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I do research just like everyone else and dont just browse elitefitness, even though this is my primary site for steroid related information (and the one i trust the most). But given the accusations of peddling supplements, plus the fact that the more diverse knowledge you have the better, I do browse other steroid forums.

What interests me is that seems to be the only forum that absolutely trashes oral steroids and prohormones. They call you an idiot for running such a cycle, how you will not be happy with the results, harm your body, and will go back to the way you looked before the cycle and potentially worse. Every oral thread I read had 10 guys saying "test should be the base of all cycles", and while I agree test is an amazing compound, for some people it just doesn't fit with their life. (for example, someone may not be able to risk sides such as roid rage, acne, gyno, hair loss etc).

Now I've done a 2 oral cycles, and definitely made gains and KEPT them, because I had proper on cycle support as well as PCT, and in pct i made a mental note to lift as heavy as i did while I was on. While this forum doesn't advocate oral only cycles, you guys do accept the fact that people will do it regardless and still help them get the most out of the cycle, which i admire.

So what's wrong with these guys? Do they actually have a point or are these just juicers that have the mentality that "either i gain 20 pounds of muscle or a cycle is a complete waste"? I just don't understand...
 
It's a matter of preference. I did my first cycle as an all oral with Anavar and Proviron and I loved it. I personally believe that running that cycle was a perfect introduction to the world of AAS for me and that as a result of having run it I was far better prepared for the injectible cycle I'm running now.
 
I do research just like everyone else and dont just browse elitefitness, even though this is my primary site for steroid related information (and the one i trust the most). But given the accusations of peddling supplements, plus the fact that the more diverse knowledge you have the better, I do browse other steroid forums.

What interests me is that seems to be the only forum that absolutely trashes oral steroids and prohormones. They call you an idiot for running such a cycle, how you will not be happy with the results, harm your body, and will go back to the way you looked before the cycle and potentially worse. Every oral thread I read had 10 guys saying "test should be the base of all cycles", and while I agree test is an amazing compound, for some people it just doesn't fit with their life. (for example, someone may not be able to risk sides such as roid rage, acne, gyno, hair loss etc).

Now I've done a 2 oral cycles, and definitely made gains and KEPT them, because I had proper on cycle support as well as PCT, and in pct i made a mental note to lift as heavy as i did while I was on. While this forum doesn't advocate oral only cycles, you guys do accept the fact that people will do it regardless and still help them get the most out of the cycle, which i admire.

So what's wrong with these guys? Do they actually have a point or are these just juicers that have the mentality that "either i gain 20 pounds of muscle or a cycle is a complete waste"? I just don't understand...

Most of these guys dont understand that most of the so called 'pro Hormones' were/are designer oral steroids. Some VERY effective.
 
Most of these guys dont understand that most of the so called 'pro Hormones' were/are designer oral steroids. Some VERY effective.

it is assinine that they think designer steroids are on par with true pro hormones like andro. andro is a joke, not even in the same league. only reason it got banned was cause Mark McGwire used it.

they are confused because designers are sold as 'pro hormones' ... no different than how a tomato is sold as a veggie in stores but is really a fruit
 
it all depends on your goals bro... you can make gains with an oral only cycle... will test enhance it? of course it will but it depends on what your after... i think many of us have proven the amount of gains that are out there... a lot of these other guys are fucking meatheads... they train one way, don't mix things up and don't see the types of gains they could, or they have no fucking clue how to eat... a lot of the knowledge here is from guys that have a little bit more intellect, study, etc... there's quite a difference when it comes to study and through trial and error... there's is more in depth thought and knowledge here bro...
 
A lot of the guys you're describing hardly know anything about anabolics at all. Most are trying to get ahead and build a reputation for themselves, whatever their motivation for that may be. They do this by repeating information posted around said forum to look cool and knowledgeable. Just look at the nolva/clomid pct that gets pushed constantly on those boards. When i was over at AM, thats exactly how it worked which is why I'm not there anymore
 
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