Is PCT what I need...

[rutdipper]

Hey guys, this is probly gonna be the dumbest question you read today, but I'm new to this and am here for advice so bear with me! Lol

I race motocross competitively and the last year and a half have had a couple bad injuries that required multiple surgeries. So I friend of mine suggested I try dbols to help maintain my strength and muscle while I'm recovering...and to help build back up what I did loose faster during therapy. So I did that and have been taking super low doses on and off for the last year and a half and it worked great on helping me maintain and recover. So recenltly the last month I figured it was time to stop taking it as I'm trying to get back into race shape and I'm experiencing some vicious arm pump from the dbol while riding. But now that ive stopped taking it I've noticed I'm way down on energy, I always seem tired and kinda unmotivated and have a super hard time recovering after workouts/motos.

I've never run a pct and honestly don't kno much about them, Is nolvadex 20mg any good?....with the systems I'm having what do you guys recommend? And if I was to take nolvadex...how much should I take and for how long.

Any help is appriciated!

Thanks

 

[JoeBrooklyn1969]

This is not a stupid question but you shouldve done research before you took the dbol. You said you took low doses but what does that mean? How low? A year is a hell of a long time to do a cycle, usually people do from 8 -15 weeks and then do pct for 2-4 weeks, sometimes more. The first thing you need to do is blood work. How old are you? If you are between 20 and 26, youre Test levels should be between 800-700, if you are 40-50 they should be about 400-500. If you are below these. Umbers you should to a pct but keep in mind also that some people, even when they are young have low T, so the numbers i gave you were averages. I dont know what your levels were before you started. As for novlex. I have never used it and have heard not so good things about it. I prefer clomid. Also, you need more than just that. You will also need some Pregnyl, Unleashed, Forged Post Cycle and Forma Stanza. But keep in mind usually your body recovers on its own. How long it takes depends on type of steroid, dosage, length of time on and the individual.

 

[rutdipper]

Thanks for the response, much appreciated!

I'm 22yrs old, I'm not sure what my test levels were either before. And yeah I know a year is wayyy to long. Is my symptoms pretty typical sounding for my circumstances?

And my dosage was about 10mg's of dbol about 3 days a week

 

[JoeBrooklyn1969]

Thanks for the response, much appreciated!

I'm 22yrs old, I'm not sure what my test levels were either before. And yeah I know a year is wayyy to long. Is my symptoms pretty typical sounding for my circumstances?

And my dosage was about 10mg's of dbol about 3 days a week

10mg is low; but what you tought your body to do is to not produce any testosterone.Also, 3 days a weeks makes it 30mg per week which is not all that "super low". Luckily, since you are young you should be able to recover. As for your test levels before, this may sound stupid but I gauge my test levels in between blood work by how much I jerk off. So If I actually skip a day, my levels are low and low meaning below 500. I am 42 and my levels are normally 502.

 

[liffalot]

Thanks for the response, much appreciated!

I'm 22yrs old, I'm not sure what my test levels were either before. And yeah I know a year is wayyy to long. Is my symptoms pretty typical sounding for my circumstances?

And my dosage was about 10mg's of dbol about 3 days a week

Yes, when you have been supplying your body with artificial forms of androgen, it has no reason to make its own and it will shut down its natural production.

Especially with how long you ran it, even at that low dose, you probably have seriously decreased HPTA function and you absolutely need a good PCT to get your body back to normal.

You can search around on here and decide for yourself, but I would recommend;

Unleashed or HCGenerate
OSTA SARMS (also known as MK-2866) at a low dose
Forged Post Cycle

You may also need some Bridge because you probably have water retention as well and will lose a lot of your strength and size. Unleashed and HCGenerate are both natural testosterone boosters; one can be found at Orbit Nutrition and the other at NeedtoBuildMuscle. SARMS is a compoound that binds to your androgen receptors and makes them highly receptive. In low doses, this can be a perfect PCT component. Get your SARMS from SarmsSearch - there is nothing else even comparable on the market. Forged Post cycle is a compound meant for your case, can be found at Mr. Supps.

I know your buddy was trying to do you a favor, but he did you dirty. You've got to do your own research man

 

[rutdipper]

Thank you guys for all your help and advice! Means a lot.

 

[liffalot]

Thank you guys for all your help and advice! Means a lot.

Anytime, glad you came and asked. Last thing we want is for people to be hurting themselves.