Is TREN only good for a cutter?

[shape]

at what dose and what anti-es to go with it?

6 weeks 8 weeks?

 

[Mr.X]

at what dose and what anti-es to go with it?

6 weeks 8 weeks?

Tren doesn't cause estrogen sides, so 'anti-Es' are not your term of choice. Generally, dostinex or bromo are the products of choice.

What are your stats? years training? goals? past cycles? giving you advice without knowing that it just guessing.

 

[shape]

Tren doesn't cause estrogen sides, so 'anti-Es' are not your term of choice. Generally, dostinex or bromo are the products of choice.

What are your stats? years training? goals? past cycles? giving you advice without knowing that it just guessing.

5'7" 35

217
bf approx 13

goal is to get to 7-8%

training for 18 years

done mild test e/var cycles with GH t3

thinking about tren a 75mgs for 8 weeks with var at 50mgs ed for 6 weeks
along with clen/t3 and eca in between

diet is in check
cardio 6 days 1 hour on tread first thing in morn on empty stomach

 

[Mr.X]

5'7" 35

217
bf approx 13

goal is to get to 7-8%

training for 18 years

done mild test e/var cycles with GH t3

thinking about tren a 75mgs for 8 weeks with var at 50mgs ed for 6 weeks
along with clen/t3 and eca in between

diet is in check
cardio 6 days 1 hour on tread first thing in morn on empty stomach

So why tren all of a sudden? You can just stick to test at higher dosages. I think you'd do well with a straight test cycle.

 

[Goldprospector]

So why tren all of a sudden? You can just stick to test at higher dosages. I think you'd do well with a straight test cycle.

Agreed, I like Test alone, although I think tren has it's place.
If you are doing 1 hour of cardio 6 out 7 days on a empty stomach first thing in the am, then you should shed fad like crazy especially since you said that your diet is in check.

But to answer your question, I personally would never do Tren alone.

 

[Ozz2001]

Trens a good choice because you want have to eat a ton to gain on it. Id do at least 10 week and enjoy looking like a freak..If you can get tren-e id run that instead..400 is a good number a week...

 

[shape]

So why tren all of a sudden? You can just stick to test at higher dosages. I think you'd do well with a straight test cycle.

im am not looking for any additional size--im looking to lean out and hardening up--you would still suggest test over tren?

 

[cboogsrun]

5'7" 35

217
bf approx 13

goal is to get to 7-8%

training for 18 years

done mild test e/var cycles with GH t3

thinking about tren a 75mgs for 8 weeks with var at 50mgs ed for 6 weeks
along with clen/t3 and eca in between

diet is in check
cardio 6 days 1 hour on tread first thing in morn on empty stomach

Its great for strength also. I think with test you'd be better off in the mass department. however math doesn't lie, if you eat big you should get big. There are just better aas for your goal.

BOOGS

 

[steelmass]

I loooooove tren, but not alone. Run Tren Ace/Prop or Tren E/Test E. My roommate just did a 75mg ED Prop and 50mg ED Tren for 7 weeks and TRANSFORMED. (this was like his 3rd cycle though).

 

[shape]

I loooooove tren, but not alone. Run Tren Ace/Prop or Tren E/Test E. My roommate just did a 75mg ED Prop and 50mg ED Tren for 7 weeks and TRANSFORMED. (this was like his 3rd cycle though).

again guys not looking for mass--just to lean out maintain size while in a caloric deficit state--some vascularity would be nice as well

are we still saying tren with test e?????

 

[Inhibitor13]

Ive never tried tren (yet) but I heard its good to use if you wanna gain size while your shreddin bf .....So, IMO run the tren w/ test e.

 

[steelmass]

again guys not looking for mass--just to lean out maintain size while in a caloric deficit state--some vascularity would be nice as well

are we still saying tren with test e?????

Yes tren with test E, when I say transformed I mean he went from 230 14% to 232 7%. Legit 7% too, he was amazingly disciplined with his diet. That means he gained muscle while he shedded fat. Looks amazing. Anyways, If you run Tren E then Test E. If Tren A, then Prop. Everyone around here will tell you to run test with it if you want to run tren.

I imagine you want to stay the same weight and just lower your bodyfat? Thats what cutting should be...

Oh ya and throw in Adex, depending on how much Test you run.

 

[shape]

Yes tren with test E, when I say transformed I mean he went from 230 14% to 232 7%. Legit 7% too, he was amazingly disciplined with his diet. That means he gained muscle while he shedded fat. Looks amazing. Anyways, If you run Tren E then Test E. If Tren A, then Prop. Everyone around here will tell you to run test with it if you want to run tren.

ok bro test/prop it is

what should be taken with it-----clen/t3. eca--any dostinex/bromo--adex for the prop or ????????

 

[steelmass]

You could definitely cycle 2 weeks clen, 2 weeks eca throughout. NO BROMO! If you have the money definitely dostinex. And .5mg Adex depending on your dosage of prop.

I wouldn't mess with t3...

 

[shape]

You could definitely cycle 2 weeks clen, 2 weeks eca throughout. NO BROMO! If you have the money definitely dostinex. And .5mg Adex depending on your dosage of prop.

I wouldn't mess with t3...

how would this cycle be on BP levels, lipids and liver values

 

[shape]

i am going to presume the tren and prop can be done in one daily shot correct?

 

[steelmass]

Yes, one daily shot. BP could be a problem, lipids and liver values will be fine. Neither are liver toxic, but tren is hard on your kidneys. Drink 1-2 gallons water a day as well as cranberry extract. Also, Saw Palmetto helps prostate problems and hair issues. For BP lower sodium intake, but you should be okay BP wise.

 

[shape]

Yes, one daily shot. BP could be a problem, lipids and liver values will be fine. Neither are liver toxic, but tren is hard on your kidneys. Drink 1-2 gallons water a day as well as cranberry extract. Also, Saw Palmetto helps prostate problems and hair issues. For BP lower sodium intake, but you should be okay BP wise.

will proscar help with the hair issue

 

[steelmass]

will proscar help with the hair issue

For sure, just run enough prop to combat tren and finasteride(proscar) libido issues.

 

[anal itch]

im am not looking for any additional size--im looking to lean out and hardening up--you would still suggest test over tren?

Then Tren is a good choice ALONG with some Test. Start with Tren Ace and some Test Prop to see if you can handle the sides. I personally don't get any bad sides at 100mg Tren Ace ED along with 150mg Prop ED. But that's me.

If the sides are tolerable, switch over to Tren E and Test E if you are having a hard time with the ED jabs. I'm gonna run Tren E next time now that I know how I handle Tren Ace.