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Liquid Clen

detroitbodybuildertigers said:
Is Clen used as a pre workout supp...are the effects kicked in after about 30 min.----also what dose do you take
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Of course, it's a stimulant and bronchodilator....

I take 120MCG......then shake like a rabid dog.....




DIV

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I did the pyramid up thing - 20mcg for a day or 2, then 40 for a day or two, up to 80. Then pyramid down the last few days. that was my first cycle - I could have upped the dosages a bit. Next one I will hit 100 or 120.
 
detroitbodybuildertigers said:
Is Clen used as a pre workout supp...are the effects kicked in after about 30 min.----also what dose do you take
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not 30 mins....it peaks at about 2-3 hours...so i'd pop about 80-100mcg 2 hrs before workout.
 
Usually 40mcg->80mcg is a good run, up and down, remember if you have downregulated receptors or an unresponsive CNS you might either need more clen or clen wont work for you.

Mr.X
 
Mr.X said:
Usually 40mcg->80mcg is a good run, up and down, remember
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Ramping.......I go 40-80-120.......straight pyramid.....

Depends on how I feel....




DIV

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detroitbodybuildertigers said:
You take it 7d ew or just wo days?
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Usually just 2 on 2 off @ 120MCG.....

Don't forget the taurine and electrolytes........or you'll cramp like a wet bitch on the regular.




DIV

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detroitbodybuildertigers said:
do you just have taurine on hand..what do you use for electro's Gatorade?
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Gatorade makes that sugarfree electrolyte drink.........forgot the name....

Taurine is a must......because Clen uses your body's supply of it.



DIV

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detroitbodybuildertigers said:
So start with 40 day 1 and if no results, then day 2 go to 80?
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I would try this:

day 1-3: 20mcg/ED
day 4-6: 40mcg/ED
day 7-8: 60mcg/ED
day 9-12: 40mcg/ed
day 13-15: 20mcg/ED

basic cycle of clen, see how it works for you and adjust it to fit your needs.

Mr.X
 
It seems odd to me with as much activity you have on this board you know nothing about clen. I guess if you have never been interested in it, you must not have read about it in the past.

The half life of clen is about 36 hours, so you only need to take it once per day. I take my whole dose in the AM, once a day.

Taking Taurine and Potassium will help with cramps and headaches, which are the two main sides (Besides the shakes, which are normal)

I would start at 40 mcg for day 1 and 2 then 80 day 3 and 4, and day 5 go up to 120 mcg if you can handle it. Stay at 120 for the rest of a 2 week period. Run it along with 2mg daily of Ketotifen and you can run clen for 6 weeks strait. Back the Clen dosage down, as the Ketotifen makes it more effective. I max at 80-100mcg of clen when taking ketotifen.
 
detroitbodybuildertigers said:
You're correct fuckstick
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Fuckstick? Now there is an insult of epic proportions. Good Work!

You are platinum, Use the fucking search.

What will your next post be; "Is ephedrine a stimulant?"

Even though you chose not to use the search, I still gave you the information you requested, as I always do. So you can take your bomb, and shove it up your ass.
 
F.Y.I. the search function sucks, so maybe he couldn't find anything noteable, sometimes I can't find anything using it.
 
black sheep said:
Fuckstick? Now there is an insult of epic proportions. Good Work!

You are platinum, Use the fucking search.

What will your next post be; "Is ephedrine a stimulant?"

Even though you chose not to use the search, I still gave you the information you requested, as I always do. So you can take your bomb, and shove it up your ass.
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LOL sucka
 
black sheep said:
Fuckstick? Now there is an insult of epic proportions. Good Work!

You are platinum, Use the fucking search.

What will your next post be; "Is ephedrine a stimulant?"

Even though you chose not to use the search, I still gave you the information you requested, as I always do. So you can take your bomb, and shove it up your ass.
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OH and keep your fucking mouth shut when i bomb your ass...take it like a true beeeyatch :chomp:
 
detroitbodybuildertigers said:
OH and keep your fucking mouth shut when i bomb your ass...take it like a true beeeyatch :chomp:
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It was simply an observation. Stop taking stuff so seriously and chill once in a while. No reason to bomb him; he didn't even throw the first insult.
 
azul said:
It was simply an observation. Stop taking stuff so seriously and chill once in a while. No reason to bomb him; he didn't even throw the first insult.
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BabyBirdChirper.....

DBBT is not taking it seriously......he's actually pretty hyper, if you take him seriously, then YOU ARE TAKING ALL OF THIS TOO SERIOUSLY.

Feel me?

I'm considering droppin da' bomb on BabyBlackSheep.......not sure if he deserves it.




DIV

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DIVISION said:
BabyBirdChirper.....

DBBT is not taking it seriously......he's actually pretty hyper, if you take him seriously, then YOU ARE TAKING ALL OF THIS TOO SERIOUSLY.

Feel me?

I'm considering droppin da' bomb on BabyBlackSheep.......not sure if he deserves it.




DIV

:chomp:
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Drop it like its hot for me DIV..he deserves the bomb :evil:
 
If he was a newbie with like 3 threads you would be flaming the hell out of him for not doing any research.

He has over 2100 posts, and it all okay.

Doesn't anyone else see the problem here? Newbie, who is not at all fimiliar with board, has like 7 posts make a post like this and the flame throwers roll out.

Someone who is extremely active on the board, and very immature I might add, asks a very elementary, and very unresearched questions and no one finds that at all odd.
 
no, he doesnt deserve a bomb just based on the fact the whole concept is gizay

the clen faq by bigandy69 is in the best of elitefitness forum
it covers everything but why not to do the on/off cycle longer than 12 weeks. as far as i know the jury is still out on the exact reason, but giving your body an extended break from clen seems like a good idea after 6 2 wk cycles anyway
 
black sheep said:
If he was a newbie with like 3 threads you would be flaming the hell out of him for not doing any research.

He has over 2100 posts, and it all okay.

Doesn't anyone else see the problem here? Newbie, who is not at all fimiliar with board, has like 7 posts make a post like this and the flame throwers roll out.

Someone who is extremely active on the board, and very immature I might add, asks a very elementary, and very unresearched questions and no one finds that at all odd.
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LMFAO Pops,
What are you a 45-50 year old man (no offense to the other who i am coo with :)). Who's the one with a hairy nut sack for his elitefitness avatar? Fucking faggot. You're pissed cuz I drop bombs on your nutsack all the time. BTW, as stupid as my question(s) may sound or regardless of how immature you may think my tude is up in here...I guarantee I have more education in me than you, your dad, and your other dad.Stay off my threads you'll be fine...hairy nutsack..shave that...one day you'll meet a girl, she'll go down on you and she'll ask next time if you could please shave and use soap on your hairy salty sack :eek2: :goof:
 
detroitbodybuildertigers said:
LMFAO Pops,
What are you a 45-50 year old man (no offense to the other who i am coo with :)). Who's the one with a hairy nut sack for his elitefitness avatar? Fucking faggot. You're pissed cuz I drop bombs on your nutsack all the time. BTW, as stupid as my question(s) may sound or regardless of how immature you may think my tude is up in here...I guarantee I have more education in me than you, your dad, and your other dad.Stay off my threads you'll be fine...hairy nutsack..shave that...one day you'll meet a girl, she'll go down on you and she'll ask next time if you could please shave and use soap on your hairy salty sack :eek2: :goof:
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Nope not 50, but I suspect Radar might take some offense to your age discrimination. I bet he would also be curious as to what exactly my age, or anyone elses has to do with your stupidity,

As for your education, I am sure that you do learn a lot of info from the articles in Playgirl magazine, but as for gear and the BB sport, your an idiot.

Don't be fooled by my Jan 2005 "Join Date", I have been on this board since 2001. You remind me of the newbies with your "What is Clam Butter Oil, and where do I get it?" threads. I was here reading and learning while you were still jacking off to Sparky Anderson pictures (Oh wait, you still do that)

As for a girl, I don't need one; Yours keeps me plenty happy. After you take her to the mall and buy her clothes and take her to dinner, she comes to my house to get what she really needs from a real man.

You are a classic example why the Bomb idea is bad, your a dumb ass that pays $12 a month and you can "bomb" people. Does that make you feel like a man? Does it make up for your little dick?

I am through with you, now go back to your baseball card collection, and jacking off to the Sparky Anderson poster hanging over your bed.
 
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Don't get other people involved in this I have no beef with them, you old fucker...
LOL you're older than 50 huh? Saving that $12/month for apt. rent cuz ur single and can't find a girl, I mean a Lady for you?
Hmmm..Let me guess, you had to start a new name cuz you got banned?!
Look at those bombs by your name, you're just making enemies here. Congrats
 
detroitbodybuildertigers said:
Don't get other people involved in this I have no beef with them, you old fucker...
LOL you're older than 50 huh? Saving that $12/month for apt. rent cuz ur single and can't find a girl, I mean a Lady for you?
Hmmm..Let me guess, you had to start a new name cuz you got banned?!
Look at those bombs by your name, you're just making enemies here. Congrats
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I couldn't resist droppin' that last bomb on the baby sheep.....

Does that make me bad? :evil:




DIV

:chomp:
 
Mr.X said:
I would try this:

day 1-3: 20mcg/ED
day 4-6: 40mcg/ED
day 7-8: 60mcg/ED
day 9-12: 40mcg/ed
day 13-15: 20mcg/ED

basic cycle of clen, see how it works for you and adjust it to fit your needs.

Mr.X
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So two weeks tops for the cycle? Can the cycle go longer and still be effective?
 
detroitbodybuildertigers said:
So two weeks tops for the cycle? Can the cycle go longer and still be effective?
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I wouldn't go over 2 weeks, your receptors are going to downregulate and eventually you're not going to get the results you want.

Try 2 weeks clen/2 weeks ephedrine, take 1 week off and repeat.

Mr.X
 
Mr.X said:
I wouldn't go over 2 weeks, your receptors are going to downregulate and eventually you're not going to get the results you want.

Try 2 weeks clen/2 weeks ephedrine, take 1 week off and repeat.

Mr.X
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I'm currenly in PCT, Clen is Ok to take PCT and in between cycles and not considered ON correct?
 
detroitbodybuildertigers said:
I'm currenly in PCT, Clen is Ok to take PCT and in between cycles and not considered ON correct?
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I take clen w/ my PCT all the time....

Mr.X
 
detroitbodybuildertigers said:
X- Does taking Clen in PCT give problems to starting a new AAS cycle almost immediately after the Clen cycle. (since receptors are a player in the clen cycle)
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Has never given me any problems or anyone I've worked with.

Mr.X
 
detroitbodybuildertigers said:
Ok, so I"m trying to stay clean for about 12 weeks--I'm on week 3, taking this Clen doesn't technically take me OFF this clean cycle does it
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Clen automatically taints your clean cycle, you are officially dirty..... :worried:



DIV

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DIVISION said:
All I want is cash and thangs, a 500 Benz w/ a baby tiger sportin' flashy rings.......:lmao:


DIV

:chomp:
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brotha's hear me hittin' from like 50 blocks away, I wanna turn it up so that I can go and play high decibals, passin through a residential district, see a few cuties so turn it up like this quick, mira, mira, Mane don't sleep, i got the, i got the i got the woofers in the g-ride....
 
detroitbodybuildertigers said:
Ok, so I"m trying to stay clean for about 12 weeks--I'm on week 3, taking this Clen doesn't technically take me OFF this clean cycle does it
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taking clen doesn't take you off your clean cycle? I'm sorry you lost me

Mr.X
 
Mr.X said:
taking clen doesn't take you off your clean cycle? I'm sorry you lost me

Mr.X
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X,

Ok sorry, I'm in PCT right now...want to continue PCT regularly for the normal amount of weeks, I want to be clean for about 12 weeks, does taking clen for 2-3 of those 12 weeks make my body think im ON for those 2-3 weeks and I will have to make those 2-3 weeks up....does that make any sense :p

Yes Im taking it now :twirl:
 
detroitbodybuildertigers said:
X,

Ok sorry, I'm in PCT right now...want to continue PCT regularly for the normal amount of weeks, I want to be clean for about 12 weeks, does taking clen for 2-3 of those 12 weeks make my body think im ON for those 2-3 weeks and I will have to make those 2-3 weeks up....does that make any sense :p

Yes Im taking it now :twirl:
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Clenbuterol, above all, has a strong anti-catabolic effect, which means it decreases the rate at which protein is reduced in the muscle cell, consequently causing an enlargement of muscle cells. For this reason, numerous athletes use Clenbuterol after steroid treatment to balance the resulting catabolic phase and thus obtain maximum strength and muscle mass.


Taking clen will not in any way interrupt your "Time-Off"
 
black sheep said:
Clenbuterol, above all, has a strong anti-catabolic effect, which means it decreases the rate at which protein is reduced in the muscle cell, consequently causing an enlargement of muscle cells. For this reason, numerous athletes use Clenbuterol after steroid treatment to balance the resulting catabolic phase and thus obtain maximum strength and muscle mass.


Taking clen will not in any way interrupt your "Time-Off"
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Props
 
black sheep said:
You were quick to throw the bomb at me, but no green for helping you out? :rolleyes:
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LOL,
B/C of the bomb I dropped on you...You must spread some Karma around before giving it to black sheep again...

Sorry, I tried. Thanks for your last comment that finally puts an end to this damn post ;)
 
detroitbodybuildertigers said:
LOL,
B/C of the bomb I dropped on you...You must spread some Karma around before giving it to black sheep again...

Sorry, I tried. Thanks for your last comment that finally puts an end to this damn post ;)
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LOL - That is comical :lmao:
 
gjohnson5 said:
Zaiditan (ketotifen) stops the shakes and allows u to use for 6-8 weeks instead of 2 100mcg is the tablet dosage I believe
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Clenbuterol is a beta 2 agonist which has a limited anabolic effect during its first few days of use and afterward is normally used to fight fat. At higher doses, however, it can be catabolic to muscle and it must be cycled on a 2 week on, 2 week of basis or the beta 2 receptors that clen binds to become saturated and down regulate.

Ketotifen’s magic is that it up regulates the beta-receptors including the beta 2s that clen uses. As long as you are taking ketotifen, it will continue to clean these receptors, never allowing them to down regulate – even while on a heavy clen cycle. That means you can continue to take clen indefinitely without having to cycle off to regenerate the receptors. 2-3mg ED can up regulate even severely shut down receptors within a week.

It also means that you don’t need as much clen to get the same benefits. It seems u can take about 30-40% less clen and it be equally effective. Someone had posted that it also increases the number of receptor sites on the surface of the cell, allowing more clen to attach and perhaps this is the reason for the increased efficacy. Ketotifen also seems to lessen the sides of clen including the jitters.
 
black sheep said:
It seems odd to me with as much activity you have on this board you know nothing about clen. I guess if you have never been interested in it, you must not have read about it in the past.

The half life of clen is about 36 hours, so you only need to take it once per day. I take my whole dose in the AM, once a day.

Taking Taurine and Potassium will help with cramps and headaches, which are the two main sides (Besides the shakes, which are normal)

I would start at 40 mcg for day 1 and 2 then 80 day 3 and 4, and day 5 go up to 120 mcg if you can handle it. Stay at 120 for the rest of a 2 week period. Run it along with 2mg daily of Ketotifen and you can run clen for 6 weeks strait. Back the Clen dosage down, as the Ketotifen makes it more effective. I max at 80-100mcg of clen when taking ketotifen.
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Bump for roidpurple, good info
 
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