read alot about the effects of AAS on the liver & kidneys and it has got me a bit worried i had a blood test at the docs and it came back with liver and kidney values fine as i just got myself a bit worried i have been using AAS for the past 3 yrs approx 3 cycles a yr with full pct ect just wanted to know if there are any tell tale signs of you messing up your kidneys and liver as i say im just curious as ive got myself a bit paranoid but my blood test showed all ok.

Also i have never used oral AAS always injectables
 
Orals are ok but stay away from 17-AA steroids. The 17-AA are know liver enemies. Injections are preferred because they bypass the liver on the first pass. This makes them more effective and you should be able to reduce the dose slightly to achieve same results (compared to a larger dose oral).

I have used Dbol up to 30mg/day with no problems however, some people are advocating up to 100mg/day. Personally, I think this is asking for problems.
 
All Orals are 17-AA (i cant think of any that arent, there might be 1, like primo tabs), the alkylation at the 17th C position is what resists degradation in the liver allowing more drug to survive first pass (all orals follow this route) through and get into the blood stream. If you are using injectables and have regular blood work, you will be fine.
BTW, in most cases, liver problems and high values go away after stopping the oral compound, VERY rarely do serious liver effects carry over and continue to be a problem.
 
General-K said:
OK bro`s i have read alot about the effects of AAS on the liver & kidneys and it has got me a bit worried i had a blood test at the docs and it came back with liver and kidney values fine as i just got myself a bit worried i have been using AAS for the past 3 yrs approx 3 cycles a yr with full pct ect just wanted to know if there are any tell tale signs of you messing up your kidneys and liver as i say im just curious as ive got myself a bit paranoid but my blood test showed all ok.

Also i have never used oral AAS always injectables


K for gettin periodic blood test done. It's always a wise choice to use Tyler tabs and drink LOTS of water.
 
bigrand said:
All Orals are 17-AA (i cant think of any that arent, there might be 1, like primo tabs), the alkylation at the 17th C position is what resists degradation in the liver allowing more drug to survive first pass (all orals follow this route) through and get into the blood stream. If you are using injectables and have regular blood work, you will be fine.
BTW, in most cases, liver problems and high values go away after stopping the oral compound, VERY rarely do serious liver effects carry over and continue to be a problem.


Primobolan is not-----99% of orals are 17-AA----injectable winstrol is too....though
 
i just had my bloodwork done prior to starting and they said i was in tip top shape. after my cycle i want to do another one (blood work) to make sure im still good. i can go in and get one whenever i want. as a matter of fact they told me they want me to come in every 6 months. the only time my bloodwork came back a little bad was when i was on tren and my ketones and triglycerides were high. they told me to stop whatever im doing asnd retest. i did, went back 2 weeks later and the tests were fine. they thought i had a liver problem, it was supposed to be a fasting test.
 
will b huge said:
Primobolan is not-----99% of orals are 17-AA----injectable winstrol is too....though

Bro I was not aware of that about the injectable winny
i am currently taking:

100mg injectable winny pw
150mg tren pw
400mg test prop pw
 
General-K said:
Bro I was not aware of that about the injectable winny
i am currently taking:

100mg injectable winny pw
150mg tren pw
400mg test prop pw


sure is...winny is winny whether it's oral or injectable, both are 17-aa, that's why you can drink winny....
 
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