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I'm around, Iron Game.....what did you need?
 
It comes in a box twice the size of a Ttokkyo Labs eq box with the vial and the disolvent.

72 iu's in the vial, clear bottle, silver cap, writing on a clear label placed sideways on the vial. (23,94mgs)

now I have seen similar pictures but none identical. Is it possible that from country to country packaging varies slightly.

Thanks for the link :)
 
Game, that's very possible.......Serono products are packaged differently from country to country, as are geno. Let me look around a little....I'll get back to you. My pro friend I mentioned in the other GH post on this page knows everything about GH. I always encourage him to reply, but he is discrete....or paranoid. I know you are there, man - help us out here.
 
Thanks Sir, he was kind enough to e-mail me, the problem is if this stuff is fake I am sending it back, I trust the person I got it from very well but have only seen similar but not identical pics. I dont wish to do the preg test cause that will involve opening it up.

arghhhhhhh if only I had a scanner

been looking on humatrope.com couldnt find any info, checked a few other sites but nothing

Thanks for your help
 
Thanks M.O.D. very similar to the first pic but is 72ius in one vial and disolvent seperate in an amp similar to the old Zambons but twice the size. Also slight variation on the actual vial but think this may be to do with different country. Hopefully :confused:
 
Scams/Counterfeits/Stings

Fakes: (junk/useless)

Thailand, pink, pentagon shaped, D-bol 5mg tabs, there have been a lot of reports that these are coming from the original manufacture in Thailand, but this is not true. These fakes are being manufactured in Holland. The one way to tell the difference between the real and fake, is taste (as the real one’s have a more bitter taste to them) or lab testing.

Russian Dianabol, the blister packs have poor quality print (all Russian) and it has "Methanadrolone" and "000.5r") printed on it. The two colors used for the print are black and blue. The directions that come with the tablets are printed on greenish colored paper.

Russian Sustanon "CYCTAHOH 250", the 1cc amp is clear with a bright white scoring mark around the neck, and the label on the amp has rounded corners, Lot#252179, Manufacture Date: Mai ‘95, Expiration Date: Mai ‘99.

Organon (Greece), Deca-Durabolin, Lot#931104-012, Exp. 991128, 100mg/ml, 2ml/vial, 3 vials per box.

Organon, Deca-Durabolin, Lot#292698A, 200mg/ml, 2ml/vial, vial is brownish in color with blue cap.

Pronabol-5, manufactured in India, the fake product comes in plain (no thrills) foil strip on 10 tabs (per strip) that says Pronabol 5, while the real version comes in a (vacuum pack) foil strip with purple writing on it, the tabs are marked "P-5"

I’ve received word, that there seems to be some counterfeit Extraboline (Deca) from Greece going around. It looks identical to the real stuff (same box, labels), but many people think it is fake or under dosed. Also, there is some counterfeit Parabolan going around. Most people think it contains some type of testosterone.

List of More Known Fakes:

Please bear in mind that the manufacturers mentioned below are usually not the actual manufacturers of the counterfeits, but rather the name used on the label. The REAL pharmaceutical companies want nothing better than to shut down the pirates.

Abolic Injection: Manufactured by Hallmark Comes in a 30cc amp. with a black and white label.

Alexin Injection: Manufacturer unknown. Comes in a 10cc amp.

Anavar: Manufactured by Searle Pharmaceuticals Japan has been discontinued. Counterfeit Anavar has been circulating in a 10cm (4in.) Searle labeled, opaque white plastic bottle containing 100 tabs. The tablets are white, scored, and are oval.

Anavar Injection: sold in a 30cc ampoule with a black and white label.

Androbolin: Manufacturer unknown. Large 10 ml. amp. with a black and white label.

Avirol Tablets: Manufactured by Dr Blues.

Bolasterone: Any manufacturer.

Boldenon Undecylenate: Manufactured by Intervet Labs Australia comes in a 10cc amp. No label.

DMU: Any manufacturer.

Dianabol Injection: Manufactured by Ciba-Geigy Panama. Comes in a 10cc-tinted amp. Dianabol by Ceba-Geigy has the company name misspelled.

Russian Dianabol* Blister packs have poor quality print (in Russian) and it has "Methanadrolone" and "000.5r" printed on it. The colors used for this print are black and blue. The directions that come with the tablets are printed on a green like colored paper.

Thai Dianabol* A lot of the Thai D-bol that is being sold is reported being fake. It seems to be coming from the European sources.

Deca Durabolin* From Organon Co. (Greece) Lot#931104-012 Exp. 991128 100mg/ml, 2ml/vial, 3 vials per box

Deca Durabolin* From Organon Co. Lot#292698A 200mg/ml, 2ml vial. The vial is brownish in color with a blue cap.

Depo-Testosterone: Manufactured by Upjohn. Comes in a 10cc amp. White labels with black, gray and red print. Can be identified by the fact that it doesn’t have a flip-top and the lot number and date are printed on. The real Upjohn product has a flip-top and the lot number and date are stamped on.

Equipose Injection: Manufactured by Squibb Canada. Comes in a 50cc amp. White label with black and orange print or a white label with black, gold, and red print. Expiry date and lot number is the same.

Femedrole: Manufactured by Crown. Comes in a 10cc amp.

Finajet 30: Manufactured by Distrivet Paris. Comes in a 50cc-tinted amp with metal cap.

White label with black and purple print.

Grocormon: Any manufacturer. Comes in a 10cc amp. Marketed as a growth hormone.

Genobol: Any manufacturer. Comes in a 10cc amp.

HCG: Manufactured by Organon England. Comes in a 10cc amp.

Humatrope: Manufactured by Lilly Canada.5mg. Marketed as a growth hormone.

Hexalon: Manufacturer unknown. Comes in a 30cc amp with a black and white label.

Halotestin: Manufactured by Upjohn Paris. Foil-sealed tablets come in a white box with blue print.

Methandrostenolone: Manufactured by Lacroix Monaco. White label with black and green print.

Nandrolone Decanoate Manufactured by LyphoMed. Comes in a tinted 2cc amp. White label with black, red, and green print. Lot number and date are printed on rather than stamped on. Another version (same mfg.) comes in a 2cc-tinted amp with a green flip top. It has a white label with black, orange and red print.

Nandrolone Decanoate Manufactured by Rugby. Comes in a 2cc amp. White label with brown and orange print. Lot number and date are printed on rather than stamped on.

Nandrolone Decanoate Manufactured by Organon. Comes in a 2cc-tinted amp with white silk-screened lettering and a dark green flip top. Also comes in a 5cc-tinted amp with white silk-screened lettering and an aluminum flip top. Lot number and date are printed on rather than stamped on.

Nandrolone Decanoate Injection Manufactured by Steris. Comes in a 2cc amp. with plastic flip top. White label with black print. Lot number and date are printed on rather than stamped on. The label is not varnished on as with the original product.

Oxandrolone: Manufactured by Lacroix Monaco. White label with black and green print.

Oxandrolone Injection: Manufactured by Crown. Comes in a 2cc-tinted amp with a green label.

Oxymetholone Injection: Manufactured by Crown. Comes in a 2cc-tinted amp with a green label.

Pesomax: Any manufacturer.

Pronabol-5* India, the fakes come in a plain foil strip on 10 tabs. The real version comes in a vacuum packed foil strip with purple writing on it. The tabs are marked "P-5"

Sustanon* Russian Sustanon "CYCTAHOH 250" The 1cc amp is clear with a bright scoring mark around the neck. The label on the amp has rounded corners. Lot#252179, Manufacture Date: May '95 Exp. Date: May 99.

Synasteron 50* I have had a lot of reports from people who have bought the Synasteron (Oxymetholone) from European sources have reported very little gains if any at all. There was a 25mg dose of Synasteron floating around for a while too. I believe that both of the Synasteron were grossly under dosed and now, most cannot tell the difference between the 25mg and the 50mg pills. The main attraction to Synasteron is the price. I have seen it sell for as little as $60.00 for 100 each 50mg tabs!

Source of the above: Vae Victus Newsletter with our gratitude for their humanitarian efforts!!!

Counterfeits: (copies/good products)

Here are some of the counterfeits floating around; good news is that they actually contain what they are supposing to. They all look legit, except the labels peel off too easily (on the Steris Products). I’ll record lot/date, as they become available.

Negma (France), Parabolan, Exp. 08/96

Steris Labs (USA), Testosterone Enanthate 200mg/ml 10cc vial

Steris Labs (USA), Testosterone Cypionate 200mg/ml 10cc vial

Steris Labs (USA), Testosterone Propionate 100mg/ml 10cc vial

Steris Labs (USA), Testosterone Suspension 100mg/ml 30cc vial

Steris Labs (USA), HCG

Primobolan (Spanish), 100mg/ml, actually contains approx. 50mg Nandrolone Phenlypropionate, the blue spot is smaller, the scoring mark is more visible, and it comes with a different style plastic tray, than the real version.
 
check this shit out:
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;THE PRO CYCLES

Now as you all know there are legal ramifications of admitting to steroid possession, and any inference that you use steroids also shows a criminal offence, and this guy breaks more than his fair share of laws, so in respect to that please don’t try and make threads on who it is as this will just cause troubles that none of us want (a lot of you break a number of felonies per day).

This guy is BIG and he is famous among you all, he has competed at a pro level and has won many shows and placed highly in the Olympic many times.

I met him a year ago and we have kept in touch since and through him I have learnt a number of things, kind of like why things work to build muscles in a practical sense, most of this (actually fuck, all of it) has to do with drugs and when I asked him if I could do this piece he was willing to help out as he says his time is limited and he would like to help others when he could.

`Below is a list of what drugs he uses and why he uses them split in to precontest or off season

PRE-CONTEST:

10-7 WEEKS OUT

250 mg sustanon per day

250 mg testopan (enanthate) per day

1000 Deca Durabolin

Humatrope Growth Hormone, 6 units per, 6 times a day!! (Five times a week)

Long-Acting Insulin 100 units in the morning

Fast Acting insulin 25 units per meal (he is now to scared to eat without insulin)

Oxymethelone (whatever type he can get) 5x50mg tabs

300 mcg T3 per day

200-mcg clen (taken five days on 2 days off)

Nubain 5 ml a day, 3 times a week (supposedly to reduce the addictiveness)

Glucophage, taken before workouts, 4,000mg

He does do IGF-1 but he limits it to 4 week cycles as he believes that most of the research on this shows limited length of time of effectiveness. He will then follow this up with a 4-week break

80 mg fluxoetine (prozac) to help with the chemical imbalances and to assist him to keep stress from the drugs down

180 mg Ephedrine Hydrochloride, before workouts

2-6 WEEKS OUT:

4,000 mg Testosterone Propionate

2 vials of Masteron

2 vials of Parabolan

10 tabs of halotestin per day, before training

DNP for a week in weeks 6,4 and 2

Clenbuterol on alternating weeks at 400mcg per day

T3 400mcg per day

Nubain as above

Insulin as above

Growth Hormone 6 units 6 times per day

IGF-1 for the four weeks to week 2 at 100 mcg per day.

100mg of fluxoetine (prozac)

Ephedrine as above

I estimate the mg’s at somewhere around 6,500 to 7,000 mgs a week

WEEKS 2 AND FIRST HALF OF WEEK 1:

Same as above except the Nubain is dropped, as it is unnecessary, as well as the IGF-1 is dropped.

Also one extra ampoule of Parabolan and Masteron per day.

LAST THREE DAYS:

Uses neoton 500, creatine phosphate (its an injectable I believe) in his carb deplete/load, he was unspecific on dosages

Two days out he uses Lasix (still a favorite) 80 mg four times a day, for two days.

The newest thing out is a plasma expander, by the name of

Groenaut, apparently from Europe, this works much in the same way as Glycerol in that it drams water out from underneath the skin and into the muscle and bloodstream leaving a very dry full look if it is done correctly, of course as with high stakes bodybuilding there is that ever apparent degree of risk, the risk here is mixing a diuretic which dumps the water from the system and a drug that tries to pull the water in, if the effect is too great, the least that could happen is that you don’t fill out and you look flat, dry but flat, the worst well the drug tends to favor skeletal muscle over smooth cardiac muscle, hence you are then in shit street as your heart dehydrates, and cardiac arrest kicks in, (not the same thing as Momo, though).

There are a lot of other drugs that are used such as amphetamines to help blunt the appetite and to give him energy as he gets closer to a show, as his body fat drops down to below 5 percent, he tends to feel very ill and tired, he also uses a lot of immuno stimulating supplements so he doesn’t get sick, of course as he is wired from the amphetamines he has to use xanax, halicon and valium (rotated to reduce reliance on a certain drug supposedly).

On show day the use of insulin before going on stage to get the last bit of fullness and bring out his vascularity, (up close this guy has veins that an octopus would envy. Shooting 10 units I.V before going on but after any pumping up he does

Well I know I could have covered other shit and as You will all probably have questions, ill invite you to post a thread about and ill do the best I can to answer them, and yes he is big and he is one of the biggest and anyone who has ever opened a magazine knows who he his.
 
yeah I just read it over there, some serious abuse these guys do to their bodies but no one but a pro can tell ya what his cycle is like. I would believe similar to that listed above though. Scary
 
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