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I like Kerry. I need to learn more about him before November, but I think he is definately going to win the demo nomination. I really don't know enough yet to know who I am voting for, I like Bush in many ways but the way he used the Presidency for profit really irks me to no end.
Still, Bush was a better choice than Gore IMHO.
Still, Bush was a better choice than Gore IMHO.
Here read this about your beloved John Kerry. Then of course telll us how irrelevant it is, that it is a bunch of bs and lies by the GOP. But, before you do see if it is real or just fantasy.
"Open Letter to John Kerry:
My wife had rotator cuff surgery earlier this year, and the recovery is
terribly painful. Then, she developed a staph-epi infection, and they had
to cut the same scar open and operate on her again. Just thinking about
the pain and anxiety of facing that painful surgery a second time in the
same wound, makes me cringe. That experience, however pales in comparison
to what I am going through right now, in my heart.
The old hurts are surfacing and the feelings of betrayal by fellow
citizens and their leader stirring them up, are breaking my heart again.
I am being cut in the same scar. How did we who served in Vietnam
suddenly become cold-blooded killers, torturers, and rapists, of the ilk
of the Nazi SS or the Taliban? Most of us were American soldiers who
grew up idolizing John Wayne, Roy Rogers, and all the other heroes. That
was why I volunteered.
But for political expediency, John Kerry has rewritten history, again.
After spending only four months in the country of Vietnam, John Kerry
testified before Congress in 1971 with these exact words about incidents
he
supposedly witnessed or heard about from other vets: "They personally
raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones
to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up
bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages, shot cattle and dogs
for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the countryside of
South Vietnam."
I was a green beret officer who volunteered for duty in Vietnam and
fought in the thick of it in 1968 and 1969 on a Special Forces A-team on
the Ho Chi Minh Trail, just for starters. We were the elite. We saw the
most action. Everybody in the world knows that. But we did not just kill
people, we built a church, a school, treated illnesses, passed out soap,
food, and clothing, and had fun and loving interaction with the
indigenous people of Vietnam, just like our boys did in Normandy,
Baghdad, Saigon, and everywhere American soldiers ever served. We all
gave away our candy bars and rations to kids.
Our hearts to oppressed people all over the globe.
My children and grandchildren could read your words, and think those
horrendous things about me, Mr. Kerry. You are a bold-faced, unprincipled
liar, and a disgrace, and you have dishonored me and all my fellow
Vietnam veterans. Sure, there were a couple bad-apples, but I saw none,
and I saw it all, and if I did, as an army officer, it was my obligation
to stop it, or at the very least report it. Why is there not a single
record anywhere of you ever reporting any incidents like this or having
the perpetrators arrested? The answer is simple. You are a liar. Your
medals and mine are not a free pass for lifetime, Senator Kerry, to
bypass character, integrity, and morality. I earn my green beret over and
over daily in all aspects of my life.
Eight National Guard green berets, and other National Guard soldiers,
have been killed in Iraq and Afghanistan, and you totally dishonored
their widows and families by lumping National Guard service in with being
a draft-dodger, conscientious objector, and deserter, just so you can try
to sabotage the patriotism of our President who proudly served as an Air
National Guard jet pilot. I have a son earning his green beret at Fort
Bragg right now, and his wife serves honorably in the Air National Guard,
just like President Bush did, and I am as proud of her as I am my son. I
volunteered for Vietnam and have no problem whatsoever with President
Bush being our Commander-In-Chief. In fact, I am proud of him as our
leader.
John Kerry, you personally derailed the Vietnam Human rights Bill,
HR2883, in 2001, after it had passed the House by a 411 to 1 vote, and
thousands of pro-American Montagnard tribespeople in Vietnam died since
then who could have been saved, by you. Earlier, as Chair of the Senate
Select Committee on MIA/POW Affairs, you personally quashed the efforts
of any and all veterans to report sightings of living POW's, when you
held those reins in Congress.
You have fought tooth and nail to push for the US to normalize relations
with Vietnam for years. Why, Mr. Kerry? Simple, your first cousin C.
Stewart Forbes, CEO, of Colliers International, recently signed a
contract with Hanoi, worth BILLIONS of dollars for Collier's
International to become the exclusive real estate representative for the
country of Vietnam.
"Hanoi John," now that it works for you, you beat your chest about your
Vietnam service, but to me, you are a phony, opportunistic, hypocrite.
You are one of those politicians that is like a fertilizer machine: all
that
comes out of you is horse manure, and you are spreading it everywhere.
Medals do not make a man. Morals do.
Don Bendell
Canon City, Colorado
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Don Bendell served as an officer in four Special Forces Groups, is a
best-selling author with over 1,500,000 books in print, a 1995 inductee
into the International Karate Hall of Fame, and owns karate schools in
southern Colorado.
"Open Letter to John Kerry:
My wife had rotator cuff surgery earlier this year, and the recovery is
terribly painful. Then, she developed a staph-epi infection, and they had
to cut the same scar open and operate on her again. Just thinking about
the pain and anxiety of facing that painful surgery a second time in the
same wound, makes me cringe. That experience, however pales in comparison
to what I am going through right now, in my heart.
The old hurts are surfacing and the feelings of betrayal by fellow
citizens and their leader stirring them up, are breaking my heart again.
I am being cut in the same scar. How did we who served in Vietnam
suddenly become cold-blooded killers, torturers, and rapists, of the ilk
of the Nazi SS or the Taliban? Most of us were American soldiers who
grew up idolizing John Wayne, Roy Rogers, and all the other heroes. That
was why I volunteered.
But for political expediency, John Kerry has rewritten history, again.
After spending only four months in the country of Vietnam, John Kerry
testified before Congress in 1971 with these exact words about incidents
he
supposedly witnessed or heard about from other vets: "They personally
raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones
to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up
bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages, shot cattle and dogs
for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the countryside of
South Vietnam."
I was a green beret officer who volunteered for duty in Vietnam and
fought in the thick of it in 1968 and 1969 on a Special Forces A-team on
the Ho Chi Minh Trail, just for starters. We were the elite. We saw the
most action. Everybody in the world knows that. But we did not just kill
people, we built a church, a school, treated illnesses, passed out soap,
food, and clothing, and had fun and loving interaction with the
indigenous people of Vietnam, just like our boys did in Normandy,
Baghdad, Saigon, and everywhere American soldiers ever served. We all
gave away our candy bars and rations to kids.
Our hearts to oppressed people all over the globe.
My children and grandchildren could read your words, and think those
horrendous things about me, Mr. Kerry. You are a bold-faced, unprincipled
liar, and a disgrace, and you have dishonored me and all my fellow
Vietnam veterans. Sure, there were a couple bad-apples, but I saw none,
and I saw it all, and if I did, as an army officer, it was my obligation
to stop it, or at the very least report it. Why is there not a single
record anywhere of you ever reporting any incidents like this or having
the perpetrators arrested? The answer is simple. You are a liar. Your
medals and mine are not a free pass for lifetime, Senator Kerry, to
bypass character, integrity, and morality. I earn my green beret over and
over daily in all aspects of my life.
Eight National Guard green berets, and other National Guard soldiers,
have been killed in Iraq and Afghanistan, and you totally dishonored
their widows and families by lumping National Guard service in with being
a draft-dodger, conscientious objector, and deserter, just so you can try
to sabotage the patriotism of our President who proudly served as an Air
National Guard jet pilot. I have a son earning his green beret at Fort
Bragg right now, and his wife serves honorably in the Air National Guard,
just like President Bush did, and I am as proud of her as I am my son. I
volunteered for Vietnam and have no problem whatsoever with President
Bush being our Commander-In-Chief. In fact, I am proud of him as our
leader.
John Kerry, you personally derailed the Vietnam Human rights Bill,
HR2883, in 2001, after it had passed the House by a 411 to 1 vote, and
thousands of pro-American Montagnard tribespeople in Vietnam died since
then who could have been saved, by you. Earlier, as Chair of the Senate
Select Committee on MIA/POW Affairs, you personally quashed the efforts
of any and all veterans to report sightings of living POW's, when you
held those reins in Congress.
You have fought tooth and nail to push for the US to normalize relations
with Vietnam for years. Why, Mr. Kerry? Simple, your first cousin C.
Stewart Forbes, CEO, of Colliers International, recently signed a
contract with Hanoi, worth BILLIONS of dollars for Collier's
International to become the exclusive real estate representative for the
country of Vietnam.
"Hanoi John," now that it works for you, you beat your chest about your
Vietnam service, but to me, you are a phony, opportunistic, hypocrite.
You are one of those politicians that is like a fertilizer machine: all
that
comes out of you is horse manure, and you are spreading it everywhere.
Medals do not make a man. Morals do.
Don Bendell
Canon City, Colorado
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Don Bendell served as an officer in four Special Forces Groups, is a
best-selling author with over 1,500,000 books in print, a 1995 inductee
into the International Karate Hall of Fame, and owns karate schools in
southern Colorado.
Silent Method
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WODIN said:
When hate is all you've got...
Burning_Inside
Elite Mentor
Well going into that guy's letter Chesty pasted, theoretically, people enlisting in the Natl. Guard ARE draft dodging. Though I don't blame them.
the nature boy
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so I guess the link between kerry's cousin and vietnam bothers Mr Bendell, but the link between haliburton and cheney doesn't seem to bother him. Looks like he's wearing rose colored glasses if you ask me.
Y_lifter
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Yea, I looked over the hot issues and it seems to "SAY" that
he is a relative moderate Liberal.. Which is where I pretty much stand.. I am a registered Republican and voted for GW last time.
I would like to see a consolidation of his voting record on said issues if anyone has a link..
IMO, that's what really matters. His past voting performance as a whole Vs what he Says or a couple of pointed ones.
he is a relative moderate Liberal.. Which is where I pretty much stand.. I am a registered Republican and voted for GW last time.
I would like to see a consolidation of his voting record on said issues if anyone has a link..
IMO, that's what really matters. His past voting performance as a whole Vs what he Says or a couple of pointed ones.
Y_lifter
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He gets paid to make a decision that is best for the whole in his
Opinion. Not to make a decision based on him being a Vet or a
Yankee or a White Male..
Maybe this decision was very hard because of him being a vet,
but he did make it hopefully for the right reasons.
I don't know the details of the bill or whatever he stalled/voted against..
Opinion. Not to make a decision based on him being a Vet or a
Yankee or a White Male..
Maybe this decision was very hard because of him being a vet,
but he did make it hopefully for the right reasons.
I don't know the details of the bill or whatever he stalled/voted against..
Y_lifter
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I hear all the time about congress making decisions that don't make sense just because it helped their home state..
Wasting money etc..
I understand they are supposed to represent and watch out for their locals but to do something just because of that regardless of it making sense or not Burns me up..
Wasting money etc..
I understand they are supposed to represent and watch out for their locals but to do something just because of that regardless of it making sense or not Burns me up..
Synpax
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Had Dean gotten out before Wisconcin, Edwards would have won. I think Edwards now stands a 50/50 chance of winning the nomination.
If you are looking for an honest, non-partisan and critical assessment of Kerry based not what he did 30 years ago but as a Senator, look here:
http://www.sacbee.com/content/opinion/national/will/story/8254587p-9185229c.html
If you are looking for an honest, non-partisan and critical assessment of Kerry based not what he did 30 years ago but as a Senator, look here:
http://www.sacbee.com/content/opinion/national/will/story/8254587p-9185229c.html
Burning_Inside
Elite Mentor
WODIN said:
Well i mean if there is a draft going on at the time.
My dad kinda did that. He enlisted full time however.
TXM4DM4N
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Turd Ferguson
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I'd vote for a canidate ( and have ) that dosen't bow down to the special interest money. Kerry has taken the most. You know his buddies are going to be calling in the favors at some point. Basically you need about 50 million to get the nod from your party? What the fuck? Somebody's gonna want a favor for that kind of money. It should be a law that you can't take a dime when campaineing from any big corporations.
the nature boy
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Synpax said:
george F will is by no means non-partisan. you know that right?
as for all the special interests that have lined kerry's pockets with cash, that's pretty much status quo for politicians. I don't like it, but what's he supposed to do? Dubya went nuts last week raising money.
I like edwards, but I feel that he's too young. perhaps he'd be a vice president nominee.
the nature boy
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Turd Ferguson said:
very very true. look at the last 3 years, can you guess who contributed significantly to dubya's campaign for the presidency? if you said defense contractors and enengy companies, you would be correct. big shocker there.
atlantabiolab
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WODIN said:
Nice rhetoric. Now if you go and link on the various issues on this site, you can see that he is a vehement socialist.
Replacing one idiot for another does nothing.
the nature boy
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atlantabiolab said:
sure it does. at least with douchebag kerry he'll most likely get stonewalled by the republican controlled congress if he wins. right now bush can get anything passed.
the nature boy
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Synpax said:
what does that have to do with anything?
Synpax
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bluepeter said:
Yep, that is what is the number 1 driving factor for the Democrat primary voters. It is also the number 1 driving factor for Republican primary voters. Face it, their hearts are with Howard Dean / Pat Buchanan, but they wind up going for Bill Clinton / W.
I think that is somewhat short-sited however, because Presidents who make a worthwhile impact are more likely to have been chosen for being a true believer rather than their 'electability.' Believe it or not, primary voters stink at choosing candidates based on electability.
I think it's pretty sad though that you guys ditched Dean. He was the only honest guy in the primary.
Everyone of those other guys *voted* what they criticize the President for - Iraq, No child left behind, Patriot Act, NAFTA, WTO (except Edwards, who wasn't around for the last two). Edwards, Clark, and Kerry are, as they say on the Sopranos, hwoers.
atlantabiolab
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And how in the hell does he plan to do this?
Throw more money at an overfunded system that has failed miserably. Smart.
You won't be in debt, he will force your neighbors to cover your debts.
The nurses were FORCED to strike??? What working conditions were they fighting for? Are they working in mine shafts? Long hours? They should thank Kerry and other socialists for their part in driving the demand for healthcare through the roof. When you tell people that healthcare is a right, then of course you drive up the demand.
Kerry's fight to increase the number of nurses is a logical contradiction in his platform. When you increase the supply of nurses, what do you think will happen to the salaries of nurses? It will drop. You cannot demand high salaries when there are fifty people standing outside that will do the same job for less.
Those bastards!! How dare they "hide" their money? Kerry has plans for its use.
Kerry wants you to pay more for your food, increase the amount of land that is used for farming, and essentially subsidize farms with your money.
He is a total fuck-up.
the nature boy
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Synpax said:
you show me a george F will article asking the same sort of questions to Bush and I'll say that's a non-partisan piece. that link and everything Will does is completely partisan. I'm not going to defend kerry, he's a politician, but to say that link was non-partisan was rediculous.
They both suck. 
They are politicians, and when asked what they will do, they go off on a rambling five minute speech, four minutes of which is devoted to how bad their opponent is. If you are lucky they will spend one minute to give a very brief outline of what they want to do, and how they will accomplish it.
A politician will never give specifics on his programs, just a brief summary. Vagueness is their best friend. They almost sound like beauty contestants. What would you like to accomplish? "Well, I would like to see world peace and an end to world hunger." Give me a break, and while you're at it, give me a candidate that will tell me what THEY are going to do, not what their opponent is going to do.
They are politicians, and when asked what they will do, they go off on a rambling five minute speech, four minutes of which is devoted to how bad their opponent is. If you are lucky they will spend one minute to give a very brief outline of what they want to do, and how they will accomplish it.
A politician will never give specifics on his programs, just a brief summary. Vagueness is their best friend. They almost sound like beauty contestants. What would you like to accomplish? "Well, I would like to see world peace and an end to world hunger." Give me a break, and while you're at it, give me a candidate that will tell me what THEY are going to do, not what their opponent is going to do.
strongsmartsexy
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As long as Bush isn't in office after this election I'll be happy. I've voted Republican for 34 years. After watching him get up in his state of the union address and bringing up steroids in sports as a national issue it was abundantly clear that his cranium is irreparably buried in his rectum. With all the REAL issues going inside and outside of the US at the moment, anabolic steroids aren’t even a worthy topic for a BF somewhere Podunk new station to carry.
atlantabiolab
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WODIN said:
So what you are saying is that the American citizen does better when he/she is burdened with tax and spend programs? I see.....
I live on money, what do you use?
Synpax
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The Nature Boy said:
Your logic is broken. You are saying that this article is only non-partisan, not based on it's content, but on whether or not another article exists or not?
Clearly, this is not true. Words and their meaning exist objectivly. That is why they have utility in communication - I can sound out some syllables or type letters, and you can understand them because they are objectively real.
The Will article mirrors the criticism you just made of Kerry. You said you can't defend him because he is a politician. Does that statement make you a partisan?
the nature boy
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Synpax said:
maybe my logic is broken. all I'm trying to say is that George F Will is always partisan. If you don't agree then we'll have to agree to disagree.
WODIN said:
Anyone with 2 brain cells knows that, during the Vietnam era, the greatest threat to the United States was from the Soviet Union, not from the North Vietnamese. The role of the Air National guard was to protect U.S. airspace.
To characterize NG service as shirking responsibility is just wrong. But not as wrong as John Kerry coming back early from his abbreviated tour of duty where he received 3 Purple Hearts for superficial scratches, then joining the Jane Fonda crowd, charging the U.S. with war atriocities, giving aid and comfort to the enemy, prolonging the war, and causing the deaths of more American servicemen.
the nature boy
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Hangfire said:
dubya was protecting his alcohol and cocaine buzz.
as for kerry, the dude had like 3 tour's of duty. he can say what he wants about vietnam, he's entitled.
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Apöllo
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You funny people, you know there are more than just George and John running.
Such as Al Hamburg
Perennial candidate Al Hamburg has lost 14 consecutive bids for President and for Governor, US Senate and Congress. He proudly describes himself as the "Very Independent UNPOPULAR Candidate" -- unpopular, he explains, because the special interests and bureaucrats hate him. A house painter by trade, Hamburg spent nearly twenty years in the Army -- serving in the Korean and Vietnam Wars. Before becoming an Independent, Hamburg ran for state office several times as a Democrat and as a member of the now-defunct New Alliance Party. Claiming to be a homeless veteran, Hamburg suddenly popped-up in Nebraska in 2000 -- claimed that state as his new residency -- and filed as a candidate there for US Senator in the Democratic primary. Hamburg is now back in Wyoming and running for President in 2004. He filed FEC paperwork for the race in July 2001.
http://www.vote-smart.org/bio.php?can_id=BZZ88666
Such as Al Hamburg
Perennial candidate Al Hamburg has lost 14 consecutive bids for President and for Governor, US Senate and Congress. He proudly describes himself as the "Very Independent UNPOPULAR Candidate" -- unpopular, he explains, because the special interests and bureaucrats hate him. A house painter by trade, Hamburg spent nearly twenty years in the Army -- serving in the Korean and Vietnam Wars. Before becoming an Independent, Hamburg ran for state office several times as a Democrat and as a member of the now-defunct New Alliance Party. Claiming to be a homeless veteran, Hamburg suddenly popped-up in Nebraska in 2000 -- claimed that state as his new residency -- and filed as a candidate there for US Senator in the Democratic primary. Hamburg is now back in Wyoming and running for President in 2004. He filed FEC paperwork for the race in July 2001.
http://www.vote-smart.org/bio.php?can_id=BZZ88666
The Nature Boy said:
That is bullshit. Kerry had ONE shortened tour. He exercised the option of a triple Purple Heart awardee (not winner, in his case) to end his tour early. He stated that none of his wounds took him out of action for more than 2 days. Fucking war hero. Learn the facts.
Synpax
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The Nature Boy said:
This article is not. His personal politics, and his choice of the subject may be partisan, but none of the criticism contained in it is.
Do you have any evidence to to the contrary? An example?
And if your logic (the determinant for reason as a rational being), how can you be sure of anything?
Isn't saying your logic is broken but that you think Will is always partisan a contradiction, as logic is needed to know that Will is always partisan?
the nature boy
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Synpax said:
I never said you couldn't. It's a free country.
Burning_Inside
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well if no one likes kerry, dig up some stuff on Kucinich, cause he supposedly is right on par with Kerry's views, except, he's NOT Kerry.
PIGEON-RAT
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As President, John Kerry will ensure that every high school student in America performs community service as a requirement for graduation. This service will be a rite of passage for our nation’s youth and will help foster a lifetime of service. States would design service programs that meet their community and educational needs. However, John Kerry does not believe in unfunded mandates. No state would be obligated to implement a service requirement if the federal government does not live up to its obligation to fund the program.
http://johnkerry.com/issues/natservice/
http://johnkerry.com/issues/natservice/
the nature boy
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PIGEON-RAT said:As President, John Kerry will ensure that every high school student in America performs community service as a requirement for graduation. This service will be a rite of passage for our nation’s youth and will help foster a lifetime of service. States would design service programs that meet their community and educational needs. However, John Kerry does not believe in unfunded mandates. No state would be obligated to implement a service requirement if the federal government does not live up to its obligation to fund the program.
http://johnkerry.com/issues/natservice/
lol great. I'm surprised bush hasn't tried this shit.
Hangfire said:
HOW MANYTIMES DO I HAVE TO REPEAT THIS!
In the 1970's, during the vietnam era only .03% of all National Guard Reservist went to vietnam. 03%! That means that 99.97% of the people in the NG were not called up. In todays guard 20% have been called up to active duity in Iraq. ......03%...........20%.......... The Gaurd of the 1970's was the No. 1 route for the wealthy and affluent with dumb kids to keep those idiots out of vietnam. So its NOT WRONG to characterize that ear of the NG as such.
And by minimizing the contribution of ANY soldier shows you're a simple minded partisan polotics moron.
Fact: Kerry did go to Vietnam and fight.
Fact: Bush played around in the NG and barely showed up!
Fact: Kerry did recieve 3 Purple hearts.
Fact: Bush cant even spell Purple Heart.
So what if Jane Fonda protested against the war in vietnam....MILLIONS of people did!!!
Hangfire said:
"I am angry that so many of the sons of the powerful and well placed ... managed to wangle slots in Reserve and National Guard units. Of the many tragedies of Vietnam, this raw class discrimination strikes me as the most damaging to the ideal that all Americans are created equal and owe equal allegiance to their country." --Colin Powell
(Props to Mr. dB)
atlantabiolab
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WODIN said:
The simple mindedness of this whole issue is the fallacy that someone is suited for a position based on one thing they did many years ago. Claiming that Kerry's war record is evidence that he is a good candidate, while discarding the relevant information that is his position on issues, shows the ignorance of the masses.
The same applies to Bush. If he was a fuck-up in his earlier years is irrelevant to today. There are numerous present day facts about his presidential record that are sufficient to decide whether he must remain president or be ousted.
Both Kerry and Bush are poor presidential candidates. And I concluded this without taking into consideration what they did 30 years ago.
the nature boy
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atlantabiolab said:
no arguement here.
WODIN said:
Holy shit! Is English your first language? The MISSION of the NG during the Vietnam era was different than it is present day. The reason for the increased Guard callup to combat is because your beloved Bill Clinton gutted the standing military during his glorious eight year reign. You are wrong to smear anybody who served, then or now.
Genius, you are the one minimizing President Bush's contribution. Like it or not, the guy flew jets to keep you safe. At least Jane Fonda eventually apologized for damaging the country. Kerry still has not.
I never loved Bill Clinton.
The Armed Services decreased in size during those 8 years maybe because the economy rocked and people had other viable options for subsistance.
You want to increase the military numbers of a volunteer army, the economy has to sour....
Hmmmmmm
The Armed Services decreased in size during those 8 years maybe because the economy rocked and people had other viable options for subsistance.
You want to increase the military numbers of a volunteer army, the economy has to sour....
Hmmmmmm
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atlantabiolab said:
Funny that you should say something like that, about how the past doesn't effect the person you are today. Ironically a Carla Fay Tucker, a woman on death row, begged then Governor, George Bush, for a stay of execution. She claimed she was no longer the person that she was then and has found CHRIST! She also hoped that being that she was a woman it would help her case.
I rejected her plea and she was put to death.
atlantabiolab
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Apöllo said:
And your point is? Last time I checked we were a nation of laws.
PIGEON-RAT
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Apöllo said:
you're bush?
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Synpax said:
What makes you think a governer does not have this power? This is not from a website, this is actual news.
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DcupSheepNipples
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Bush=Kerry, Kerry=Bush!
And for the Sheeple it = hell on earth!
And for the Sheeple it = hell on earth!
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atlantabiolab said:
Do you know what irony is?
Synpax
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Apöllo said:
Because I know about things I decide to post about. Some governors can give death penalty pardons, others cannot. The governor of TX cannot.
'The governor cannot prevent an execution on his or her own.'
http://texaspolitics.lamc.utexas.edu/html/exec/0700.html
I am incredibly dilligent in only posting what is true and verifiably so.
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Apöllo
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Synpax said:
"In death penalty cases, the governor can issue one thirty-day reprieve."
This is what she asked for. This is what I said. She ask for a "stay" of exicution. Why are you arguing with me?
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