Kerry protests Vietnam...so?

[casualbb]

Who fucking cares?

Is the majority of America still trying to pretend that the Vietnam War was a good thing?

I think it's great that the repubs are trying to get him on this one because it shows that this monumental nonissue is all they've got on him.

That is, unless they're saving the heavy crap for later.

 

[Misys]

always trying to dig up dirt

 

[ChefWide]

I would be more likely to vote for Kerry if he had protested the war in Iraq.

 

[WODIN]

I would be more likely to vote for Kerry if he had protested the war in Iraq.

AMEN!!!

 

[Misys]

I would be more likely to vote for Kerry if he had protested the war in Iraq.

give him time

 

[ChefWide]

give him time

The time was last year. Now is a little late for the 550 americans that didn't need to die and the 8500+ Iraqi civilians we killed in our 'smart bomb' war.

As a choice among fools, Kerry is the least repugnant of the three.

 

[Hangfire]

I would be more likely to vote for Kerry if he had protested the war in Iraq.

He has. He cast a Senate vote to withhold funding for the military over there. He cost American lives by that action, same as he cost American lives protesting Vietnam.

 

[ChefWide]

Lets see... illegal war, justified by liars with lies, should I acquiesce and shovel money into it or stand up like a man and a good American and say 'HELL NO!'

After the fact is my complaint.

I would gladly earmark 10 billion dollars to pull out NOW. TODAY. But we would be responsible for even more innocent Iraqi murders by doing that, than by the murderous illegal actions the current U.S. Regime has already perpetrated on those people. There is no good way to get out of this horror show and if you think americans are coming home in droves in the end of June then I have some land in the Everglades you might want to buy cheap.

Regime change should start at HOME.

 

[Atomic Punk]

He has. He cast a Senate vote to withhold funding for the military over there. He cost American lives by that action, same as he cost American lives protesting Vietnam.

Spewing shit you hear on TV much bro? That is crap. The guy voted against the 87 billion, yes, but the fucking bill PASSED. So how the fuck did he cost lives?? And I would LOVE to hear your "theory" as to how John Kerry protesting the War in Vietnam contributed one single death to the 60k that suqsequently died there, when his protesting was meant to end the fighting that was killing the men in the first place????? Do you want to answer now, or do you want to call into Pat Buchanan first to see what he thinks, and then regurgitate that shit?

 

[ChefWide]

Spewing shit you hear on TV much bro? That is crap. The guy voted against the 87 billion, yes, but the fucking bill PASSED. So how the fuck did he cost lives?? And I would LOVE to hear your "theory" as to how John Kerry protesting the War in Vietnam contributed one single death to the 60k that suqsequently died there, when his protesting was meant to end the fighting that was killing the men in the first place????? Do you want to answer now, or do you want to call into Pat Buchanan first to see what he thinks, and then regurgitate that shit?

Smacked.
K in a big way once I spread it around.

 

[chesty]

He voted against it and whether or not it passed the no vote shows his non support for the troops.

He is as pathetic as that Marine that volounteered for 3 tours in Vietnam, and got paralyzed on his last tour, came home and bitched about how wrong the war was. Movie (born on the fourth of July)

He has been investigated by the FBI (they found nothing of substance) because they felt he and his group the VVAW were a threat and one occasion they even discussed killig the pres.

How is Kerry's past relevant? The same as Bushes.

Would you prefer to ignore the rest of the world until they invaded your country?

Isolationism got is both WWI and WWII. Each more bloody than the last! And when the UN took over starting with Korean war the US started losing wars. We went alone except for a few trusted allies and we kicked ass. Had we waited for the UN that so called number of 550 would have been in the thousands and growing more quickly than it has.

 

[ChefWide]

excuse me? where did we KICK ASS? If you are talking about Iraq, to coin an AtlantaBob phrase, I will have to stop laughing before I can type a reply.

 

[Atomic Punk]

He voted against it and whether or not it passed the no vote shows his non support for the troops.

He is as pathetic as that Marine that volounteered for 3 tours in Vietnam, and got paralyzed on his last tour, came home and bitched about how wrong the war was. Movie (born on the fourth of July)

He has been investigated by the FBI (they found nothing of substance) because they felt he and his group the VVAW were a threat and one occasion they even discussed killig the pres.

How is Kerry's past relevant? The same as Bushes.

Would you prefer to ignore the rest of the world until they invaded your country?

Isolationism got is both WWI and WWII. Each more bloody than the last! And when the UN took over starting with Korean war the US started losing wars. We went alone except for a few trusted allies and we kicked ass. Had we waited for the UN that so called number of 550 would have been in the thousands and growing more quickly than it has.

So Iraq was going to invade the USA, is that what you're saying? Dear lord. The friggin FBI inverstigated Martin Luther King too, and at one point, told him that unless he committed suicide, that they would reveal his supposed "infedelities" to the world. You act like the FBI investigating him makes Kerry to be the one "in the wrong" my friend, when it has been proven in cases such as with MLK, that this certainly was NOT the case. The Govenment were the ones in the wrong, just as they were for keeping us in that War. Just as they were for going into Iraq. Just as YOU ARE for acting like Iraq would EVER UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, have invaded the USA. Give me a BREAK!

 

[Longhorn85]

We did kick ass during combat in Iraq. More so that anyone anticipated. Enough to make Libya come clean. That cannot be disputed and to do so shows a refusal to accept reality. The Bush machine is not attacking Kerry on Vietnam, they are simply exposing his record from two decades in the Senate as King Liberal and King Flip Flop. That will be more than enough to defeat him.

 

[Atomic Punk]

We did kick ass during combat in Iraq. More so that anyone anticipated. Enough to make Libya come clean. That cannot be disputed and to do so shows a refusal to accept reality. The Bush machine is not attacking Kerry on Vietnam, they are simply exposing his record from two decades in the Senate as King Liberal and King Flip Flop. That will be more than enough to defeat him.

I whole-heartedly disagree bro. The American people do NOT LIKE(maybe you do-I dont know you) being decieved into a War(or anything for that matter), wether the outcome turned out to be just or not. This weapons of mass destruction thing will be Bush Jr's "No New Taxes". Trust me. It's all over. And since when is "Liberal" such a dirty word?

 

[ChefWide]

We did kick civillans' ass during combat in Iraq. More so that anyone anticipated. More than 8000 dead and counting. Enough to make Libya come clean. That cannot be disputed and to do so shows a refusal to accept reality. The Bush machine is not attacking Kerry on Vietnam, they are just trying as they may to call attention away from their glaring lies and fuckups, that will be more than enough to embarrass themselves even more before Kerry defeats them.

 

[chesty]

I did not say they were going to invade the US. However, by being isolationist sooner or later you will have to deal with someone who has an estabilished foothold somewhere that can be a strategic threat.

Europe ignored Hitler for almost a decade before they realized almost too late in the game what he was up to.

Kick ass? Ummmm, let's see. Iraq 0, US 2. Country defeated in a couple of weeks? The answer is: Iraq.

Kerry, is whinny, snot nosed, kid that didn't earn his wealth, but married into it. Fought a very unpopular war and used that to get himself into office, by bashing it and those who fought there.

What document do you have that proves the FBI instructed King to commit suicide?

He was known to have ties to the communist party though and he was sighted sharing a reefer with Santa Clause too.

I also do not think that because the FBI investigating him makes him wrong, What I do believe is that they must have had a legitimit concern about the group he was in as well as in Kerry himself. In the end they found nothing that prosecutable so they abandoned their efforts.

What would be interesting is to hear from the men that he lead into combat about the kind of leader he was.

 

[Atomic Punk]

I did not say they were going to invade the US. However, by being isolationist sooner or later you will have to deal with someone who has an estabilished foothold somewhere that can be a strategic threat.

Europe ignored Hitler for almost a decade before they realized almost too late in the game what he was up to.

Kick ass? Ummmm, let's see. Iraq 0, US 2. Country defeated in a couple of weeks? The answer is: Iraq.

Kerry, is whinny, snot nosed, kid that didn't earn his wealth, but married into it. Fought a very unpopular war and used that to get himself into office, by bashing it and those who fought there.

What document do you have that proves the FBI instructed King to commit suicide?

He was known to have ties to the communist party though and he was sighted sharing a reefer with Santa Clause too.

I also do not think that because the FBI investigating him makes him wrong, What I do believe is that they must have had a legitimit concern about the group he was in as well as in Kerry himself. In the end they found nothing that prosecutable so they abandoned their efforts.

What would be interesting is to hear from the men that he lead into combat about the kind of leader he was.

I have the documents right here brother. Yeah, as soon as J. Edgar Hoover died, he made sure that he UPS'ed the things right to my door. I saw it on a special, where the King family was alleging these things. It is a FACT that they were surveying him though, but again, I don't have the FBI files right here in front of me, so you dont have to accept that as fact either if you so chose.

I did like the part where you said that Kerry "fought an unpopular war" though. Very true. While Bush was in the National Guard. The rich American boys version of moving to Canada.

 

[the nature boy]

We did kick ass during combat in Iraq. More so that anyone anticipated. Enough to make Libya come clean. That cannot be disputed and to do so shows a refusal to accept reality. The Bush machine is not attacking Kerry on Vietnam, they are simply exposing his record from two decades in the Senate as King Liberal and King Flip Flop. That will be more than enough to defeat him.

check your sources, the libyians were talking with the british well before the war in iraq happened.

 

[the nature boy]

Kerry, is whinny, snot nosed, kid that didn't earn his wealth, but married into it. Fought a very unpopular war and used that to get himself into office, by bashing it and those who fought there.

so bush being born into a wealthy family is any different?

 

[ChefWide]

However, by being isolationist sooner or later you will have to deal with someone who has an estabilished foothold somewhere that can be a strategic threat.

What?!? Are you suggesting that our Invasion of Iraq made us more a part of the world comunity? How would you describe Bush's foreign policy if you don't use the word Isolationist?

 

[Atomic Punk]

What?!? Are you suggesting that our Invasion of Iraq made us more a part of the world comunity? How would you describe Bush's foreign policy if you don't use the word Isolationist?

Separatist?

 

[Longhorn85]

And since when is "Liberal" such a dirty word?

Liberal is only a dirty word if liberals allow it to be so. Kerry should stand up and say, "I'm proud to be a Liberal". See what a proud liberal, Walter Cronkite, has to say about this:



http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1413,36~29003~2026871,00.html

 

[Longhorn85]

An executive summary:

"When the National Journal said your Senate record makes you one of the most liberal members of the Senate, you called that "a laughable characterization" and "the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen in my life." Wow! Liberals, who make up a substantial portion of the Democratic Party and a significant portion of the independent vote, are entitled to ask, "What gives?"

It isn't just the National Journal that has branded you as a liberal. So has the liberal lobbying group Americans for Democratic Action. Senator, check your own website. It says you are for rolling back tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans, for tax credits to both save and create jobs, for real investment in our schools. You've voted, in the words of your own campaign, for "every major piece of civil rights legislation to come before Congress since 1985, as well as the Equal Rights Amendment." You count yourself (and are considered by others) a leader on environmental protection issues.

You are committed to saving Medicare and Social Security, and you are an internationalist in foreign policy.


What are you ashamed of? "

 

[ChefWide]

Separatist?

My bad, Bush doesn't want a working foreign policy...

 

[strongsmartsexy]

Spewing shit you hear on TV much bro? That is crap. The guy voted against the 87 billion, yes, but the fucking bill PASSED. So how the fuck did he cost lives?? And I would LOVE to hear your "theory" as to how John Kerry protesting the War in Vietnam contributed one single death to the 60k that suqsequently died there, when his protesting was meant to end the fighting that was killing the men in the first place????? Do you want to answer now, or do you want to call into Pat Buchanan first to see what he thinks, and then regurgitate that shit?

K

 

[casualbb]

The Bush machine is not attacking Kerry on Vietnam, they are simply exposing his record from two decades in the Senate as King Liberal and King Flip Flop. That will be more than enough to defeat him.

Again you assume the average American gives a crap about Vietnam.

ARE WE STILL TRYING TO PRETEND VIETNAM WAS A WORTHWHILE WAR?!?

 

[Longhorn85]

Again you assume the average American gives a crap about Vietnam.

ARE WE STILL TRYING TO PRETEND VIETNAM WAS A WORTHWHILE WAR?!?

If you're not going to bother to read what I wrote, don't comment on what you think I wrote.

 

[redshirt27se]

Kerry fought in the Vietnam war only to come home and openly criticize the war and his fellow soldiers. Thats bullshit in my opinion. It's boarderline cowardice, if you hate the war that is fine, but for someone who is referred to as a distinguished soldier he should have atleast supported his fellow troops.

As for the Iraq war. Kerry voted for millitary action, yet he has openly criticized the war and voted against the bill that contained $300 million to buy body armor for all troops in Iraq, and also contained additional combat pay and health benefits for reservists called to active duty.

The guy constantly flip-flops.

He says "foreign leaders support him" and then refuses to give names. Then all of a sudden a quasi terrorist comes out and offers his support to Kerry.

 

[casualbb]

If you're not going to bother to read what I wrote, don't comment on what you think I wrote.

Oops, my bad. Most of the time your stuff is predictable.

Yes, him not owning up to being a liberal does seem a tad odd.

 

[ChefWide]

It's boarderline cowardice, if you hate the war that is fine, but for someone who is referred to as a distinguished soldier he should have atleast supported his fellow troops.

Neo-cons always think that fighting a big overbloated corporation is a direct attack on the guys in the mailroom. WRONG. He spoke out against the WAR, which in many sad ways, is MUCH BIGGER than individuals. Hell yes he should speak out against the war. Its a lie, it's wrong and we had and have no moral or legal right to be there.

He says "foreign leaders support him" and then refuses to give names.

Of course he refuses to give names, shit, are you so naive as to think that he would give up those names and before he even enters the whitehouse, which he will, alienate his backers like his predesesor? Is it a SURPRISE to you that the leaders of the world that don't have their lips surgically attached to dubya's ass DISLIKE HIM? Are you kidding me?

Newsflash: the world considers George W. Bush and his lackeys to be the most dangerous regime on the planet and they are right on the money.

 

[chesty]

They consider his administration to be the most dangerous? How so? Why? Because we no longer take a back seat to every one else's wishes? At least we are doing something about the terrorism in the world. What did Klinton do? Shot a couple of cruise missiles, big deal.

What has Germany done?, What has France done? What has Saudi Arabia done? Egypt, Syria, Africa, Canada, Mecixo, Turkey, Greece, etc. Only a handful of country's came to our support.

It may not be a popular war, but then, no war is popular. There were many that thought WWII was wrong or WWI was wrong. Where would we be today if we had not participated?

How did Hitler manage to take over 2.3 of Europe without ever firing a shot? Because people around the world believed him when he said he was done and posed no threat to them. Then he openly invaded Poland and Poland had the balls to fight back. But until that time no one cared enough. And for 6 years Hitler grabbed country after conutry with no opposition from the world.

Suppose we left Hussein alone, believed every word out of his mouth? Things might be different today. We could have been witness to his invading other country's and eventually creating WWIII or nothing would have happened.

But, we will never know because Bush is proactive, not an appeaser. So he prescribed a preventive medicine and so far it has worked.

Kerry needs to tell us which foreing leaders support him period. The rest of the world has no say so in our election of president and any country that thinks othewise is our enemy.

Kerry is a desparate individual who in the end will go the way of Gary Hart.

 

[ChefWide]

They consider his administration to be the most dangerous? How so? Why? Because we no longer take a back seat to every one else's wishes? At least we are doing something about the terrorism in the world. What did Klinton do? Shot a couple of cruise missiles, big deal.

What has Germany done?, What has France done? What has Saudi Arabia done? Egypt, Syria, Africa, Canada, Mecixo, Turkey, Greece, etc. Only a handful of country's came to our support.

It may not be a popular war, but then, no war is popular. There were many that thought WWII was wrong or WWI was wrong. Where would we be today if we had not participated?

How did Hitler manage to take over 2.3 of Europe without ever firing a shot? Because people around the world believed him when he said he was done and posed no threat to them. Then he openly invaded Poland and Poland had the balls to fight back. But until that time no one cared enough. And for 6 years Hitler grabbed country after conutry with no opposition from the world.

Suppose we left Hussein alone, believed every word out of his mouth? Things might be different today. We could have been witness to his invading other country's and eventually creating WWIII or nothing would have happened.

But, we will never know because Bush is proactive, not an appeaser. So he prescribed a preventive medicine and so far it has worked.

Kerry needs to tell us which foreing leaders support him period. The rest of the world has no say so in our election of president and any country that thinks othewise is our enemy.

Kerry is a desparate individual who in the end will go the way of Gary Hart.

Being wrong on so many levels must be a sport for you.

1. Our involvelment in Iraq has absolutely NOTHING to do with terrorism. Even your most intelligent conservative comrades on this board are shaking their heads in amazement that you would lower yourself to repeat that horseshit.

2. Don't try and fall back on the 'someone is attacking our current asshole, try and compare him the last asshole' card. It won't work. It's weak and spineless to avoid the issue that way and, frankly, its below you.

3. WWII was a VERY popular war, you know not of what you speak. There were not 'many' who disaproved of that war, and even fewer that protested it. Read your history, ask your parents (or grandparents).

4. Of course only a handful of countries came to support a criminal and ultimately genocidal policy decision by an illegal government that is willing to flush not only the good will of the world but the sons and daughters of its own supporters down the toilet for an agenda it doesnt have the spine or the moral integrity to stand up and state. Ptui on your coalition of the asskissers.

5. Every expert, EVERY SINGLE ONE, states emphaticly that had we left him alone we would regret it. BUT WHO SUGGESTED WE LEAVE HIM ALONE?? Work as the leader of a fucking team or you will be the only asshole left on the field, and should we suffer the unthinkable, a nuke popped in DC or NYC or wherever, by some organized terrorist group, you had damned well better be sure the world is on your side.

5. Invading another country!?!? He barely had the infrastructure to make cous'cous let alone stage an invasion! read your reports on the material status of both the standing army in Iraq before the war as well as the abilities of the industrial machine in Iraq. Invade another country?!? What planet did that coment come from?

6. Kerry needs to tell you what? The history of his families support for the country that bankrolled 9/11? Why the family of that terrorist leader was alowed to fly out of the US on that day when every other AMERICAN was forced to sit on the ground? Why he did nothing with the evidence that there were iminent threats of comercial jets being used as bombs because he had a months vacation in texas coming up and because the threat sheet didnt say IRAQ all over it? You want to act like you love this country? Ask the questions that families of 9/11 want the answers too, instead of refusing/stalling/ and then refusing to answer under oath?!?!? WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT??

7. What exactly would the Iraqi led WWIII use for weapons? Falafel?

You want to support Bush? Support him with something you can back up, and you will win.

 

[chesty]

Dude, you need to go read your history. I never said that WWII or WWI was unpopular, I stated that many thought it was wrong. Yes, we are in part in Iraq for terrorism. Don't tell me about why we are there.

I happen to be working on issues dealing with terrorism for the military coming from that country.



What I stated was that we intervened in this before we let it become something much worse and whether or not that would have happened we will never know.

Yes, Kerry needs to devulge which leaders are supporting him end of story.

I stand by my statements and you can rant all you want.

Provide proof for your statements that Bush allowed the leaders of the attack to leave the country.

I lost many relatives in both world wars korea and vietnam. I don't need to ask them.

There were many protests against the wars. And history recorded them.

The only difference between then and now is that then this country had men in it. Today all we have are whiney, sniveling, pussy, balless, breast feeding cowards that are unwilling to take a stand. Those same snot nosed metrosexuals are going to be the same ones screaming when this country finds itself defeated about where was the military, why didn't they stop this, etc. The answer, you wouldn't let us. Enjoy.

Genocide? How? Wasn't Hussein and family partaking of that every day? Hmmm, I belelive so. Weak infrastructure? Maybe, but then too bad for him. And now the Iraqis are free and the few who are bombing etc are just pissed off that they no longer have any power or were not given ultimate power.

Say what you like, but you will not change my mind. I prefer to be at the top of the food chain instead of at the bottom.

 

[ChefWide]

Dude, you need to go read your history. I never said that WWII or WWI was unpopular, I stated that many thought it was wrong. Yes, we are in part in Iraq for terrorism. Don't tell me about why we are there.

I happen to be working on issues dealing with terrorism for the military coming from that country.

Your suggesting that we went into Iraq to fight terrorism? Can you show me one credible report from before the start of the war that one international terrorist act was purpetrated by an Iraqi terrorsist trained by the regime of Sadam Housein?

The President, The Secretary of State, The Defence Department, National Security Advisor and Vice President all stated emphaticly that our purpose for going into this debacle was to prevent sadam from using weapons of mass destruction that were a clear and 'immediate threat'. There is still no conclusive data that Sadam had any connection with any acts of terror in the West or elsewhere.

"OH, cant show you those, top secret and all that." Horse hockey.

What I stated was that we intervened in this before we let it become something much worse and whether or not that would have happened we will never know.

Precisely. Thanks for backing me up.

Yes, Kerry needs to devulge which leaders are supporting him end of story.

Silly, unrealistic view of politics. You need to get out more often.

I stand by my statements and you can rant all you want.

Provide proof for your statements that Bush allowed the leaders of the attack to leave the country.

What?!?! I never said anything of the kind. Read again.

I lost many relatives in both world wars korea and vietnam. I don't need to ask them.

There were many protests against the wars. And history recorded them.

The only difference between then and now is that then this country had men in it. Today all we have are whiney, sniveling, pussy, balless, breast feeding cowards that are unwilling to take a stand.

I have more than enough moxie, balls and FORSIGHT to make a stand, Attilla. I stand against the war and for America. Spend the fucking money on Americans. Bolster the U.S. economy with measures that make sence, instead of flushing good money only in the favored direction. We have more money? Bullshit. What's our 'more' money actually worth? Less.

Those same snot nosed metrosexuals are going to be the same ones screaming when this country finds itself defeated about where was the military, why didn't they stop this, etc. The answer, you wouldn't let us. Enjoy.

I would like to enjoy, but unfortuneatley you and your jackbooted administration are so damn busy AVOIDING the issues at home (jobs? the iminent social security crisis? long term damage caused by the debt? any of these ringing a bell?) and letting the American economy flounder in the shitcan that its hard to keep a keen eye on our constitutional rights as they go swirly swirly down the toilet.

Instead of defending 'us' against some imaginary enemy that maybe, kinda, oneday, might even, possibly in the furture have plans to become a threat, try defending our rights and preventing the fucking terrorists from invading our shores.

Try spending our damn money that we didn't give you permisssion to borrow on making OUR COUNTRY SAFE RIGHT HERE AND NOW and OUR DEMOCRACY FLOURISH and OUR INFRASTRUCTURE SOUND rather that pissing it into the sand of the godforsaken middle east quagmire while supporting the despots we claim to stand against. Spend the damn money at home.

Genocide? How? Wasn't Hussein and family partaking of that every day? Hmmm, I belelive so. Weak infrastructure? Maybe, but then too bad for him. And now the Iraqis are free and the few who are bombing etc are just pissed off that they no longer have any power or were not given ultimate power.

You and your ilk have created the most fertile and fervent recruiting poster and camp for terror the world has EVER seen. Your blind backing of the criminal Israeli government and fiasco's in afghanistan are popping terrorists out of the ground like daisies. Nice job. Oh, and continue supporting the fucking Saudis, please. They are our friends. <pardon me while I vomit>

Say what you like, but you will not change my mind. I prefer to be at the top of the food chain instead of at the bottom.

Whatever, if being comfortably numb to the fall you are setting this country up for by blindly following lies and failing to confront the real issues of national security and our national economic woes makes you feel at the top of the food chain, then so be it. Enjoy it until next november.

 

[big_bad_buff]

Who fucking cares?
unless they're saving the heavy crap for later.

he looks like he could be jay leno's brother

 

[ChefWide]

he looks like he could be jay leno's brother

Speaking of which, have see that image of Fonz's chin?

 

[strongsmartsexy]

They consider his administration to be the most dangerous? How so? Why? Because we no longer take a back seat to every one else's wishes? At least we are doing something about the terrorism in the world. What did Klinton do? Shot a couple of cruise missiles, big deal.

Taking war into Iraq has nothing to do with Terrorism. We were lied to about the causes to go into Iraq. Now we're stuck with the hefty price tag of sticking with something we shouldn't have been in with from the start.

What has Germany done?, What has France done? What has Saudi Arabia done? Egypt, Syria, Africa, Canada, Mecixo, Turkey, Greece, etc. Only a handful of country's came to our support.

And those handfuls are backing out daily. When you have all the others not supporting us and the handful that did support us are now backing out, doesn't that give you any kind of a HINT that something might be amiss?

It may not be a popular war, but then, no war is popular. There were many that thought WWII was wrong or WWI was wrong. Where would we be today if we had not participated?

How did Hitler manage to take over 2.3 of Europe without ever firing a shot? Because people around the world believed him when he said he was done and posed no threat to them. Then he openly invaded Poland and Poland had the balls to fight back. But until that time no one cared enough. And for 6 years Hitler grabbed country after conutry with no opposition from the world.

This irony in this paragraph to the current situation is almost chlling.

Suppose we left Hussein alone, believed every word out of his mouth? Things might be different today. We could have been witness to his invading other country's and eventually creating WWIII or nothing would have happened.

Hypothetical and argumentative. How many other countries would you propose invading and declaring war on over this?

But, we will never know because Bush is proactive, not an appeaser. So he prescribed a preventive medicine and so far it has worked.

See previous ironic paragraph about Hitler

Kerry needs to tell us which foreing leaders support him period. The rest of the world has no say so in our election of president and any country that thinks othewise is our enemy.

No, he doesn't.

Kerry is a desparate individual who in the end will go the way of Gary Hart.

The latest poles show Kerry and Bush are neck and neck in this race.

 

[big_bad_buff]

nope. does he need to be chin checked a few times?

Speaking of which, have see that image of Fonz's chin?

 

[AAP]

Chefwide & strongsexysmart = leaving 'em "smoldering" in the wake of absolute common sense.

 

[Longhorn85]

Oops, my bad. Most of the time your stuff is predictable.

Yes, him not owning up to being a liberal does seem a tad odd.

I try to be consistent.

The reason he avoids the liberal tag is because it will lead to a loss in November. That's what he is though.

 

[atlantabiolab]

And since when is "Liberal" such a dirty word?

Since it was hijacked and corrupted from the original meaning of Classical Liberalism (individualist, pro-free market, pro-freedom) to the current bastardization of "socialist".