Introduction

[Bilwil]

Hello,

This is my first post. Been lurking and reading a lot of old posts for a short while now. I used AS about 12 years ago. I had been light most of my life. I weighed 120lbs at 5'10" in my mid 20's. I started to lift and got up to about 150lbs. naturally and then did several cycles under the guidance of a good personal friend and pro bodybuilder. I ended up at 198lbs at 5% BF at my best. I was really happy with this look and would love to be there again) Then marriage and business got the better of me (Not complaining, my wife and kids are everything to me!!!). As the years have gone by I have lost muscle and gained fat. I got up to about 16 - 18% BF and weighed around 190lbs. Now that I turned 38 I realized I needed to make some changes. I started working out again and doing cardio. I have always been able to lose fat easily and within 10 weeks my abs are back and I would guess my BF to be down around 10% now. I have done 1 1/2 clen cycles of 2 weeks each (half way through the second one now). Clen always works great for me. I have also been shooting 1 I.U. of growth a day for the last 3 years and shooting 200mg of test cyp. a week for the same time. I also take T3 every day. This is all based on my blood levels and I am under the care of a great doctor (I work in a high stress position and this lead to my low blood levels.) With this prescription I am never off the medicine. My blood tests all come out normal with these levels.

Now I am thinking about doing a cycle to gain some more lean mass. Should I just bump up my HGH to 3 or 4 IU a day and increase the cyp to 500 mg per week? I also have access to Deca if I want to add it in. Is there anything else I should think about using. My main question is if this will be like a first cycle again since it has been 12 years, or will my current use of cyp mean my system is accustomed to it and I will need to do a heavier cycle to get results.

Any suggestions?

I currently lift 4 days a week and do 3 days of cardio as follows:

Mon: Chest and Tris
Tues: Lats, Bi's, forearms
Wed: 45 min cardio
Thurs: Traps, Delts, and abs.
Fri: Quads, Hams, and calves
Sat: 45 min cardio
Sun: 45 minn cardio

My diet is pretty clean and I target 40 gms protein, 40 grams carbs, and 10 grams of fat per meal. 5 meals per day.

Sorry for the long post, but I wanted to provide as much information as possible since I am asking for your advice on my cycle. Also any input on what I should do PCT will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

Bill

 

[DBBT]

Hello,

This is my first post. Been lurking and reading a lot of old posts for a short while now. I used AS about 12 years ago. I had been light most of my life. I weighed 120lbs at 5'10" in my mid 20's. I started to lift and got up to about 150lbs. naturally and then did several cycles under the guidance of a good personal friend and pro bodybuilder. I ended up at 198lbs at 5% BF at my best. I was really happy with this look and would love to be there again) Then marriage and business got the better of me (Not complaining, my wife and kids are everything to me!!!). As the years have gone by I have lost muscle and gained fat. I got up to about 16 - 18% BF and weighed around 190lbs. Now that I turned 38 I realized I needed to make some changes. I started working out again and doing cardio. I have always been able to lose fat easily and within 10 weeks my abs are back and I would guess my BF to be down around 10% now. I have done 1 1/2 clen cycles of 2 weeks each (half way through the second one now). Clen always works great for me. I have also been shooting 1 I.U. of growth a day for the last 3 years and shooting 200mg of test cyp. a week for the same time. I also take T3 every day. This is all based on my blood levels and I am under the care of a great doctor (I work in a high stress position and this lead to my low blood levels.) With this prescription I am never off the medicine. My blood tests all come out normal with these levels.

Now I am thinking about doing a cycle to gain some more lean mass. Should I just bump up my HGH to 3 or 4 IU a day and increase the cyp to 500 mg per week? I also have access to Deca if I want to add it in. Is there anything else I should think about using. My main question is if this will be like a first cycle again since it has been 12 years, or will my current use of cyp mean my system is accustomed to it and I will need to do a heavier cycle to get results.

Any suggestions?

I currently lift 4 days a week and do 3 days of cardio as follows:

Mon: Chest and Tris
Tues: Lats, Bi's, forearms
Wed: 45 min cardio
Thurs: Traps, Delts, and abs.
Fri: Quads, Hams, and calves
Sat: 45 min cardio
Sun: 45 minn cardio

My diet is pretty clean and I target 40 gms protein, 40 grams carbs, and 10 grams of fat per meal. 5 meals per day.

Sorry for the long post, but I wanted to provide as much information as possible since I am asking for your advice on my cycle. Also any input on what I should do PCT will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

Bill

you've already been on a cycle for 3 years now, non-stop, 200mg is more so a HRT dosage but still you've been ON for a long time. Of course you are going to have to up the dosage if that is what compounds you are going to use. Adding deca would work well. Upping the test to 4-500 and adding the deca at at least 300mg would be minimal advise

 

[sparetire]

if your doc is so good, why don't you ask him for some advice, maybe he can up it for you and monitor your levels..i would do that.

 

[Bilwil]

I will definitely discuss it with him, but his specialty is keeping my blood levels where they are supposed to be according to modern medicine. I figured I would get some input from everyone here to give me something additional to discuss with him. He is very open minded and will give me great advice, but this may be beyond his current understanding and experience.

Thanks!

Bill

 

[solidspine]

Bump your test, add the deca or primo, I think growth is a waste of time and money would drop it before increasing, add liquidex then if you want add some russian d-boll

So

Test E 600mg per week
Deca/Primo 600mg per week
D Bol week 1-6 30mg per day up it to 40 if you can tolerate it

go 10 weeks then

PCT and

back to your current test regime,


Actually since you have been on so long, I would go with primo not deca,


Then 2nd cycle

You could do about the same
test

primo

add

Fina

winny

pct etc.


Sounds like you know what your doing good luck.

 

[mikefear]

besides lats and traps, i dont see any back work in your split.

time to deadlift