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Which is better?
Levorex VS. ZIP!
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lartinos
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I've only used levorex and found it to be one of the best products ever invented.
Ummmm lets seeeee....you there! Ulter!
But come on! Seriously though! What is wrong with Zip? It's got much higher levels of L-tyrosine,kelp,selenium...etc etc.
macrophage69alpha
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Carth said:
nothing is "wrong" with it, those are all adequate ingredients. though most people get more than enough selenium and iodine (kelp).
But as a stand alone, it does not compare.
as a note to your point...
you also need 3-4 times as much tyrosine to get the same effect as acetyl-l-tyrosine.
33 grams of tyrosine per bottle of zip
9 grams of acetyl-l-tyrosine per bottle of levorex (and bearing in mind its considered to be a supportive not primary ingredient)
given bioavailability its an equal or greater amount
lartinos said:
How is this Levorex taken? 2, 3, 4 pills? How many times per day? Did you lose fat?
So Levorex IS NOT A STIMULANT? I've taken stims for such a long time....that now they work the opposite way. I need to take many months off before I can even look at another stim again. Will levorex hinder my recuperation? Also, ZIPs indgredients are so-called to stimulate the Thyroid. Does Levorex stimulate the Thyroid? Or does it just help in burning fat via other ways?
Look, I'm starting a fight here with you guys. Just want to clear things up for myself...that's all. But your telling me these indgredients per serving of ZIP! are no good? That Levorex is much better?
Acetyl L-Tyrosine 1200 mgs
7-Keto DHEA 75 mgs
Olive Leaf Extract 6%Oleuropein 2000 mgs
Desiccated Thyroid Gland Extract 1/4 grain
Selenium 100 mcgs
Molybdenum 50 mcgs
Kelp 125 mgs
Synephrine (6%) 500 mg
Acetyl L-Tyrosine 1200 mgs
7-Keto DHEA 75 mgs
Olive Leaf Extract 6%Oleuropein 2000 mgs
Desiccated Thyroid Gland Extract 1/4 grain
Selenium 100 mcgs
Molybdenum 50 mcgs
Kelp 125 mgs
Synephrine (6%) 500 mg
Levorex enhances the natural thermogenic and lipolytic action of your body without the use of strong stimulants like ephedra. The novel vanilloid receptor agonist EvoPure addresses a previously undeveloped but important thermogenic pathway.Levorex is a stimulant free thermogenic and lipolytic formula. It enhances your body's ability to burn fat as well as enhancing your metabolism. Most fat burners work by speeding you up.
The ingredients in ZIP are good.
The ingredients in Levorex are considerably better.
ZIP has an influence on your thyroid.
Leverox works by increasing your body temp, the same way DNP does (not as much of course), and increasing your metabolism.
ZIP is very mild in it's effectiveness comparatively.
BTW ZIP uses synephrine which IS a stimulant.
The ingredients in ZIP are good.
The ingredients in Levorex are considerably better.
ZIP has an influence on your thyroid.
Leverox works by increasing your body temp, the same way DNP does (not as much of course), and increasing your metabolism.
ZIP is very mild in it's effectiveness comparatively.
BTW ZIP uses synephrine which IS a stimulant.
Well, I don't know if you know this. But taking GH will lower T3. That is why I always take T3 while on GH. But of course you can only stay on T3 6-9 weeks the most. But once the T3 is done...I'm still on GH. I need to keep stimulating that Thryoid to produce more T3. So wouldn't ZIP do the job because of it's ingredients? And especially because of the desiccatd thyroid gland extract?
macrophage69alpha
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synephrine is a CNS stimulant- so it is not stimulant free
there is not enough 7-keto, 200mg/day orally is pretty much the low end for effectiveness
oleuropein is an interesting ingredient but the research is weak, it is a good anti-oxident.
its has a lot of tyrosine, which is good.
but on the whole is it comparable to levorex.. no.
its not a bad formula, its just not a great one. given the cost of the raws, its over priced as well.
there is not enough 7-keto, 200mg/day orally is pretty much the low end for effectiveness
oleuropein is an interesting ingredient but the research is weak, it is a good anti-oxident.
its has a lot of tyrosine, which is good.
but on the whole is it comparable to levorex.. no.
its not a bad formula, its just not a great one. given the cost of the raws, its over priced as well.
macrophage69alpha
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Carth said:
this actually contains thryoid, that is the only impact it has. though some dessicants may contain a lot and others little. since its animal based there is no way to test a "batch" for content.
Ok, Ulter...did you read what I said above?
Carth, You say you need something for your off T3 cycle. So you want to know if that ingredient is a good substitution for T3. Well it might be. But you won't know for sure because there is no way to measure how potent the material is when it's made. So it may be a good batch, it may not.
We could have added that ingredient to Levorex. We didn't though because we'd like to know what's in our bottle and when you buy it from the manufacturer they don't know either.
We could have added that ingredient to Levorex. We didn't though because we'd like to know what's in our bottle and when you buy it from the manufacturer they don't know either.
macrophage69alpha
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ulter said:
this is not entirely accurate, not the whole bottle but merely the thyroid extract.
actually some manufacturing companies will wash it in thryoid salts to achieve desired concentrations, though you have to know who they are
.its not a stupid ingredient, but its less reliable one.
macrophage69alpha
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keep in mind that thyroid has a VERY long half life so when you take it for 9 weeks.. its probably more like 12 or more (will look at the exact pharmacokenetics later).
as to your specific question... it will help, but a different formulation using some of the same ingredients would be better.
the 7k-dhea is one of the more proven ones (in some models), but its just not enough.
as to your specific question... it will help, but a different formulation using some of the same ingredients would be better.
the 7k-dhea is one of the more proven ones (in some models), but its just not enough.
Ok, bottom line, Since I can't use T3 anymore while On GH...then what do I use. And off the GH...what do I use?
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lartinos
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why not just take the 7-keto along with levorex. 2-4 pills with each meal is the suggested does BTW, I took 4 pills twice a day when I came off clen and kept ALL of my fat off.
Don't know....arrrrghhh!!! Need more info on these 2. Which one to pick for MY PURPOSES?
Nothing is going to take the place of T3.
I really think you're making too much of the GH/T3 situation.
I just come off the T3 for 6 weeks. I have never found it to cause a noticable fat gain.
Levorex will burn off more fat than ZIP, by far.
I really think you're making too much of the GH/T3 situation.
I just come off the T3 for 6 weeks. I have never found it to cause a noticable fat gain.
Levorex will burn off more fat than ZIP, by far.
Fine! I'll get it and use it. But if it doesn't work Ulter! I'm coming for you bro. I'm only a 3 hour drive away!
I'm 5' 9" and weigh 192lbs. How many tabs should I take and how many times per day? How many tabs come in a bottle BTW?
$80 on a bottle that will only last me 30 days?!
Ulter! This better work or I'm coming for ya! LOL BTW...now that we're chatting here. Do Stimulants like ECA, ECY,ECAY stacks...clenbuterol...blah blah blah lower T3? I mean...when I'm done using them...is my thyroid low?
I've never noticed that. My T3 levels have always come back the same when I use Thermo's. I tested normal on NYC and on Thermorexin so I would assume the rest are the same. I haven't tested with Clen though.
Note: All our products are money back guaranteed. If it doesn't work for you we don't want your money.
Note: All our products are money back guaranteed. If it doesn't work for you we don't want your money.
I'll give it a try then. 4 caps 3 times a day right? Can I take it late at night? or will this not allow me to sleep? What should I expect from this levorex? How do I know it is working?
wutangnomo
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ulter said:
Really?? Seriously now you being for real with this statement?? If so, then I will try a bottle of thermorexin. With all the rave reviews I've been hearing about it I will have to try it out.
No bro! They are for real on this.
wutangnomo
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Carth said:
Well if that's the case I am very impressed. They are that confident in their product so at least it deserves to be tried. I tried Yohimburn way back in the past and must admit that I got compliments that my face was leaner (which is the only area I applied it).
