Interesting fact about steroids....

[needsize]

A few weeks ago I was sent to a specialist to see about my rotator cuff. We talked about the kind of cycles that I was running, and he asked me if I knew the effect steroids had on connective tissues. I told him what I knew about how when you're on how you strength increases faster than your tendons can keep up with, so injuries are common. He agreed, but had something to add; apparently anabolic steroids interfere with the bodies ability to heal/rebuild connective tissues. So not only do you have to worry about injuries because you get strong so fast, but the steroids will interfere with your body's ability to fix any damage that you do.
Some food for thought....

 

[rjl296]

That sux

 

[dzuljas]

RJ.....who is the girl in your avatar? she is gorgeous!

 

[Citruscide]

Not to mention... continuous use of anabolics (injectibles) have an effect on the joints as well. Many long-time users have problems with knees, shoulders, etc.... some of the problems come from being to heavy for their frame... others come from the anabolics cause...

Watch a big time juicer run... like Bautista from the WWE... granted he is big, but not so big he can't move around... he runs like a girl....

C-ditty

 

[Jacob Creutzfeldt]

A few weeks ago I was sent to a specialist to see about my rotator cuff. We talked about the kind of cycles that I was running, and he asked me if I knew the effect steroids had on connective tissues. I told him what I knew about how when you're on how you strength increases faster than your tendons can keep up with, so injuries are common. He agreed, but had something to add; apparently anabolic steroids interfere with the bodies ability to heal/rebuild connective tissues. So not only do you have to worry about injuries because you get strong so fast, but the steroids will interfere with your body's ability to fix any damage that you do.
Some food for thought....

Are you sure he wasn't talking about corticosteroids?

 

[needsize]

Re: Re: Interesting fact about steroids....

Are you sure he wasn't talking about corticosteroids?

considering we discussed my cycles in detail, I'm pretty sure he wasnt talking about corticle, he also very specifically mentioned "anabolics"

 

[Bulldog_10]

Re: Re: Re: Interesting fact about steroids....

considering we discussed my cycles in detail, I'm pretty sure he wasnt talking about corticle, he also very specifically mentioned "anabolics"

Many people lump all steroids together as one. Just today my sports psych professor said he got skewed numbers on a survey he had given out about drugs and athletics because many people answered yes to taking steroids when all they were doing was taking albuterol or something of that nature.

I haven't seen much information on steroids and CT, but I'll look around.

 

[Bulldog_10]

Here's a few tidbits:

Title: Ultrastructural analysis of ruptured tendon from anabolic steroid users.
Author, Editor, Inventor: Evans-Nick-A {a}; Bowrey-David-J; Newman-Geoffrey-R
Author Address: {a} 4 Torrens Dr., Cardiff CF2 6DW, UK
Source: Injury-. Dec., 1998; 29 (10) 769-773.
Publication Year: 1998
Document Type: Article-
ISSN (International Standard Serial Number): 0020-1383
Language: English
Abstract: Tendon rupture has been linked with anabolic steroid abuse on the basis of a small number of published case reports. Although experimental data from animal models suggest steroids alter the biomechanical properties of tendon, ultrastructural evidence to support this theory is lacking. Indeed, microscopic analysis of human tendon from steroid users has not previously been reported. In this study, specimens of ruptured human tendon from four patients were biopsied during surgical repair. Two of the subjects were anabolic steroid users, and two subjects were used as nonsteroid-user controls. Ruptured tendon from both groups was examined using electron microscopy. No differences in collagen fibril ultrastructure were seen. We conclude that anabolic steroids did not induce ultrastructural collagen changes that might predispose to tendon rupture in humans.

Another one:

Title: THE EFFECT OF ANABOLIC STEROIDS ON THE BIOMECHANICAL AND HISTOLOGICAL PROPERTIES OF RAT TENDON.
Author, Editor, Inventor: MILES-J-W {a}; GRANA-W-A; EGLE-D; MIN-K-W; CHITWOOD-J
Author Address: {a} SUITE 310, 711 STANTON L YOUNG BOULEVARD, OKLAHOMA CITY, OKLA 73104
Source: Journal-of-Bone-and-Joint-Surgery-American-Volume. 1992; 74 (3): 411-422.
Publication Year: 1992
Document Type: Article-
ISSN (International Standard Serial Number): 0021-9355
Language: ENGLISH
Abstract: Twenty-four male rats were divided into four groups, with anabolic steroids and exercise as variables. Biomechanical tests and histological evaluations were performed. The results of the biomechanical tests suggested that anabolic steroids product a stiffer tendon, which fails with less elongation. The energy at the time when the tendon failed, the toe-limit elongation, and the elongation at the time of the first failure were all affected significantly. Changes in the force at failure were not statistically significant. No alterations of structure were noted when the specimens were viewed with light microscopy. Alterations of the sizes of the collagen fibrils were noted on electron microscopy. Anabolic steroids are used commonly by athletes to enhance performance in sports activities in which a premium is placed on strength and power. It appears that anabolic steroids have detrimental effects on the muscle-tendon unit in addition to potentially serious systemic side effects. Therefore, athletes who use anabolic steroids place the muscle-tendon unit in double jeopardy of failure. Muscular strength is increased, but the tendon becomes stiffer and absorbs less energy, so it is more likely to fail during certain activities.


Maybe only when using high doses?:

Title: THE EFFECTS OF ANABOLIC STEROIDS ON COLLAGEN SYNTHESIS IN RAT SKELETAL MUSCLE AND TENDON A PRELIMINARY REPORT.
Author, Editor, Inventor: KARPAKKA-J-A {a}; PESOLA-M-K; TAKALA-T-E-S
Author Address: {a} DEP SPORTS MED, DEACONESS INST OULU, SF-90100 OULU, FINLAND
Source: American-Journal-of-Sports-Medicine. 1992; 20 (3): 262-266.
Publication Year: 1992
Document Type: Article-
ISSN (International Standard Serial Number): 0363-5465
Language: ENGLISH
Abstract: We measured the activities of prolyl 4-hydroxylase and galactosylhydroxylysyl glucosyltransferase (both enzymes of collagen biosynthesis) and the concentration of hydroxyproline in male rat soleus muscle and Achilles tendon during anabolic steroid treatment at 1 and 3 weeks. The rats were treated using a therapeutic dosage or a dosage that was five times the therapeutic level. After 1 week, the activity of prolyl 4-hydroxylase decreased significantly (P < 0.01) in both treated groups in the soleus muscle, but the activity of galactosylhydroxylsyl glucosyltransferase decreased significantly (P < 0.05) only in the group given a therapeutic dose. After 3 weeks, the activities were at the control level. In the Achilles tendon, the activity of prolyl 4-hydroxylase and the hydroxyproline concentration decreased significantly (P < 0.05) in the group given high doses at 3 weeks. Anabolic steroid treatment seems to have at least a transitory effect on collagen biosynthesis in male rat muscle and tendon; in tendon this effect is seen only with high doses.

 

[Bulldog_10]

Here is a little insight on Winny:


One reason, with regards to safety, why I chose to include stanozolol and not a more potent bulk-up agent as the oral component of this cycle, is because of its effects on tendons. It has long been a concern that steroid usage causes tendon damage. Directly it doesn’t of course, but as muscle size increases and strength increases, so does pressure on tendons. And since the tendons do not have a large degree of vascularity they cannot adapt as quickly as the muscle. Repeated strain causes microtraumata, and when enough microtraumata have built up, eventually the tendon will rupture. Stanozolol however, has been found to increase collagen synthesis (16) where testosterone did not. Collagen is a key component in fibrous tissue such as cartilage and tendons, and may therefore offer us the bonus effect of maintaining tendon health or even repairing damage of microtrauma, and keep our cartilage healthy so we can resist the pressure on our joints.


http://www.intense-training.com/forums/showthread.php3?threadid=974

I just read another study saying that abour winny.

 

[needsize]

but on the flip side it seems like winny dries out the joints, my injuries hurt the worst they ever have when I ran winny

 

[AlbinoAssassin]

What about deca and things of that nature? I thought they were helpful with joint pain, or is it just temporary alleviation. Does it work more like a mask or does it actually heal? Hope I don't sound like newbie.