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its not that with juice i have stopped gaining but i was thinking of having insulin during sustanon 250 and anadrol for 8 weeks and after that its ended i will continue to take insulin together with the pct so that my body will not fall in a catabolic state and like loosing 2/3 of the gains .
what do you suggest ?
what do you suggest ?
honestly i suggest staying away from it all together if u r still gaining on juice.
so losing gains during pct has been a problem 4 ya? you are bound to lose water (sometimes alot of water) weight from test, a-bombs, d-bol, etc. no matter what u do. those weren't true gains to begin with.
what has been your pct?
so losing gains during pct has been a problem 4 ya? you are bound to lose water (sometimes alot of water) weight from test, a-bombs, d-bol, etc. no matter what u do. those weren't true gains to begin with.
what has been your pct?
Faizakafez
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I think slin alone will just make you fat.
Slin can be used for the carb loading portion of a deplete and laod, but other than that it has no real anabolic properties IMO, I know others will disagree. Slin does a nice job of lowering cortisol levels, but we can spike our own natty slin for that sake.
If your trying to gain as much size as you can and are not concerned with what type of weight you gain than slin will help keep your muscle belly's nice and full, but you have to be careful with lypogenesis, once you create a new fat cell (which slin is very good at btw) you have it for life.
The leaner you are the better use you can make of slin, but the fatter you are the worse the negative effects like weight gain will be. Fat cells are lined with insulin receptors, and slin loves to fill those cells up.
Slin and gh is different animal...
Slin can be used for the carb loading portion of a deplete and laod, but other than that it has no real anabolic properties IMO, I know others will disagree. Slin does a nice job of lowering cortisol levels, but we can spike our own natty slin for that sake.
If your trying to gain as much size as you can and are not concerned with what type of weight you gain than slin will help keep your muscle belly's nice and full, but you have to be careful with lypogenesis, once you create a new fat cell (which slin is very good at btw) you have it for life.
The leaner you are the better use you can make of slin, but the fatter you are the worse the negative effects like weight gain will be. Fat cells are lined with insulin receptors, and slin loves to fill those cells up.
Slin and gh is different animal...
atom16 said:
dad is a diabetic and i see what that does to people.
u run the risk of screwing up your body's natural insulin production and all it takes is one shot to put yourself in a coma and die. save it for the IFBB pro's.
i would rather see you just stay on gear all the time (hrt) than that. i know this doesnt help your concern about suppression but insulin works best with gear anyways so u would have to run something with it. so in either case u r suppressed. but that is just my humble opinion.
some. it definitely has alot of potential from what i hear. i dont know anyone who has done it. though i c people on here talking about it
i havent done a ton of research on it cuz i just havent been in a position to want to use it.
if u want some input on it. u may want to post up a new thread with IGF in the title.
i havent done a ton of research on it cuz i just havent been in a position to want to use it.
if u want some input on it. u may want to post up a new thread with IGF in the title.
Faizakafez
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8and20 said:i guess they left me to do battle by myself
insulin isnt stupid.. its stupid people who use it ...
Novices shouldn't use it. But not because it's "dangerous". It's only dangerous if someone is so damn stupid they can't figure out the correct dose. Or can't figure out whether to use a 3cc syringe or an Insulin Syringe to measure their Insulin. You get it. Yes, there is a risk that some none-too-sharp will fill up the insulin pin to 100 units, thinking it's 10 - but is that enough proof that insulin is evil to shout "Insulin is dangerous!! It can kill you!!" from the rooftops?
It is well-documented that 5-10 iu insulin alone is not enough to be lifethreatening, even without ingestion of carbohydrates FACT: Although it is difficult to pin down exactly what a lethal dose of insulin is, due to individual insulin sensitivity and other factors such as the type of insulin used, the lethal dose is usually estimated somewhere between 800 and 3,200 iu. 1 Although this range may be more or less applicable to fast-acting insulin, like that used for bodybuilding purposes, I did find one anecdote of a suicide attempt using 1600iu of fast-acting insulin, which failed. I'd hardly consider that scientific data, but can we at least agree that the doses we are talking about are widely considered non-lethal on their own? Still, going without carbs is never recommended, and in fact would be counterproductive. So, in the end, we are talking about non-lethal doses, taken in conjunction with more than adequate carbs. And yet, the "insulin kills" dogma persists...
