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i've fallen off the wagon....

I wish he would just pouring out his' thoughts in one long drunkin rampage. It would be like HT on jet fuel.
 
vixensghost said:
Great! One step closer to a straight jacket and drooling bibs.
we begin life like that & end life like that. what you can't change, you should accept......
 
HumanTarget said:
we begin life like that & end life like that. what you can't change, you should accept......


It's gotta be tough 'splainin YOUR diaper buldge to peeps though. You have no shame....:)
 
since march 1st I went 77 days,then 95 days and now it's about 65 days. the last day I drank was oct 1st in Ukraine. I think I'm done with drinking as I don't even desire it or the drunk at all.
 
just an FYI I went almost 9 years not drinking form age 30-39 and then started back oct '01
about the same damn time elite instituted the karma system
 
so anybody here including you HT want to chat up alcoholism and/or drug addiction just ask me

I got much experience
 
Spartacus said:
so anybody here including you HT want to chat up alcoholism and/or drug addiction just ask me

I got much experience

Yeah, I've got a family member that's addicted to alcohol and its breaking my heart.
 
HumanTarget said:
idk. a long time. but i've been drinking a 5th or 12pk. a day for the last 2 months........every day is a party.

The family member I know averages about 20 beers a day some days. I'd be in a coma if I drank that much. It's hard to watch.
 
biteme said:
The family member I know averages about 20 beers a day some days. I'd be in a coma if I drank that much. It's hard to watch.
I gave up drinking, too expensive both $$$ and calorie wise.
 
musclemom said:
I gave up drinking, too expensive both $$$ and calorie wise.
Ironically I find that I spend more money not drinking. when you're a heavy alcoholic as I was/am you end up mostly drinking alone and thus the alcohol is cheap because you buy it and bring it home.

now sober I have dates and they are far more expensive than an 18 pack of miller lite

sunday night I had a cobb salad and she had a piece of fish.we shared some desert. no drinks
50 bucks

50 bucks is around 3 days of beer
 
Spartacus said:
so anybody here including you HT want to chat up alcoholism and/or drug addiction just ask me

I got much experience
i always thought there should be an AA or NA forum here. people who, however unprofitable to EF, want to stay off drugs and alcohol. thus serving an ACTUAL purpose.......
 
Spartacus said:
since march 1st I went 77 days,then 95 days and now it's about 65 days. the last day I drank was oct 1st in Ukraine. I think I'm done with drinking as I don't even desire it or the drunk at all.

good... congratulations. That's nice to hear as I think you have a lot to offer and it's not so apparent when you're drinking.

HT. get back on. you have the best job in your whole life to prepare for right now.
 
HumanTarget said:
i always thought there should be an AA or NA forum here. people who, however unprofitable to EF, want to stay off drugs and alcohol. thus serving an ACTUAL purpose.......
C&C works well enough
there's about a dozen of us here
I can usually tell when one of us goes on a bender and posts

we I do it it's blantently obvious

that's one of the worst effects of heavy drinking/alcoholism
you get meaner as time goes on

when I started back drinking oct 01 I was a happy drunk
and now I'm mean

I never used to be mean
never got into a bar fight until aug last year
I'm not a mean person and it scares me the animosity that emerges when I drink

fuck it Im done
I drank when I went to ukraine twice and that's it
god I hope
 
Spartacus said:
Ironically I find that I spend more money not drinking. when you're a heavy alcoholic as I was/am you end up mostly drinking alone and thus the alcohol is cheap because you buy it and bring it home.

now sober I have dates and they are far more expensive than an 18 pack of miller lite

sunday night I had a cobb salad and she had a piece of fish.we shared some desert. no drinks
50 bucks

50 bucks is around 3 days of beer
Check your K message :qt:
 
jnevin said:
Numbs the pain for me. I never really get mean, I just don't feel, I don't remember, I just am, and it's ok until I wake up.
toughest thing for me is being a mortician
I have 13-14 years of dead in my brain
it's not the dead bodies
it's not the grief and greaving

it's having to face your mortality daily

even if I were to leave the business and move to vegas(any "fun" growing city etc)
the mortuary biz will be with me

it's made me damn close to being nihilistic
and alcohol and/or sedation or any drug escape offers solace
 
:(

stress from having a youngin on the way?

You're a big dude.....i figured your dedication to the gym would deter your alcohol consumption.

the more dedicated i am in the gym, the less i drink/go out. maybe once a week
 
meh. i tilt another drink shortly. one of my fave lil' ol' ladies here at my center just told me she has breast cancer. my lord the world can suck rhinocerous cock at times...
 
had a crippled old man at the funeral home a few years back
he was around mid-eighties and had been all crippled up in the fetal position for about the last 20 years of his life
couldn't communicate and I remember a nurse sayin' she could see him alive in his eyes
20 years of that I thought
the horror
 
Spartacus said:
had a crippled old man at the funeral home a few years back
he was around mid-eighties and had been all crippled up in the fetal position for about the last 20 years of his life
couldn't communicate and I remember a nurse sayin' she could see him alive in his eyes
20 years of that I thought
the horror

that's terrible....stuff like that really makes me feel assisted suicide should be legal.

i remember my grandmother in the last 5-8 years of her life would constantly tell my father she wishes she just died already. Osteoperosis did a number on her spine and had chronic pain. last time i saw her she was barely able to move....she died like a month later.

that's no way to live...
 
seeing grown men whom i call "sir" being treated like 5 y/o children makes me wanna crack open the case of my chainsaw....
 
Was sitting on the couch with Linda, the good dark night descending, when there was a knock on the door. Linda got it.

Better come here, Hank..."

I walked to the door, barefooted, in my robe. A young blond guy, a young fat girl and a medium sized girl.

They want your autograph..."

I don´t see people," I told them.

We just want your autograph," said the blond guy, then we promise never to come back."

Then he started giggling, and holding his head. The girls just stared.

But none of you have a pen or even a piece of paper I said.

Oh," said the blond kid, taking his hands from his head, We´ll come back again with a book! Myabe at a more proper time..."

Tha bathrobe. The bare feet. Maybe the kid thought i was eccentric. Maybe I was.

Don´t come in the morning," I told them.

I saw them begin to walk off and I closed the door...

Now I´m up here writing about them. You´ve got to be a little hard with them or they´ll swarm you. I´ve had some horrible expreriences blocking that door. So many of them think that somehow you´ll invite them in and drink with them all night. I prefer to drink alone. A writer owes nothing except to his writing. He owes nothing to the reader except the availability of the printed page. And worse, many of the doorknockers are not even readers. They´ve just heard something. The reader and the best human is the one who rewards me with his or her absence.
 
Slow at the track today, my damned life dangling on the hook. I am there every day. I don´t see anybody else out there every day except the employees. I probably have some malady. Saroyan lost his ass at the track, Fante at poker, Dostoevsky at the weel. And it´s really not a matter of the money unless you run out of it. I had a gambler friend once who said, I don´t care if I win or lose, I just want to gamble."
 
I suppose there´s always something out there we want to torment ourselves with. And at the track you get the feel of the other people, the desperate darkness, and how easy they toss it in and quit. The racetrack crowd is the world brought down to size, life grinding against death and losing. Nobody wins finally, we are just seeking a reprieve, a moment out of the glare.
 
I smoke too much, I drink too much but I can´t write too much, it just keeps coming and I call for more and it arrives and mixes with Mahler. Sometimes I deliberately stop myself. I say, wait a moment, go to sleep or look at your 9 cats or sit with your wife on the couch. You´re either at the track or with the Macintosh. And then I stop, put on the brakes, park the damned thing. Some people have written that my writing has helped them go on. It has helped me too. The writing, the roses, the 9 cats
 
There´s a small balcony here, the door is open and I can see the lights of the cars on the Harbor Freeway south, they never stop, that roll of lights, on and on. All those people. What are they doing? What are they thinking? We´re all going to die, all of us, what a circus! That alone should make us love each other but it doesn´t. We are terrorized and flattened by trivialities, we are eaten up by nothing.
 
you guys should change up substances, weed is much better less destructive
and it fullfills the urge for a vice, which is what must of us crave
doesn't matter what the vice
 
HumanTarget said:
seeing grown men whom i call "sir" being treated like 5 y/o children makes me wanna crack open the case of my chainsaw....
today's wall street journal front page center article was on prescription drug abuse in US nursing homes
"powerful antipsychotics used to subdue elderly"

aging population
basically pills are cheaper than people

cant say I blame them
who's going to pay to have each alzheimer's/dementia patient cared for by a person each

when it's my turn
drug me up
 
bukowski. i thought i was the only one who liked his descriptions.....he used to be a mailman. was so good at the betting scene.....
 
This lady I worked with tonight was telling me about the bad car wreck she got in last year and how she was almost killed. They were slammed into from behind and pushed into oncoming traffic and slammed into again in the side.. She said she looked in the back seat at her son as her vehicle was being rammed and she unmistakenly (according to her) saw angels decscend and wrap their wings around her son. Maybe she was hallucinating, I don't know. She says she is certain of what she saw... I thought I'd tell of something good since the world sucks so bad. That story brightened my night.
 
i drank 2 rust covered miller lites and a red bull in the shower today. i should start a drinking log.....
 
HumanTarget said:
i drank 2 rust covered miller lites and a red bull in the shower today. i should start a drinking log.....
smoke weed my son, booze sucks and is not condusive to bb'ing or whatever you do.
 
stupid bitch takes 10 minutes after i order to tell me they don't have what i want. then it takes 5 more minutes for me to lose my patience waiting for the fucking manager before i go into the kitchen and find her. wtf? doesn't anyone ever do their job anymore? fucking low rent restaurant workers ought to be replaced by goddam 3 toed-sloths.......or mexicans.
 
HumanTarget said:
i drank 2 rust covered miller lites and a red bull in the shower today. i should start a drinking log.....
i bet your mouth mouth breath melted the shower curtain.... :FRlol:
 
HumanTarget said:
stupid bitch takes 10 minutes after i order to tell me they don't have what i want. then it takes 5 more minutes for me to lose my patience waiting for the fucking manager before i go into the kitchen and find her. wtf? doesn't anyone ever do their job anymore? fucking low rent restaurant workers ought to be replaced by goddam 3 toed-sloths.......or mexicans.

This is sad.........

taking it out on a waitress? Maybe she didn't find out till the cooks said something? There's a million scenarios that could have happened...not the end of the world man. Projecting your anger on other people isn't going to change anything

I hope you get yourself straightened out bro, for real. I'm surprised more people aren't like "wtf" on this thread out of concern.

The destructive path you are on is going to get worse. I remember you saying you stopped taking your anti depressants...maybe you should go back on?
 
Spartacus said:
Most people are not ready for death, theirs or anybody else´s. It shocks them, terrifies them. It´s like a great surprise. Hell, it should never be. I carry death in my left pocket. Sometimes I take it out and talk to it: Hello, baby, how you doing? When you coming for me? I´ll be ready."
 
There´s nothing to mourn about death any more than there is to mourn about the growing of a flower. What is terrible is not death but the lives people live or don´t live up until their death. They don´t honor their own lives, they piss on their lives. They shit them away. Dumb fuckers. They concentrate too much on fucking, movies, money, family, fucking. Their mindes are full of cotton. They swallow God without thinking, they swallow country without thinking. Soon they forget how to think, they let others think for them. Their brains are stuffed with cotton. They look ugly, they talk ugly, they walk ugly. Play them the great music of the centuries and they can´t hear it. Most people´s deaths are a sham. Thare´s nothing left to die.
 
calveless wonder said:
This is sad.........

taking it out on a waitress? Maybe she didn't find out till the cooks said something? There's a million scenarios that could have happened...not the end of the world man. Projecting your anger on other people isn't going to change anything

I hope you get yourself straightened out bro, for real. I'm surprised more people aren't like "wtf" on this thread out of concern.

The destructive path you are on is going to get worse. I remember you saying you stopped taking your anti depressants...maybe you should go back on?
how terrified were those restraunt employees to see a hulking tatted up pissy customer coming after the cook?
 
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