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Kian - Help With Stuff

Okay,

I just bought Max Muscle's Big Max 50. The dude at Max Muscle said that I should use a blender even though the box said it is not necesarry.He also said to take it twice a day with 2 scoops. I really want to gain 30 pounds, and I have 3-4 months to do it. currently i weigh about 125... I'm a freshman in highschool, and I'm trying to gain weight for basketball so I can get on varsity next year. My friend calculated that I eat 2500 calories a day, and said I should eat 3000/ day to get a 1 pound a week increase. Problem is, I only have about 17 weeks to do this and in 17 weeks, I would have only gained 17 pounds. To gain 30 pounds in 17 weeks mean I need to gain ALMOST 2 pounds a week. People please help me out and give me tips on how to reach my goal!

Thanks In Advance
 
Eat the most amount of food that you could possible eat, and then eat more. Hit the weight room hard, no cardio. Gaining weight is all about eating.

At 125# you are looking to just gain any weight that you can, because that is skinny as hell. So you are going to put fat on.. you need to.
 
pong21 said:
Eat the most amount of food that you could possible eat, and then eat more. Hit the weight room hard, no cardio. Gaining weight is all about eating.

At 125# you are looking to just gain any weight that you can, because that is skinny as hell. So you are going to put fat on.. you need to.


hahah I'm only 5'7
 
Could you post up your age, weight, height and BFP (body fat percentage) if you know it.
Also, post up the nutritional panel of the MaxMuscle Big Max 50.
I am still at work, so I will try and get back to you later tonight.

cheers

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KP--Fitness basics

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Age - 15
Weight - 125 lbs.
Height - 5'7.5"
BFP - Sorry, I dont know.


Nutritional Panel (If This is What you Mean By It)
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Amount Per Serving

Calories - 596
Calories From Fat - 36
************************
Total Fat --------------- 4g ------ 6%
Saturated Fat -------- 1gm ---- 5%
Cholesterol ------------- 50mg --- 16%
Sodium ----------------- 200mg -- 9%
Potassium --------------- 475mg -- 16%
Total Carbohydrate ------ 90g ----- 25%
Dietary Fiber ----------- 6g ------ 30%
Sugars -----------------26g
Protein ----------------- 50g ------ 100%

Tell Me If You Need Anymore Info, I'm Too Lazy To Write All The Vitamins And Stuff

PS ---- This Is Based on a 4-Scoop Serving Size, And Having It 2-3 Times A Day, But The MaxMuscle Guy Said I Should Only Use 2 Scoops, And Have It 2 Times A Day
 
Age: 15
Weight: 125 lbs.
Height: 5'-7.5"
BFP: you should have this assessed before starting a training program

The weight range for your height is 127-160 lbs., depending on your frame.
Your BMR is 1622.25

Make sure that you have a good understanding of the macro values (ie: protein, carbs, fat) of what your eat on a daily basis so that you can make the necessary adjustments to your nutritional intake. Double-check how many calories you require on a daily basis by using your BMR in the following equations:
  • sedentary (little or no exercise) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.2
  • lightly active (light exercise/sports 1-3 days/week) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.375
  • moderately active (moderate exercise/sports 3-5 days/week) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.55
  • very active (hard exercise/sports 6-7 days a week) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.725
  • extra active (very hard exercise/sports & physical job or 2x training) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.9
The above values will give you your daily caloric requirements to maintain your current weight at the specified level of activity. To increase your bodyweight, add an additional 500 calories per day (3500 total additional calories per week). This will result in an increase in bodyweight of one pound (minimum) per week. Depending on how your metabolism responds to the additional calories, the increase in bodyweight may be significantly more but aim for a 1-2 pound increase per week. If you push yourself beyond this then your BFP (body fat percentage) may get out of control, so pace yourself. If you find that your progress slows or stops, then do one of the following:
  • increase your caloric intake and maintain your level of physical activity
  • maintain your caloric intake but decrease your level of physical activity
  • increase your caloric intake and decrease your level of physical activity

Try to get the bulk of your calories through real foods and not supplements. Set up an eating schedule for yourself so that you will be consuming 6 meals throughout the day. These meals should be based around high protein and low to moderate, glycemic rated, complex carbs. Extra lean meats, chicken, turkey, whole wheat pastas, whole grains, oats, high fibre fruits and vegetables, nuts, ANPB (all natural peanut butter), beans, etc. Fats are also important to your diet but minimise your saturated fat intake and avoid hydrogenated and trans fats completely.Your schedule could look something similar to the following (the portion amounts are left out so that you will have to tailor it to fit your caloric requirements). This schedule is for short term use only:

Meal One:
  • 2 whole eggs + 4 egg whites
  • extra lean beef or chicken
  • oatmeal
  • 1 tbsp flax oil
Meal Two:
  • protein drink
  • banana
Meal Three:
  • chicken
  • sweet potato or cooked brown rice
  • vegetables
Meal Four:
  • protein drink
  • banana
Meal Five:
  • sirloin steak or extra lean meat
  • vegetables
  • potato
  • 1 tbsp flax oil
Meal Six: (non-training days)
  • chicken breast
  • vegetables
  • or protein drink
Meal Six: (training days - hard gainer)
  • cooked brown rice
  • sweet potato
  • banana
  • vegetables
  • 1 tbsp ANPB
Meal Six: (training days - normal)
  • cooked brown rice or sweet potato or oats
  • protein drink
  • 1 tbsp ANPB

Monitor your progress by periodically assessing your BFP and not by stepping on the scales. If your BFP starts getting too high, then make the necessary adjustments by either decreasing your caloric intake and/or increasing the level of your physical activity. Make sure you keep yourself properly hydrated throughout the day.

If you need an example split for your training routine then check out the training section on my site or over in the training section on EF. If you are new to weight training then I would suggest that you also look at the novice section for correct form on various exercises.

Training Section
Novice Section

As for the MaxMuscle ... this is a calorie dense meal so you will want to make sure that it remains a 'supplement' to your other meals and does not replace them. From the info you have provided, I would say that it is a protein concentrate or at best a proten blend of isolate and concentrate sources. As such, you may experience some bloating and gastrointestinal upset at the recommended dosage so the advice you were given was correct. If you are going to use this type of supplement, then start off slowly and gradually work your way up to the desired dosage level. When using weight gainers, the sugar content is always a concern as it can have an impact on your overall nutrition as well as your training so just watch your intake from all sources.

Since you are young, I would advise that you gradually ease yourself into both the nutitional and training portions of any program. Your goal of gaining 30 lbs. in 17 weeks is feasible but you will want to monitor your nutrional intake closely to ensure that the bulk of this thirty pounds is not as a result of a high BFP.

Good luck.

_______________

KP--Fitness Basics

.
 
Holy crap do you charge for something like that? Help me out, I'm 6'5 255 and my diet looks like this: See-food, if I'm not sleeping I'm eating.

JK about helping me, really I'm just impressed with the help you gave that guy.
 
KIAN said:
Age: 15
Weight: 125 lbs.
Height: 5'-7.5"
BFP: you should have this assessed before starting a training program

The weight range for your height is 127-160 lbs., depending on your frame.
Your BMR is 1622.25

Make sure that you have a good understanding of the macro values (ie: protein, carbs, fat) of what your eat on a daily basis so that you can make the necessary adjustments to your nutritional intake. Double-check how many calories you require on a daily basis by using your BMR in the following equations:
  • sedentary (little or no exercise) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.2
  • lightly active (light exercise/sports 1-3 days/week) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.375
  • moderately active (moderate exercise/sports 3-5 days/week) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.55
  • very active (hard exercise/sports 6-7 days a week) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.725
  • extra active (very hard exercise/sports & physical job or 2x training) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.9
The above values will give you your daily caloric requirements to maintain your current weight at the specified level of activity. To increase your bodyweight, add an additional 500 calories per day (3500 total additional calories per week). This will result in an increase in bodyweight of one pound (minimum) per week. Depending on how your metabolism responds to the additional calories, the increase in bodyweight may be significantly more but aim for a 1-2 pound increase per week. If you push yourself beyond this then your BFP (body fat percentage) may get out of control, so pace yourself. If you find that your progress slows or stops, then do one of the following:
  • increase your caloric intake and maintain your level of physical activity
  • maintain your caloric intake but decrease your level of physical activity
  • increase your caloric intake and decrease your level of physical activity

Try to get the bulk of your calories through real foods and not supplements. Set up an eating schedule for yourself so that you will be consuming 6 meals throughout the day. These meals should be based around high protein and low to moderate, glycemic rated, complex carbs. Extra lean meats, chicken, turkey, whole wheat pastas, whole grains, oats, high fibre fruits and vegetables, nuts, ANPB (all natural peanut butter), beans, etc. Fats are also important to your diet but minimise your saturated fat intake and avoid hydrogenated and trans fats completely.Your schedule could look something similar to the following (the portion amounts are left out so that you will have to tailor it to fit your caloric requirements). This schedule is for short term use only:

Meal One:
  • 2 whole eggs + 4 egg whites
  • extra lean beef or chicken
  • oatmeal
  • 1 tbsp flax oil
Meal Two:
  • protein drink
  • banana
Meal Three:
  • chicken
  • sweet potato or cooked brown rice
  • vegetables
Meal Four:
  • protein drink
  • banana
Meal Five:
  • sirloin steak or extra lean meat
  • vegetables
  • potato
  • 1 tbsp flax oil
Meal Six: (non-training days)
  • chicken breast
  • vegetables
  • or protein drink
Meal Six: (training days - hard gainer)
  • cooked brown rice
  • sweet potato
  • banana
  • vegetables
  • 1 tbsp ANPB
Meal Six: (training days - normal)
  • cooked brown rice or sweet potato or oats
  • protein drink
  • 1 tbsp ANPB

Monitor your progress by periodically assessing your BFP and not by stepping on the scales. If your BFP starts getting too high, then make the necessary adjustments by either decreasing your caloric intake and/or increasing the level of your physical activity. Make sure you keep yourself properly hydrated throughout the day.

If you need an example split for your training routine then check out the training section on my site or over in the training section on EF. If you are new to weight training then I would suggest that you also look at the novice section for correct form on various exercises.

Training Section
Novice Section

As for the MaxMuscle ... this is a calorie dense meal so you will want to make sure that it remains a 'supplement' to your other meals and does not replace them. From the info you have provided, I would say that it is a protein concentrate or at best a proten blend of isolate and concentrate sources. As such, you may experience some bloating and gastrointestinal upset at the recommended dosage so the advice you were given was correct. If you are going to use this type of supplement, then start off slowly and gradually work your way up to the desired dosage level. When using weight gainers, the sugar content is always a concern as it can have an impact on your overall nutrition as well as your training so just watch your intake from all sources.

Since you are young, I would advise that you gradually ease yourself into both the nutitional and training portions of any program. Your goal of gaining 30 lbs. in 17 weeks is feasible but you will want to monitor your nutrional intake closely to ensure that the bulk of this thirty pounds is not as a result of a high BFP.

Good luck.

_______________

KP--Fitness Basics

.


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Wow Kian, Your Amazing!

1 Issue - I have kind of a crazy schedule because of school and basketball. I go to school from 8 to 2, and then I come home until 4 because I have to go back to school and have basketballl practice until 7. My six meals are Breakfast, Our Snack Break, Lunch, Before Practice, After Practice/Dinner, and Right Before I sleep. Breakfast is obviouslly the first meal that you listed for me. The second meal that you gave me,(banana and protein shake), are kind of impossible to get because I am at school and I only have 15 minutes before class begins again, and I can't really make a protein shake at school. Third meal is Lunch, which is again at school, and this is usually when my buddies and I go get a pizza and a drink. Forth meal, After School, is very flexible because I have 2 hours before I start school again. Fifth Meal, Dinner, which is after practice is usually what my mom makes, but I can make whatever else is necessary so that's also pretty flexible. And finally right before I sleep is also flexible because I can have whatever I want. Probably the only two meals in which I can make a protein shake is after school and before I sleep because in the mornings I have very little time


Foods That Are Available To Me While At School

Burritos
Taco
Pop Tarts (HAHAH,but hey, easy 430 calories)
Pizza
Milk
Chips
Philly Cheese Steak Sandwich
Bagel And Cream Cheese

---I know its a very unhealthy list, but thats all I can get my hands on.--

PS -- Do you Have AOL Instant Messager? Or anyone else that's an "expert" on my kind of problem?
 
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Yah, schedules suck.
Look on the bright side ... At least you don't have my schedule.

I think your biggest issue is not a problem of scheduling but is one of committment. You posted back on 30 October with a question on using weight gainers to add weight so that you could make your school basketball team.

30 October 2005
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=436151

And now it is 28 December and you are saying that you only have 17 weeks left to achieve your goal. So what happened? If you really want to change your physique and achieve your goal then you are going to have to commit yourself to this and take it seriously. There are alot of guys on here who would love to be in your position of being young and starting off with a clean slate at improving their physique. Seize the opportunity which you have now and achieve your goal instead of just thinking about it.

The eating schedule I posted was just an example which obviously will need to be tailored to suit the needs of whomever decides to use it. The point of it was to show you that it is not that hard to consume the food which your body requires. There are always going to conflicts with your daily activities and so you will just have to resort to planning ahead. Prepare your meals in advance (ie: cooked brown rice, chicken, whole wheat pastas) and place them in individual sealed containers. Purchase a couple of Nalgene Sports Bottles (one narrow mouth, one wide mouth). Use the narrow mouth one for your water and your wide mouth one for mixing your protein/weight gainer powders. Place individual servings of your powders in zip-lock bags. Throw your meals, sports bottles, and powders in your backpack and carry them with you wherever you go. When you have time, reheat your meals in the school microwave. When time is limited, mix up some supplement with your powder and sport bottles.

So:
  • You know what you BMR is.
  • You know how many calories your body requires to maintain your current weight.
  • You know how many calories you need to consume to increase your bodyweight.
  • You know abit more about weight gain powders.
  • You have access to training routines through my site.
  • You have access to information on correct form for a variety of exercises through my site.
  • You have an example eating schedule for adding bodyweight.
  • You also have access to all kinds of other information available through Elite Fitness.
... The question now is 'What are you going to do with it all?'

There is nothing wrong with asking questions but you have to meet people halfway, atleast, and follow though on the advice they are offering you. Otherwise your threads are just going to get longer and longer and your 17 week timeframe is just going to get shorter and shorter.

Please take advantage of the opportunity you have.

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KP--Fitness Basics

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