Lean Bloat-Free Muscle- What To Use???

[Texas Ranger]

Guys, what would you recommend to an experienced bodybuilder(7-10+ years of training) on a First Cycle seeking LEAN, quality bloat-free muscle while keeping it SIMPLE?? I know Primo & Anavar would be ideal here, but they costs too DAMN much. Then, having to go through the hassle wondering if they're real or not. Let me throw some options out there and get your OWN opinion as well. 1.) Test Enanthate@300-600mgs/wk 2.) Test Enanthate@300-400mgs/wk & EQ@300mgs/wk 3.) Test Enanthate@300-400mgs/wk with Winstrol@50mgs ED Most, if not all cycles would be ran for 12-16 weeks and Arimidex will be used with each cycle at .5mgs EOD-ED. Opinions please....

 

[Texas Ranger]

Opinions on this, please....

 

[VictorBR]

if you want ZERO bloat , do not use test , even with aromasin you can bloat a lil bit

I would recomend Equipoise , winstroll and var ..


Victor

 

[puddlemonkey]

You'd get minimal boat with a Prop/EQ/Var cycle, or Prop/Primo/Var, or Prop/EQ/Tren Acetate. Can you tell I like Prop? Also, a couple UGs make Primo thats been lab tested and is also affordable.

 

[Texas Ranger]

if you want ZERO bloat , do not use test , even with aromasin you can bloat a lil bit

I would recomend Equipoise , winstroll and var ..


Victor

How does your joints hold up on Winstrol? Are you still able to train heavy??

 

[hrt39]

Injectable Winny and Inj. Nandrolone (Deca) should do the trick, if your Dr. will prescribe them for you.

 

[Texas Ranger]

Up

 

[Slyder190]

Just stay away from tests, anadrol and d-bol for starters. Anti-e's can help combat bloating, although I know using D-bol always bloats me. Try Prop and Winny with an anti-e. If your diet is in check, you should still have a solid cycle with minimum bloat, even with the Prop.

 

[Texas Ranger]

Ok, well maybe I should say "almost" bloat free muscle because I plan on including Test at even a low dose.

 

[Texas Ranger]

Up for more input.

 

[Texas Ranger]

Bump....

 

[georgie24]

eqipoise/winstrol
equipoise/anavar

any of those two stacks

 

[Texas Ranger]

eqipoise/winstrol
equipoise/anavar

any of those two stacks

Georgie, EQ@400mgs/wk & Winstrol(Oral)@50mgs ED both for 12-16 weeks sound good? I know AAP ran this for 30+ weeks without a problem and man he was F***in' ripped!! I seen the pics and the brother had veins on top of veins.

 

[georgie24]

sounds good! if you have the $$$ for var that long go for it, i wouldnt do winny longer than six weeks though

 

[VictorBR]

How does your joints hold up on Winstrol? Are you still able to train heavy??

Have used winny many times , no problem at all with my joints.


Victor

 

[Texas Ranger]

Ok, I spoke to an experienced guy on the board that REALLY knows his shit from A to Z. I'm going to go with Test Enanthate@500mgs for 12 weeks with [email protected] ED & Nolvadex@10mgs ED. The combo of Arimidex & Nolvadex will kill ANY water retention and keep me dry. The Arimidex on it's on will be more then enough. The Nolvadex is more for my lipid levels. But, this is TRULY a simple NO-Bloat muscle builder.

 

[galaxy]

Throw in 50mgs of proviron and you'll get an even grainer look.

 

[wnt2bBeast]

first cycle should be test only..watch your diet and the proper ancillaries will eliminate bloat..i always stick with HG a-dex and have no probs with bloat..yes everyone is different..but you wont know until you try..

 

[Texas Ranger]

Throw in 50mgs of proviron and you'll get an even grainer look.

Yeah, I was thinking about adding them for the final 4-6 weeks to really get that hard, dense look. Thanks for the suggestion, brother!!

 

[THEEGAME2544]

I was using Test, Fina, then dbol at the end of my cycle. Bloated a little from the Test. Once I threw in some femera to combat the dbol bloat, all my bloating disappeared. I pretty lean now as opposed to about 6 weeks ago. So femera did the trick for me to keep the bloat off.

 

[Texas Ranger]

I was using Test, Fina, then dbol at the end of my cycle. Bloated a little from the Test. Once I threw in some femera to combat the dbol bloat, all my bloating disappeared. I pretty lean now as opposed to about 6 weeks ago. So femera did the trick for me to keep the bloat off.

Did the Femara lower your sex drive like so many guys complain about??

 

[bigmusclehead]

Ok, I spoke to an experienced guy on the board that REALLY knows his shit from A to Z. I'm going to go with Test Enanthate@500mgs for 12 weeks with [email protected] ED & Nolvadex@10mgs ED. The combo of Arimidex & Nolvadex will kill ANY water retention and keep me dry. The Arimidex on it's on will be more then enough. The Nolvadex is more for my lipid levels. But, this is TRULY a simple NO-Bloat muscle builder.

noladex for lipids?please explain.

 

[THEEGAME2544]

Did the Femara lower your sex drive like so many guys complain about??

Mmm...not really...maybe a little when by myself. But my girlfriend really turns me on completely so when I'm with her I certainly am turned on! And can't get enough of her. A little Cialis will help during times you think you may need it or during PCT times if your worried.

 

[Deleted member 33117]

eq/winstrol is a good combo for your goals. 400 mg of eq ever week for 12 weeks. Run winstrol on weeks 4-16 at 50 mg ed (25 in the morning and 25 in the afternoon).

I think you will be pleased with the results.

 

[NoWork]

Ok, I spoke to an experienced guy on the board that REALLY knows his shit from A to Z. I'm going to go with Test Enanthate@500mgs for 12 weeks with [email protected] ED & Nolvadex@10mgs ED. The combo of Arimidex & Nolvadex will kill ANY water retention and keep me dry. The Arimidex on it's on will be more then enough. The Nolvadex is more for my lipid levels. But, this is TRULY a simple NO-Bloat muscle builder.

I think this is good advice. I also think .5mg of Adex a day is plenty. I would actually start at half of that and see how you look. Remember, your diet should be your #1 priority in keeping lean.

 

[enzyme]

fina! you know its real cause you made it yourself, and cost nothing. keep it low dose.

 

[baby DBOL]

I am running:

100mg eq ed
100mg fina ed
50mg winstrol ed oral

with 300mg protien from isopure drinks through out the day and i am carved up like a christmas turkey right before the dinner bell ring.

 

[Texas Ranger]

I think this is good advice. I also think .5mg of Adex a day is plenty. I would actually start at half of that and see how you look. Remember, your diet should be your #1 priority in keeping lean.

I agree 100%.