Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below I was wondering what gear would have the best percentage of keeping gains. I'm thinking something that gives moderate gains, unlike d-bol and anadrol. Something I had in mind was winstrol and anavar and was also wondering about equipoise. How about test, are the gains keepable? The reason I ask is b/c I'm about to start a winstrol only cycle. I know a lot of people will recommend not to but I have done my research and feel that I have the best chance of keeping my gains and I also do not want to get huge. I don't want it to be noticeable, just want strength gains and to harden up a little. I am currently 5'9 175lb and about 9% bf and have been working out for about 3 1/2 yrs. My plan is to do 20mg in the morning and 20mg in the evening for 8 weeks. Any advice and suggestions will be appreciated!
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Anthony Starks
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Percentage of keeping gains is going to be highest with a steriod that does not cause much water retention. Winny, anavar, and primo are all good examples. If all you are looking for is strength gains and to harden up a little, any of them will work. Make sure you still do PCT though.
You need to do a lot more reading before you do what you're planning. But you probably won't. The gear you use has nothing to do with how well you'll keep your gains. Gains are the addition of LBM (muscle) to your body. Some gear will add water as well as LBM and that water will go away when you stop. That's not a loss of gains, it's a loss of water. How well you keep your gains will depend on what you do when you're DONE with the cycle not what you take during your cycle. One steroid doesn't put on a different type of LBM than another so how would it make sense that one will give you more keepable LBM than another? It won't. Read up, spend some time here and you'll get it figured out.
2BIG4URMOM
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The less androgenic of the gear like winny, primo, eq, anavar, the better chance you will keep your gains.
Most of the less androgenic gear also stay in your system longer than say something like dbol, which you will see quicker results.
Here is a site with a chart, it has some good info:
http://www.steroidtips.com/steroidrank.htm
Most of the less androgenic gear also stay in your system longer than say something like dbol, which you will see quicker results.
Here is a site with a chart, it has some good info:
http://www.steroidtips.com/steroidrank.htm
2BIG4URMOM
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Ulter said:
No offense taken bro, but I seriously heard that something like eq will stay in your system for almost a year, so it was something that I should think about if competing.
Maybe this is some wrong info, but I have heard it from quite a few bro's where I live.
2BIG4URMOM
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Ulter said:
Sorry bro, I know this is not very in debt, but here is just one source, maybe you could point out my mistake:
http://www.steroidtips.com/equipoise.htm
Boldenone gives you slower but much more high quality gains in muscle as opposed to the normal "quick" muscle gains that you would expect from a testosterone. This is not a steroid to take on its own and expect 20 lbs. in 6 weeks. It is just not going to happen. You can expect around 3 weeks before you start seeing results and they are not going to be staggering, but will be "more permanent" than any gains you would get from any of the multiple testosterones that are available. This steroid stays active in the system longer than most of the testosterones as well. This makes equipoise a poor choice if you run the possibility of being drug tested.
Anthony Starks
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Ulter said:
Ulter, this is all true. However, 99% of the time when people talk about the gains they get from a cycle, they are talking about the total weight gained during the cycle, water and all. So, steriods that cause this bloat are going to cause a larger loss of body weight once the cycle is over.
instant.muscle
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my friend did 500 mg a week of eq for 10 weeks, gained 20 pounds and didnt lose any.
2BIG4URMOM said:
OK I get it. The length of time a steroid stays active in your body is due to the "ester" it's wrapped in when it's injected into your body. Nandrolone is very androgenic and it's detecable for 18 months. If you put bordelone (eq) in an acetate (what they use for tren) it will only last a week.
The only exception to this is winny which has metabolites that will lodge in your fat and stay there for months and then out of nowhere just let go. This is why tested athletes have stopped using it. Ben Johnson got busted like that. According to New Yorker Magazine who interviewed his coach, Ben Johnson hadn't used winny in year but the metabolite stuck in him for 13 months.
NONE of this has anything to do with keeping gains for longer though bro. How you keep your gains, real gains not water, is all about what you do AFTER the cycle.
The biggest misconception is outlined by Anthony Starks. People use the scale to determine gains and that's why they think EQ has more "keepable" gains. It doesn't. If just that it doesn't aromatize so it doesn't bring water when it adds LBM. So your gains are what you put on because you don't have a loss in weight when water recedes.
