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guys is it true that deca can help regenerate tendons and cartillage in joints that hurt
is it True..DEca is a cure!
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MadCow1
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I used it after shoulder dislocation years ago. Shoulder was falling in and out of socket for over 5 weeks - maybe 50% usage at best. Began Deca at 200mg weekly over a period of 5 weeks. Shoulder was around 90% after week 2 and 95% after week 5. It is 100% today - if anything my other shoulder bothers me more.
I don't know if its mechanism of action has ever been proven but it sure seems to help more than the others regardless of water retention.
I don't know if its mechanism of action has ever been proven but it sure seems to help more than the others regardless of water retention.
solidspine
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The answer is NO>
It will help with recovery and it will help minimize pain an inflammation in joints. It will do nothing to a tendon or a ligament.
Think of a ligament as a piece of rope, it does not stretch and does not have memory, if torn it needs to be repaired as in sutured. Ditto for tendons which are similar in tissue but connected to the bone.
Deca will increase the volume of synovial fluid in a joint and subsequently ease pain, movement and yes augment minor cartilage repair. But a major tear in your cartilage will need time or surgery to repair. No short cuts.
With all that tripe said, I use deca a lot for my shoulders and shoulder pain.
It will help with recovery and it will help minimize pain an inflammation in joints. It will do nothing to a tendon or a ligament.
Think of a ligament as a piece of rope, it does not stretch and does not have memory, if torn it needs to be repaired as in sutured. Ditto for tendons which are similar in tissue but connected to the bone.
Deca will increase the volume of synovial fluid in a joint and subsequently ease pain, movement and yes augment minor cartilage repair. But a major tear in your cartilage will need time or surgery to repair. No short cuts.
With all that tripe said, I use deca a lot for my shoulders and shoulder pain.
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HappyScrappy
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as far as I know, GH is the only one that helps heal tendons and ligaments and recude scarring and improve your skin.
I only know this from what I've read - I haven't ever done a cycle of it myself, even though I'd like to.
if you want muscle growth from it, use it with insulin. if you want it more for fat loss, do it by itself.
I only know this from what I've read - I haven't ever done a cycle of it myself, even though I'd like to.
if you want muscle growth from it, use it with insulin. if you want it more for fat loss, do it by itself.
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HappyScrappy
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not intentionally.
it just popped into my head one day.
once something more offensive pops in, it will be replaced.
it just popped into my head one day.
once something more offensive pops in, it will be replaced.
patkob2001
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well some guys tell me they take for joint pain only .........how much would you recommend a week as a minimum I have acces to those 30ml TTokkyo bottles
for 120$ US
for 120$ US
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HappyScrappy
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I personally have done a sust deca cycle and towards the end my shoulders were killing me during any workout that involved moving my arms (including just holding the phone up to my ear).
I was doing 400mg of deca/wk.
I've heard of people doing 200 per week with other stuff and getting results.
the ttokkyo stuff is 300mg/ml if I recall correctly, so you could do 300mg/wk pretty easily.
from my own experience and also what I've read and seen other people post, you will get better overall results from deca if you mix it with something else, ideally some for of test.
I was doing 400mg of deca/wk.
I've heard of people doing 200 per week with other stuff and getting results.
the ttokkyo stuff is 300mg/ml if I recall correctly, so you could do 300mg/wk pretty easily.
from my own experience and also what I've read and seen other people post, you will get better overall results from deca if you mix it with something else, ideally some for of test.
patkob2001
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I know Im now on sustanon (500mg a week )In week 5
and my shoulders hurt like hell it is painful that after 10 minutes in a workout I must quit.....I started the winny last week too (50Mg a day) This really sucks cause this week I trained 2 for 10 minutes each due to the pain(and 1 leg workout)Now should I quit the cycle or finish it (it was suppose to be 3 more weeks of sustanon +5 more of winny)is theyre a remedy or is it just rest......Ive had this burning sensation for more than a year (Never juiced before)I rememeber it starting to burn after my first natural comp(I was the only natural)My stupid coach made me overtrain like a machine my delts were burning all the time but he said to go trhough the pain....anyway I lost alot of endurance a willingess ....I use to use 130,140 Db is each hand for seated DB presses at 6-8 reps now because of the gay gym I go to they stop at 100 so Im force to use the smith machine or barbells that I hate Ive found that my shoulders hurt alot more since then....for chest and delts lifts........Im thinking of changing gyms cause the pain is unbareabale
and my shoulders hurt like hell it is painful that after 10 minutes in a workout I must quit.....I started the winny last week too (50Mg a day) This really sucks cause this week I trained 2 for 10 minutes each due to the pain(and 1 leg workout)Now should I quit the cycle or finish it (it was suppose to be 3 more weeks of sustanon +5 more of winny)is theyre a remedy or is it just rest......Ive had this burning sensation for more than a year (Never juiced before)I rememeber it starting to burn after my first natural comp(I was the only natural)My stupid coach made me overtrain like a machine my delts were burning all the time but he said to go trhough the pain....anyway I lost alot of endurance a willingess ....I use to use 130,140 Db is each hand for seated DB presses at 6-8 reps now because of the gay gym I go to they stop at 100 so Im force to use the smith machine or barbells that I hate Ive found that my shoulders hurt alot more since then....for chest and delts lifts........Im thinking of changing gyms cause the pain is unbareabale
ultragainz
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some people add deca in every cycle cause of there pains....like every 2 weeks in the cycle if not everyweek..200mgs if good
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HappyScrappy
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sorry man - I don't know how to stop the shoulder pains, mine were in the last week that I was due to cycle anyway, so I just gritted through it.
while I was lifting it hurt a lot, but it was between lifts that it hurt the most. it would then go away wihtin an hour or two.
I wish I could tell you a solution, I don't know one.
I did an eq and test cyp cycle and never had the same problem.
also doing anavar and not having that either.
while I was lifting it hurt a lot, but it was between lifts that it hurt the most. it would then go away wihtin an hour or two.
I wish I could tell you a solution, I don't know one.
I did an eq and test cyp cycle and never had the same problem.
also doing anavar and not having that either.
patkob2001
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Bump I wanna see what the vet /mod hace to say
ItalMonster
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What if you were to do about 2-3iu gh a day directly into the shoulder, almost like a coritsone shot? Do you think that would possibly cause the tendons and ligaments to repair themselves?
badgermilk
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I am going to do 500mg/week of Deca along with 400mg/week of either dynabolan or primo, the deca and dyno because of the water retention in the joints.
QUESTION:
This is a thought that crossed my mind....... the deca and dyno are both known to relieve pain in joints because of water retention! if I take Liquidex as an anti-estrogen which also reduces's water retention would I be correct to say that the relief of shoulder pain may not be as significant because of the Liquidex....??
Bump....
I am going to do 500mg/week of Deca along with 400mg/week of either dynabolan or primo, the deca and dyno because of the water retention in the joints.
QUESTION:
This is a thought that crossed my mind....... the deca and dyno are both known to relieve pain in joints because of water retention! if I take Liquidex as an anti-estrogen which also reduces's water retention would I be correct to say that the relief of shoulder pain may not be as significant because of the Liquidex....??
Bump....
patkob2001
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Good point bump..........and another question any guys ever experience burning in shoulders so painful that u cant workout ,,,,,,,,,,,and what did you do!
patkob2001
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I am bumping for the Big tuff guys who like it the ass
patkob2001
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No one has experience in the latter Ok then
badgermilk
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I'd still like to here some more on the question I asked above....anyone else?
Bump..... for more insight....
Bump..... for more insight....
badgermilk
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Bump...
solidspine said:The answer is NO>
It will help with recovery and it will help minimize pain an inflammation in joints. It will do nothing to a tendon or a ligament.
Think of a ligament as a piece of rope, it does not stretch and does not have memory, if torn it needs to be repaired as in sutured. Ditto for tendons which are similar in tissue but connected to the bone.
Deca will increase the volume of synovial fluid in a joint and subsequently ease pain, movement and yes augment minor cartilage repair. But a major tear in your cartilage will need time or surgery to repair. No short cuts.
With all that tripe said, I use deca a lot for my shoulders and shoulder pain.
I agree with solidspine. Deca may relieve pain as most AS do. Most AS have a tendency to "mask" the injury. You may feel the pain before you start the cycle, but during the cycle the pain will seem to have gone away. After the cycle is over, the pain will come back... Unless, it was a minor injury that was able to heal on it's own during the cycle. AS will also give more strength to the muscles surrounding the damaged tissue, relieving it of most of its duties, which can relieve the pain.
