Killing you Liver

[brownpaperbag04]

OK so I'm a college student...it's basically a requirement to drink at least once a week. I want to go on some orals, test, and deca. I've read orals are HORRIBLE on your liver. Do you guys use anything to protect or help your liver stay non-toxic?

 

[thx9000]

Tylers Liver Detox from www.anabolicfitness.net. Also use r-ALA or ALA.

Just do yourself a favor and don't run the orals if this this is the amount of self control you are going to have.

 

[Zagreus]

There are Liver aids such as Tylers and Milk Thistle, however the enzyme CP450 that the body uses to break down the toxicidity of alcohol is also used to break down the toxicidity of AS. With orals in most cases the body does not produce enough CP450 to deal with AS usage. Thus, there will not be enough Cytocrome P 450 to go around and you will experince liver damage. Best advice is not to run a cycle with Frat style drinking unless you want to fuck up your liver. Anyway, anyone whom uses AS should want to maximize their gains though proper diet and training, thus alcohol is not an issue since it is counter productive to gains. If drinking is such an issue for you than you should stay natural as you are not serious about your training or health.

Zag

 

[satchboogie]

this is a great thread for any steroid user.

 

[brownpaperbag04]

yeah i have great willpower....but none of my friends lift...hell i've only told one of my roommates i'm doing steriods. anyway, my position on it is if you're going to drink you should get drunk....otherwise why drink, the taste is usually bad?

I guess if i start the orals i'll stop drinking through the cycle.

I've read though, dark beer is better than any other options since it has more protien than other options.

 

[imortal]

Sorry to be so blunt but after reading your last comment re: Dark beer... I strongly suggest you stay the hell away from steroid usage. Your whole thought process is completely wrong. Take my comment seriously. This is NOT where you are at!!!

 

[Riker29]

Sorry to be so blunt but after reading your last comment re: Dark beer... I strongly suggest you stay the hell away from steroid usage. Your whole thought process is completely wrong. Take my comment seriously. This is NOT where you are at!!!

Agreed.

I love the justifications ... "a requirement to drink at least once a week" and "if you're going to drink you should get drunk".

Its kids like this, that do stupid crap and get in trouble, that create problems for everyone.

Sure, if you want to drink, if you are going to do steroids, fine. Your choice.

But please spare us the BS that its a "requirement" and that you "should get drunk". Those are called CHOICEs son, and please, dont whine to us when you make poor ones.

The funny thing is that there are many people that want to protect people from their own "choices" or want my tax dollars to pay for people who make dumb choices.

So, when DO these kids go back to school anyway? LOL

 

[jubei]

Big surprise another "making fun of HS kids" post by riker.

 

[liftsiron]

Agreed.

I love the justifications ... "a requirement to drink at least once a week" and "if you're going to drink you should get drunk".

Its kids like this, that do stupid crap and get in trouble, that create problems for everyone.

Sure, if you want to drink, if you are going to do steroids, fine. Your choice.

But please spare us the BS that its a "requirement" and that you "should get drunk". Those are called CHOICEs son, and please, dont whine to us when you make poor ones.

The funny thing is that there are many people that want to protect people from their own "choices" or want my tax dollars to pay for people who make dumb choices.

So, when DO these kids go back to school anyway? LOL


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[brownpaperbag04]

You guys read only the parts you want to, how you want to. ...or maybe I should say, I wrote things somewhat sarcastically....and no one got it.

Of course it's a choice to drink, and I said earlier that if I got on orals there will be NO drinking at all... The main point of this thread was to find out how to keep my liver as non-toxic as possible. After I get off dbol or whatever I end up taking I still want a liver left.

Infact...there has only been like 1 post actually about that. So how about trying to bring the topic back to the center of discussion....how about Alpha Lipoic Acid...is it best for detox?

 

[thx9000]

I think the Tyler's Liver Detox is the best for that. Based only on personal experience and blood test results. Plus, I have never bothered to compare my blood work with just ALA or r-ALA and a toxin. Don't want to find out as I already know the TLD works great for me...

 

[spike1205]

milk thistle has also been clinically shown to help improve liver damage

 

[Riker29]

I think you are getting some good feedback here,

Milk Thistle
Tyler's
ALA

between those and being smart about your dose's and how long you take anything, and also not mixing orals w/alcohol .... that would seem to be the consensus from many people.

Nothing personal about the comments from me, you just need to understand that you are making CHOCES. None of those things were a "given" - but getting educated about what to do, and what not to do, and CHOOSING what YOU will do based upon knowledge - is the way to go.

For those that want to follow me around and make derogatory statements about my posts - here's wishing you find something more productive and positive to do with your time. Have a nice day! LOL

 

[Singleton]

OK so I'm a college student...it's basically a requirement to drink at least once a week.

Correct. Social acceptance is the key to success in this world.