just test cypionate cycle

[johnjohnson107]

Well, thanks for the input guys. I only have 10cc's test cypionate. what do I do? I do not have any clomid or anti-estrogens. I am 235 pounds at 7-8%bf and have never used any steroids. Will I make gains on this?

 

[DOM]

You need more cyp no matter what the concentration of it is. I don't have anything against a test only cycle, but I'd do at least 500mg/wk. Also, do not do this without clomid or anti-e's. You should actually read through the boards and try to learn more before you start at all.

 

[MaxBiceps]

If the concentration is 200 mgs/ml, and you use 1 cc a week, then yes you will make some mild gains, but it would be wise to get your hands on another bottle of cyp and something else to stack it with.

 

[Zyglamail]

Test only cycles are fine, but DO NOT do a cycle unless you have clomid and an anti-e, if you do you are just looking for trouble.

 

[SixPac]

Bump

Get your hand on clomid or your gains will more than likely be lost.

6pac

 

[johnjohnson107]

just what I thought. bad news, I guess i have to search for more and get some anti estrogens and clomid. I have research to do . thanks for everything and I will keep reading and learning

 

[40butpumpin]

Don't sweat it, Clomid and Arimidex are pretty easy to get. AS far as the quanitity of Cyp. you have, you're definitely better off waiting until you have enough to make a real cycle of it as already stated.

 

[johnjohnson107]

I have the 200mg bottle. The guy I know has a prescription, we dont have a black market source yet , but we will locate one. thanks a lot again.

 

[Citruscide]

I've heard of test only cycles... but I don't think I'd do just test. Just my .02 but I'd put in some EQ at least.

C

 

[johnjohnson107]

It is hard to find stuff when you are out of the loop. I have to wait until I can meet the right people. My gym is not hard core and I am one of the biggest guys there. I may need to search for the hardcore gyms

 

[Zyglamail]

It is hard to find stuff when you are out of the loop. I have to wait until I can meet the right people. My gym is not hard core and I am one of the biggest guys there. I may need to search for the hardcore gyms

The best advice I can give you is hang around the board, ask intelligent questions, do your homework and become part of the community and things have a way of working out.

 

[the_Pikey]

6 Years Ago.

That was my first cycle. Test Cyp, I had EXACTLY what you are holding in your hand, I was young, naive, and curious... So I did it.

I got GREAT results, put on about 19 or 20 pounds, including some fat, but I ate like a monster.

I also tweaked my childhood gynocamastia.

To make things better I moved and never rejoined a gym for months after my cycle. I lost all my gains.

Learn from someone who's been there and fucked it up.

Don't listen to those who say you need sky-high dosages to grow. If it's your first cycle then this will be plenty for you to grow. Should Test be your first cycle ever? Probably not. Will it be the worst thing in the world? Probably not. Will it cause you a mild case of gyno? Could. It's all up to you brother. I would tell you to get your hands on some nolvadex or clomid or both. And make sure you don't fall into a spell of not lifting, or expect to loose it all and have some good excuses for your friends.

Its nice to learn from others mistakes, isn't it?

 

[Zyglamail]

Don't listen to those who say you need sky-high dosages to grow. If it's your first cycle then this will be plenty for you to grow.

I dont think anyone is telling him he needs ski high doses, but at the same time I dont think he has your full story either. You said you gained 19lbs but also got gyno, which likely means you had a shit load of water weight. How long were you lifting before that cycle? If it wasnt a good year or two chances are you could have made close to the same lean gains naturally. I gained I gained 45lbs in my first year of lifting, naturally with a shit diet and no sleep. If your new to lifting and you, you make killer gains with no juice, so without the specifics on your story I take your gains with a grain of salt. Also consider johnjohnson is allready a good sized dude at 235, so I would have to say 250mg/wk is too low and would recommend more in the 400-500mg.wk range.

On a side note, even if you had years of proper lifting under your belt when you gained the 19lbs, I think its rare the people gain the weight you speak of on 250mg/wk.

 

[johnjohnson107]

Thanks again guys, I am learning. Could I lower the time on the cycle to 6 weeks. then I could do 400-500mg every 7 days for 5 weeks. Is that long enough? I have been lifting for 4 years seriously.
I am 6'1 with a 32 in waist and 50 in chest. I have good size and strength. I eat a lot of clean food and have the money to buy lots of protein powder and meat. I have been eating 350-400 grams of protein a day and 700-800-- grams of carbs. I am taking a two week break from eating a lot to let my system rest. I am ready to go back now.

 

[str8cubano]

bro, we all learn this at one point or the other..don't start the cycle without having all your gear. Just get another bottle. Wait if you have to..and get the anti E's just in case, and defintely troulbe..if you can't afford it wait till you can cause your going to fuck yourself up...8-10 weeks is definetly better, test kicks in around the 2 to 3rd week.

 

[johnjohnson107]

money is not a problem . finding the stuff and not being so damn scared that something will go wrong is the problem . i am very educated and do not want to mess my life up with a stupid charge on my record. this is my first cycle, very new to this.

 

[DOM]

Like they said, stick around here and become part of the community and you'll learn a whole lot and things will work out. I know the prospect of AS can be very exciting, but try to be patient. Most everybody here knows what they're doing, so heed their advice. Can't tell you how many posts I've seen in the last couple years on here about a bro who started a cycle without anti-e's thinking they'd come through in the mail in time and had to stop the cycle because they didn't - or worse, didn't stop the cycle and got serious gyno. It's better not to learn the hard way.

 

[johnjohnson107]

O.k dudes, i will keep eating and training and wait. thanks again, i will be reading what you guys say.

 

[tbro]

Well, thanks for the input guys. I only have 10cc's test cypionate. what do I do? I do not have any clomid or anti-estrogens. I am 235 pounds at 7-8%bf and have never used any steroids. Will I make gains on this?

watch out for scammers

tbro out

 

[Behemoth]

definitely dont start without having everything you need.....

Dont count on finding clomid or nolva....have them in hand before starting....Dont count on finding more test......

I did this....my additional test came in....I got 5 tabs of my nolva...and my clomid did not come in....

Hopefully I'm not screwed.......Its sound advise to wait on all of your gear.

 

[the_Pikey]

Yeah, I had only been lifting for about a year before hand, and I didn't explain myself thouroughly. I didn't use 250 each week, This was back when pyramiding was "in". I started at 200, then used around 400mgs each week.

BUT, you are correct, I was only about 185 lbs. when I started, so it will take more for him most definately. I wasn't thinking about this either.

Yes, I got alot of water weight, and yes it acted up my gyno a bit.

When I said "sky high dosages" i was referring to him taking "at least 500mg weekly". Now I think that it is high to be taking over 500mg each week for a first time, but considering his weight, maybe it isn't.

Was just adding my experience, never said I wasn't a dumbass about it.

 

[Zyglamail]

Was just adding my experience, never said I wasn't a dumbass about it.

haha, no sweat, I dont think anyone was implying you were a dumbass. There are just too many factors that ya didnt make clear.