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Frackal
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I'm sure that the parties haven't changed a bit since Lincoln
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Frackal
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And btw the goal of many libertarians is to return the country more to its original form and rid itself of this congested big government largely brought on by your corporate sell-out piece of shit excuse for a political party
atlantabiolab
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SV2 said:
This from the man who effectively enslaved the south to the north.
there is no such thing as an original libertarian thought.. it's an extreme counter reaction to communism... basically communisms polar opposite... Heh.. how original??
The GOP is a nice blend between the two, a free market with government checks and balances..
As we have seen, Enron, Worldcom et al.. with out government watch dogs, big business will exploit the people.
The GOP is a nice blend between the two, a free market with government checks and balances..
As we have seen, Enron, Worldcom et al.. with out government watch dogs, big business will exploit the people.
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BTW I dont agree with every libertarian issue, but I certainly haven't seen anything great come out of the republican party, that's for sure... at least libertarians believe in civil liberties.
And did you ever think that it may be beneficial to have a couple etra viable parties to choose from? That way you idiots couldn't blame dems for everything while the democrat morons turn right back around blaming you...meanwhile nothing gets solved at all
Read that part about the dems and repubs making it extremely difficult for a 3rd party to get a chance...that's fucking Treasonous in my view.
And did you ever think that it may be beneficial to have a couple etra viable parties to choose from? That way you idiots couldn't blame dems for everything while the democrat morons turn right back around blaming you...meanwhile nothing gets solved at all
Read that part about the dems and repubs making it extremely difficult for a 3rd party to get a chance...that's fucking Treasonous in my view.
atlantabiolab
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SV2 said:
Actually, the current libertarianism is not the anarcho-syndecalism that more of Communism's antithesis. Unless you call Jeffersonian Republicanism anarchy.
Your joking, right?
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DcupSheepNipples
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SV2 said:
By the way I'm not a libertarian! I'm an Independent free thinker! No one can or ever will be able to "Classify" the Dcup! No matter how you see old Abe, his quote says it best for me! Dread the day when the US faction fails and implodes!
"All the armies of Europe, Asia and Africa combined, with all the treasure of the earth (our own excepted) in their military chest, with a Bonaparte for a commander, could not, by force, take a drink from the Ohio, or make a track on the Blue Ridge, in a trial of a thousand years. At what point, then, is the approach of danger to be expected? I answer, if it ever reach us, it must spring up amongst us; it cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author andfinisher. As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide." - Abraharn Lincoln, January 27, 1837.
America - wither goest thou? Today, the United States has no major rival on the inlernational stage. For it to falter, to fall, it would be as Abraham Lincoln said, "If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher." To listen to talk show radio across the country, to read endless journals - from the far right, to the moderate, to the far left - the same message continues to appear. America is ill. The symptoms of this illness are manifested in what many see as:
rising crime;
increased youth and gang violence;
a widespread drug epidemic;
softness of the penal system;
corruption in government;
crippling taxes;
erosion of Constitutional rights;
excessive government regulations or interference in private lives;
more government controls;
the erosion of moral values and religion;
the failure of education;
too much involvement in foreign wars;
increased illegal immigration;
excessive federal mandates on the states;
a growing bureaucracy at all levels of government;
homelessness is on the rise;
welfare is expanding;
communicable diseases are on the rise;
a declining economy; and
lack of trust in government. - Harry V. Martin
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DcupSheepNipples
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Frackal said:
Federal Reserve Act!
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ariolanine
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SV2 said:
Big business exploited them with the government watchdogs and for the record, the people that lost everything at Enron were morons. They put ALL of the their retirement money into ONE company. That is the stupidest thing you can do. I don't feel sorry for them in the least bit. Greed and stupidity are a weakness that some people cannot overcome.
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Frackal
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But many libertarian ideals could be integrated
Dcup..kennedy didnt create the Fed did he?
Dcup..kennedy didnt create the Fed did he?
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DcupSheepNipples
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Frackal said:
1913 is when the act was created! Executive Order 11110 was JFKs association with the act!
Executive Order 11110
AMENDMENT OF EXECUTIVE ORDER NO. 10289 AS AMENDED, RELATING TO THE PERFORMANCE OF CERTAIN FUNCTIONS AFFECTING THE DEPARTMENT OF THE TREASURY. By virtue of the authority vested in me by section 301 of title 3 of the United States Code, it is ordered as follows:
SECTION 1. Executive Order No. 10289 of September 19, 1951, as amended, is hereby further amended - (a) By adding at the end of paragraph 1 thereof the following subparagraph (j): "(j) The authority vested in the President by paragraph (b) of section 43 of the Act of May 12, 1933, as amended (31 U.S.C. 821 (b)), to issue silver certificates against any silver bullion, silver, or standard silver dollars in the Treasury not then held for redemption of any outstanding silver certificates, to prescribe the denominations of such silver certificates, and to coin standard silver dollars and subsidiary silver currency for their redemption," and (b) By revoking subparagraphs (b) and (c) of paragraph 2 thereof. SECTION 2. The amendment made by this Order shall not affect any act done, or any right accruing or accrued or any suit or proceeding had or commenced in any civil or criminal cause prior to the date of this Order but all such liabilities shall continue and may be enforced as if said amendments had not been made.
JOHN F. KENNEDY THE WHITE HOUSE, June 4, 1963
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ariolanine
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SV2 said:
I think you don't understand. Greed and stupidity will keep us in the status quo and prevent the more fair system (liberatarianism) from ever occurring.
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Frackal
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I don't think SV2 understands modern libertarian idealisms... I wouldnt classify myself a libertarian absolute, BUT I agree with a majority of their ideas; the core of which being minimal intrusion into our private lives by the inherently corrupt and congested entity known as government !
make sure you fully understand the platform before you pull the lever frack... I dont see you as a libertarian at all... you are a conservative democrat if anything...
Libertarians are selling people lies, most of them are whack jobs. I apprieciate your support for less government intervention, trust me I do, but a swing to the libertarian party is way to far... IMHO
Libertarians are selling people lies, most of them are whack jobs. I apprieciate your support for less government intervention, trust me I do, but a swing to the libertarian party is way to far... IMHO
atlantabiolab
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SV2 said:
Without supporting arguments, what do we have to believe your statement that "Libertarians are selling people lies.."?
collegiateLifter
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as much as i understand it, libertarians have a lot of good ideas, but a lot of terrible ones aswell. They have interesting, shall we say, aproaches to free rider issues like securtiy. I disagree with getting rid of the FBI, and have no problem with some direct taxation as it is largely neccessary with our modern gov, although it should be less, corresponding to a shrinkin fed gov. I would like a return to federalism and having liberties that aren't just seen as inconvenient. It's a mixed bag.
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