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Checkmatebloated
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Jackson Spoke last night. I watched a bit of hit. He just said he and his people are going to minister and help. He did not say much else. And he should not!!
He said about all he should of said in my opion. This is the first time I was not offended by what was coming out of his mouth.
He said about all he should of said in my opion. This is the first time I was not offended by what was coming out of his mouth.
he might be a muslim but i doubt hes inhuman
even if he didnt care many black and muslim people would have died that day
his religion doesnt define him. people in plaestine wept at the news, some stared transfixed to the TV in shock/horror, the media decided to only show those in the street...creating the image all muslims r scum...not all just those ones
even if he didnt care many black and muslim people would have died that day
his religion doesnt define him. people in plaestine wept at the news, some stared transfixed to the TV in shock/horror, the media decided to only show those in the street...creating the image all muslims r scum...not all just those ones
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danielson said:he might be a muslim but i doubt hes inhuman
even if he didnt care many black and muslim people would have died that day
you forgot to say... " and some cheered"
Those bovine bastards. I can only hope we vaporize their camel riding asses.
Racist.... maybe....... pissed.... for sure!
Slice of Peach2
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Farakhan is not a "real" muslim.
Slice of Peach2
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Badkins21 said:
The Black Muslims in this country do not practice true Islam. I have talked to an African American friend of mine about this. I will get him to post his views on Farakhan.
guys there are like two different types of muslims, the ones who follow mohammed, if I spelled wrong forgive me......anyway ones that can be white, chinese, russian, black.......and then ones like bin laden who are terrorists and declare the USA and its christianity for destroying foreign countries with their religious escapades that make other cultures inferior.
Captain_insano
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Slice of Peach2 said:
Please define "real" muslim..know it all..they all pray to Allah and look to Mecca for prayer!
The Nation of Islam (NoI) is not true Islam.
NoI looks to Elijah Muhammad as a prophet and they believe that all white people were created by an evil black scientist. They believe that white people are the devil, and that a spaceship is coming for them.
I spoke about this during a cab ride I took on night while I was still living in NYC. The cabbie was Muslim and a very decent guy who was trying to support his family. He didn't care that I am Jewish.
When I asked him about Nation of Islam, he got very angry and made sure that I knew that they did not follow the Prophet Muhammad, and they made up alot of hateful stuff.
If you watch Spike Lee's "Malcolm X," you'll see taht Malcolm X had his eyes opened when he made pilgrimage to Mecca and saw all the different races that were Moslem. He and the Nation of Islam parted ways over this, and it is rumored that they killed him.
NoI looks to Elijah Muhammad as a prophet and they believe that all white people were created by an evil black scientist. They believe that white people are the devil, and that a spaceship is coming for them.
I spoke about this during a cab ride I took on night while I was still living in NYC. The cabbie was Muslim and a very decent guy who was trying to support his family. He didn't care that I am Jewish.
When I asked him about Nation of Islam, he got very angry and made sure that I knew that they did not follow the Prophet Muhammad, and they made up alot of hateful stuff.
If you watch Spike Lee's "Malcolm X," you'll see taht Malcolm X had his eyes opened when he made pilgrimage to Mecca and saw all the different races that were Moslem. He and the Nation of Islam parted ways over this, and it is rumored that they killed him.
Slice of Peach2
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Captain_insano said:
I think Weapon X just proved my point!! Jackass!
weaponx, that is what I was trying to inform people of, malxom x was going to expose the evil muslims who were diverted from the true muslims who followed muhammed, but when the new terror minded muslims found out malcomx was going to expose the extremist muslims, they supposedly killed him!
no disrespect intended here, but the info is a little off.
not sure if the words of a cabbie, should be used to represent the thinkings of an entire culture / religion. this is too much responsibility for one person to have. but if the people of middle eastern descent dislike Louis Farrakhan and his NOI, maybe you can explain why is it that Quadhafi and a few other middle eastern leaders support his efforts, even financially.
also, NOI, does not perceive Elijah Muhummad to be the prophet. this respect was given to Fahad, who was Muhummad's teacher of the Islamic way of life. Muhummad, is perceived as the messenger and not the prophet.
you see the Islamic / Muslim religion has many sects. there are the sunni and the shiites just to name 2. if my memory serves me correctly, your cabbie friend sounds like a sunni. someone correct me if i am wrong.
i don't think it is fair to say that the NOI, is not a real religion, just the same as Scientology. the universal rule to being considered a muslim is determined by "the 5 pillars of faith." IMHO, it is all about live and let live. who am i to deny someone this right. t
it may be a good idea, to take the pilgrimage ( "el hajj"), or even ask many sources to cross referencing info b4 casting an opinion about this. my 2cc's
2ez2brich
oh yeah, Spike Lee's representation of Malcom X's life was a little off. he will tell you that himself. long story short, a lot of edits were done due to financial reasons. if you can recall the time the movie was made Lee went to Oprah and Mike Jordan just to name a few, because the funds had ran out. do yourself a favor and read the more accurate representation written by Alex Haley (of Root's fame) straigth from the horses mouth.
not sure if the words of a cabbie, should be used to represent the thinkings of an entire culture / religion. this is too much responsibility for one person to have. but if the people of middle eastern descent dislike Louis Farrakhan and his NOI, maybe you can explain why is it that Quadhafi and a few other middle eastern leaders support his efforts, even financially.
also, NOI, does not perceive Elijah Muhummad to be the prophet. this respect was given to Fahad, who was Muhummad's teacher of the Islamic way of life. Muhummad, is perceived as the messenger and not the prophet.
you see the Islamic / Muslim religion has many sects. there are the sunni and the shiites just to name 2. if my memory serves me correctly, your cabbie friend sounds like a sunni. someone correct me if i am wrong.
i don't think it is fair to say that the NOI, is not a real religion, just the same as Scientology. the universal rule to being considered a muslim is determined by "the 5 pillars of faith." IMHO, it is all about live and let live. who am i to deny someone this right. t
it may be a good idea, to take the pilgrimage ( "el hajj"), or even ask many sources to cross referencing info b4 casting an opinion about this. my 2cc's
2ez2brich
oh yeah, Spike Lee's representation of Malcom X's life was a little off. he will tell you that himself. long story short, a lot of edits were done due to financial reasons. if you can recall the time the movie was made Lee went to Oprah and Mike Jordan just to name a few, because the funds had ran out. do yourself a favor and read the more accurate representation written by Alex Haley (of Root's fame) straigth from the horses mouth.
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2EZ2BRICH, I've studied Islam on my own also. Please note that one work I referenced was KAren Armstrong's "History of God." That was merely the first book I read which started making me appreciate Islam.
So no high horses are necessary here. I mentioned the cabby as a contact with one Moslem who was angered by the Nation of Islam, not as my only source of info.
"Louis Gene Walcott Farrakhan is not a Muslim, nor is his doctrine Islam. Farrakhan is the leader of a black racist cult called "the Nation of Islam," (NOI) founded in Detroit, Michigan in the 1930's. While the group calls its followers Muslims, in reality, they have very little to do with the faith of Islam. Islam believes in the total transcendance of almighty God (called in Arabic, Allah), the NOI teaches that black people are angelic gods. Islam maintains universal brotherhood, the NOI says that Islam is for blacks only. Islam teaches that prophethood ended with Muhammad ibn Abdullah, more than 1400 years ago. The NOI teaches that Farrakhan's teacher, Elijah Muhammad, is the last prophet. Islam teaches principles of spiritual and moral decorum such prayer, fasting, charity, pilgimage, etc., Elijah Muhammad cast these out or altered them beyond recognition."
http://www.islaam.com/sunnah/noi.htm
"Washington Post researcher Karl Evanzz has written the comprehensive biography of Elijah Muhammad, NOI's co-founder and "prophet," "
http://www.salon.com/books/feature/2000/01/06/muhammad/
"2. PROPHET/MESSENGER
ISLAM: Muhammad (S) is the last Prophet and the last Messenger. No messenger or prophet will come after Muhammad (S).
FARRAKHANISM: Elijah Muhammad was a Messenger of Allah. Are there any more messengers or prophets to come? Not clear. "
http://www.beconvinced.com/RELIGION/FARAHK.htm
So no high horses are necessary here. I mentioned the cabby as a contact with one Moslem who was angered by the Nation of Islam, not as my only source of info.
"Louis Gene Walcott Farrakhan is not a Muslim, nor is his doctrine Islam. Farrakhan is the leader of a black racist cult called "the Nation of Islam," (NOI) founded in Detroit, Michigan in the 1930's. While the group calls its followers Muslims, in reality, they have very little to do with the faith of Islam. Islam believes in the total transcendance of almighty God (called in Arabic, Allah), the NOI teaches that black people are angelic gods. Islam maintains universal brotherhood, the NOI says that Islam is for blacks only. Islam teaches that prophethood ended with Muhammad ibn Abdullah, more than 1400 years ago. The NOI teaches that Farrakhan's teacher, Elijah Muhammad, is the last prophet. Islam teaches principles of spiritual and moral decorum such prayer, fasting, charity, pilgimage, etc., Elijah Muhammad cast these out or altered them beyond recognition."
http://www.islaam.com/sunnah/noi.htm
"Washington Post researcher Karl Evanzz has written the comprehensive biography of Elijah Muhammad, NOI's co-founder and "prophet," "
http://www.salon.com/books/feature/2000/01/06/muhammad/
"2. PROPHET/MESSENGER
ISLAM: Muhammad (S) is the last Prophet and the last Messenger. No messenger or prophet will come after Muhammad (S).
FARRAKHANISM: Elijah Muhammad was a Messenger of Allah. Are there any more messengers or prophets to come? Not clear. "
http://www.beconvinced.com/RELIGION/FARAHK.htm
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GLP said:
what??? Ga is no longer like that. GA is filled with left wing liberal snivelers.
Checkmatebloated
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Slice, Isano speaks the truth. Why you so angry. Did he dive and slid that cooch also? I bet he did this is the only reason girl show anger towards the man.
What's up 2ez. You got loved ones or friends in this disaster?
What's up 2ez. You got loved ones or friends in this disaster?
not sure what you mean by high horse iron brother. also, there is another sect of the muslim faith that believe Muhummad Abdullah, was not the prophet.
FYI, i'm not into the faith, just have done a little looking into the religion. you can line 5 people, who consider themselves to be muslim and get 5 different perspective on the faith. your articles didn't mention anything about the 5 pillars, which is a pretty important issue in the faith. living in NY , until recently, have been a beautiful thing. i am fortunate enough to have come in contact of many people from all walks of life who are willing to share their experiences, beliefs, ideas, thoughts and notions with me. the type of stuff you can't get from a text book or a periodical.
Checkmate;
hey what's up big guy. yeah bro, i'm a trader. can't find a few of my colleagues. still waiting patiently. a lot did make it out. i'm a little pissed that we were asked to come in to work today. showing no respect for those who have fallen. there is no market today and yet we are here, just because. i believe we all should be out volunteering somewhere.
2ez2brich
FYI, i'm not into the faith, just have done a little looking into the religion. you can line 5 people, who consider themselves to be muslim and get 5 different perspective on the faith. your articles didn't mention anything about the 5 pillars, which is a pretty important issue in the faith. living in NY , until recently, have been a beautiful thing. i am fortunate enough to have come in contact of many people from all walks of life who are willing to share their experiences, beliefs, ideas, thoughts and notions with me. the type of stuff you can't get from a text book or a periodical.
Checkmate;
hey what's up big guy. yeah bro, i'm a trader. can't find a few of my colleagues. still waiting patiently. a lot did make it out. i'm a little pissed that we were asked to come in to work today. showing no respect for those who have fallen. there is no market today and yet we are here, just because. i believe we all should be out volunteering somewhere.
2ez2brich
2EZ, I was just bristling at the im[plication that I hadn't done my homework. If that's not what you intended, I apologize.
In the wonderfully meritocratic world of eCommerce, I work with several Moslems and have spoken much with them about our respective faiths.
Also, I lived 20 years of my life in NYC (Bronx & Manhattan), and also have been exposed to many cultures, including NOI.
While every faith has variations amongst its practitioners, each also has a core set of beliefes, and I am referring to NOI core beliefs.
In addition, here in Seattle within the last 2 years, I have been called a "white devil" by a coupla black chicks on a Metro bus. They were upset that I was talking to a lovely woman who worked near me. I was trying to get digits, and they started grilling her about her blackness. They got upset with her for not listening to Tupac. Then they told me that they would piss on me from heaven while I burned in Hell.
Peace, bro.
In the wonderfully meritocratic world of eCommerce, I work with several Moslems and have spoken much with them about our respective faiths.
Also, I lived 20 years of my life in NYC (Bronx & Manhattan), and also have been exposed to many cultures, including NOI.
While every faith has variations amongst its practitioners, each also has a core set of beliefes, and I am referring to NOI core beliefs.
In addition, here in Seattle within the last 2 years, I have been called a "white devil" by a coupla black chicks on a Metro bus. They were upset that I was talking to a lovely woman who worked near me. I was trying to get digits, and they started grilling her about her blackness. They got upset with her for not listening to Tupac. Then they told me that they would piss on me from heaven while I burned in Hell.
Peace, bro.
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i read my post again, and do understand how you could have interpreted that way....my apologies for that.
the issue involving the muslim faith has been something i have tried to understand for the longest. i think what first got me interested, was the fact that i am a big Kareem Abdul Jabbar, fan and when there was a bombing some 25yrs ago, Jabbar had to hire bodyguards to protect him at all the games that season. I asked my Father to explain this to me and he suggested that i open up a book and read on the subject.
sorry for the long wording, just wanted to explain where my curiosity started into the muslim/moslem believe.
have a good day iron brother...
ehehehehe
2ez2brich
the issue involving the muslim faith has been something i have tried to understand for the longest. i think what first got me interested, was the fact that i am a big Kareem Abdul Jabbar, fan and when there was a bombing some 25yrs ago, Jabbar had to hire bodyguards to protect him at all the games that season. I asked my Father to explain this to me and he suggested that i open up a book and read on the subject.
sorry for the long wording, just wanted to explain where my curiosity started into the muslim/moslem believe.
have a good day iron brother...
ehehehehe2ez2brich
No sweat. I was amazed when I actually read the history of Islam and how Mohammed benefited the Arabic peoples so much with Islam and teh culture that developed around it. I was also amazed that they respected Jews so much in the beginning.
I wish that they could get that culture back.
I wish that they could get that culture back.
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dballer
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Weapon X said:2EZ, I was just bristling at the im[plication that I hadn't done my homework. If that's not what you intended, I apologize.
In the wonderfully meritocratic world of eCommerce, I work with several Moslems and have spoken much with them about our respective faiths.
Also, I lived 20 years of my life in NYC (Bronx & Manhattan), and also have been exposed to many cultures, including NOI.
While every faith has variations amongst its practitioners, each also has a core set of beliefes, and I am referring to NOI core beliefs.
In addition, here in Seattle within the last 2 years, I have been called a "white devil" by a coupla black chicks on a Metro bus. They were upset that I was talking to a lovely woman who worked near me. I was trying to get digits, and they started grilling her about her blackness. They got upset with her for not listening to Tupac. Then they told me that they would piss on me from heaven while I burned in Hell.
Peace, bro.
This happens Atlanta quite often, Blacks make up over 92% of the city... so that makes me a minority. I hear the "Devil" and "Whitey" shit all the time. It just makes me laugh.. I know they will be making the same comments on the same corner waiting for the check to come in the mail..... just like they have for the last 20 years. You just gotta let it go in one ear and out the other. They are just as worthless as the KluKluxKlan.... all a bunch of assholes.
Checkmatebloated
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Well I know Texans has their thought and prayers with all who this has touched.
has anyone here seen or heard of the Black Israelites ?? I first noticed the group in times square. also, heard them speak while living in Philly, PA. their thinking is that the original jews where black.
here is a link: http://www.kingdomofyah.com/
2ez2brich
here is a link: http://www.kingdomofyah.com/
2ez2brich
Weapon X said:2EZ, I was just bristling at the im[plication that I hadn't done my homework. If that's not what you intended, I apologize.
In the wonderfully meritocratic world of eCommerce, I work with several Moslems and have spoken much with them about our respective faiths.
Also, I lived 20 years of my life in NYC (Bronx & Manhattan), and also have been exposed to many cultures, including NOI.
While every faith has variations amongst its practitioners, each also has a core set of beliefes, and I am referring to NOI core beliefs.
In addition, here in Seattle within the last 2 years, I have been called a "white devil" by a coupla black chicks on a Metro bus. They were upset that I was talking to a lovely woman who worked near me. I was trying to get digits, and they started grilling her about her blackness. They got upset with her for not listening to Tupac. Then they told me that they would piss on me from heaven while I burned in Hell.
Peace, bro.
That is really sad and a continuing sign of ignorance. It reminds me of a time a year ago that my friends told me to stop talking to a blonde I was trying to get at. I guess she told all of them while I wasn't there if her family knew she was talking to a nigger, they would disown her. Her last name was Weiss. The funny thing was she in a room of guys whose last name were Valencia, Armijo, Archuleta, Acaba and Ramirez, all half latinos half causcasian. As my dear old Italian blonde hair blue-eyed aunt tells me " 80% of the world is below average"
Slice of Peach2
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Checkmatebloated said:
Hey!!!
I will let your rude comment slide since you live in TX. What truth does he speak? Huh? I made a comment and he jumped my ass for no reason, I believe Weapon X proved my point about Farakhan. He is not a "real" muslim. "Real" as in a muslim who practices Islamic faith.
The other day someone basically called Insano an unintelligent, did he jump their ass? No, he ignores them and jumps my ass for my comment. The Doghouse people need to back the fuck off. I am not fucking leaving, I have as much a right to be here as they do and I am a MOD!!!! If you don't like me, fine, don't talk to me, but stop harrassing me!
Thank you!
satanic goatslayer
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Slice of Peach2 said:
Obviously not due to your intelligence. Maybe dishonesty and promiscuity helped you out.
Rhymes with Flat Moor.
Slice of Peach2
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mrbill said:
No, it's mean and hateful, but that is expected from the like of SG.
He's wrong anyway.
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