just curious

[peptidebismol]

Yesterday I posted about a p e p t i d e cycle that I wanted to run in between cycles. I had a few questions and wanted to make sure everything was okay before I started. I checked back today, and I see that the thread I had started had been removed. I also noticed before that, when I posted that some of the names of the p e p t i d e s had been removed. I know you guys have a rule about not talking about certain things like DNP, so are p e p t i d e s in the same category as that? It is just a little confusing with all of the threads that I see about them on this board, then not being allowed to talk or ask about them? If I broke any rules, I apologize. Thanks to anyone with some info.

 

[Faizakafez]

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/anabolic-steroids/steroid-forum-rules-1222633.html

 

[John Juan]

Yesterday I posted about a p e p t i d e cycle that I wanted to run in between cycles. I had a few questions and wanted to make sure everything was okay before I started. I checked back today, and I see that the thread I had started had been removed. I also noticed before that, when I posted that some of the names of the p e p t i d e s had been removed. I know you guys have a rule about not talking about certain things like DNP, so are p e p t i d e s in the same category as that? It is just a little confusing with all of the threads that I see about them on this board, then not being allowed to talk or ask about them? If I broke any rules, I apologize. Thanks to anyone with some info.

Bro, you did nothing wrong. There are some shady mods that delete anything that will help the company I rep for. They push their products like there is no tomorrow, giving a beginner a list of a dozen of their products to take. They delete threads that I and my buddy Elvia try to help people in. They make it so the word p e p t I d e s has to be spelled creatively. Look
carefully who is posting up a storm when threads disappear and you'll see who not to trust.
This shady bs needs to stop ASAP!!!

 

[peptidebismol]

Thank you for replying and clearing things up. If that is true, that is pretty shady and not good business ethics at all. Maybe you could take a look at my plan and let me know what you think.

G H R P - 2 - 200mcg 4x/day
C J C - 1295 - 200mcg 4x/day
I G F - 1 L R 3 - 100mcg/day
PEG MGF - 200mcg/day


G H R P - 2 and C J C - 1 2 9 5 - Will pin in the morning, 30-45 minutes pre-breakfast, with fasted cardio and a shower before eating. Again 30-45 minutes in the early Afternoon. 3rd pin will be post workout immediately after hitting the weights, then 30 minutes of cardio followed by a protein and carb shake. Last pin will be before bed. All shots are at least 3-4 hours apart.


I G F - 1 L R 3 - pinning pre-workout, 5x a week. Will be running 4 weeks on, 4 weeks off.


P E G M G F - not sure when the best time to pin this is. The plan right now is to pin subq right before bed.


The plan is to run these all for 4-5 months. Goal is to gain a bit of lean muscle, lean out, and muscle recovery. I am trying to avoid doing micro injection protocols.


Would you change anything, or add anything in to this?


Thanks Bro.gl

 

[John Juan]

Thank you for replying and clearing things up. If that is true, that is pretty shady and not good business ethics at all. Maybe you could take a look at my plan and let me know what you think.

G H R P - 2 - 200mcg 4x/day
C J C - 1295 - 200mcg 4x/day
I G F - 1 L R 3 - 100mcg/day
PEG MGF - 200mcg/day


G H R P - 2 and C J C - 1 2 9 5 - Will pin in the morning, 30-45 minutes pre-breakfast, with fasted cardio and a shower before eating. Again 30-45 minutes in the early Afternoon. 3rd pin will be post workout immediately after hitting the weights, then 30 minutes of cardio followed by a protein and carb shake. Last pin will be before bed. All shots are at least 3-4 hours apart.


I G F - 1 L R 3 - pinning pre-workout, 5x a week. Will be running 4 weeks on, 4 weeks off.


P E G M G F - not sure when the best time to pin this is. The plan right now is to pin subq right before bed.


The plan is to run these all for 4-5 months. Goal is to gain a bit of lean muscle, lean out, and muscle recovery. I am trying to avoid doing micro injection protocols.


Would you change anything, or add anything in to this?


Thanks Bro.gl

The g h r p dose is good. With cjc no dac, anything above 100mcg is a waste. Stick with 100mcg. The dosing protocol for the g h r p and cjc is good.

The issue with igf1-Lr3 is that when igf1 is present, your GHRH/cjc won't be able to release hgh. The hgh release from your ghrp will also be somewhat inhibited. I believe the same true with peg mgf as it is a form of Igf. Both peg mgf and Lr3 are long acting so they will mess with your gh release from the g h r p/GHRH.
What you can do is run igf1-des which is a very fast acting form of Igf so it shouldn't inhibit hgh release. Or, you can run your g h r p/ cjc throughout the day then your Lr3 as your last pep shot of the day. This way by your next g h r p/cjc shot the following morning the Lr3 should have mostly cleared as it is active for around 12 hours. With peg mgf guys usually run it twice a week. I truly can't say if it will negatively impact g h r p/GHRH hgh secretion.

 

[peptidebismol]

Thanks so much for the help. I had no idea it was that in depth and they could counteract each other like that.

So if I went the route of I G F 1 DES, what protocol would you suggest? 100mcg split bilaterally, pinned IM in the muscle trained? So if I was training chest, I would go 50mcg in one pec, and 50mcg in the other. Would you suggest pre or post workout with this? I am thinking post would be better, and then wait a little bit longer before taking the dose of the GH peps.

So basically, pin the the I G F DES post workout. Drink the shake. Then wait about 45 minutes to an hour, pin the GH peps, and eat 30 minutes later. Seem good?

 

[John Juan]

I g f 1 d e s works best in an environment high in lactic acid so optimally take it right before training or after a few sets of training.
100mcg split bilaterally is perfect. The pump will be outrageous! Add in 12.5mg tadalafil an hour preworkout and you'll be so pumped it'll hurt.

 

[peptidebismol]

Okay, so take it directly before working out.. or even step into the bathroom and take it after a few sets? That would be best. Then with that I could just do the normal dosing protocol with he G H R P and CJC.

PEG MGF, would you just can this for now, or try to fit it in somewhere?

 

[John Juan]

Exactly. You've got it.
I tried peg mgf twice and got nothing out of it. It was a coule years ago. Maybe it was just bunk.
If you throw in mgf I would use the regular fast acting mgf and put it in the muscle trained immediately post workout when mgf production takes place naturally. The fast acting won't mess up your gh peps.